THOR gets ANOTHER new date: May 6, 2011

[FaT_tONle]

Me too. Why are Disney & Paramount doing this? They'll already be getting alot from Thor & Cap (hopefully). Maybe if they release Transformers in late June again & push POTC4 (which will bomb without Depp, if he's not in it Disney shouldn't even try) to 2012. That gives Cap & Thor some time to breath.

Disney & Paramount have to think rationally. It'll change again, hopefully it'll be better for us comic fans.

Which is what I am trying to understand as well... but I'll go the other way as well. 2012 may potentially be equally packed if you throw in Avengers, MAYBE Indy 5 in the Memorial Day slot, and probably TDK 2 in July. Pure speculation but it would appear that POTC may have trouble isolating itself in May/July for both those years. If we look back at 2007, that was a year where we also had an SM movie, POTC, TF, and a HP movie so this would not be completely unprecedented. But now you add three more major comic book movies and it looks like a complete waste. I think Marvel would have been better off sticking to that June 17th date. It was obvious that they clearly weren't happy with TIH's BO numbers; hence the move to May, and GL quickly grabbed that date. They probably should have stayed put where they had some breathing room mid June.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I really think they should push Transformers back to 2012. If it fails that's because people are sick of Bay's version of the characters. Maybe they should do it for POTC too.

 

[Webhead2006]

well neither film is actually filming yet, so untill they are rolling on cameras who knows if they will be ready for the scheduled time they have presently.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Yeah and then he was in Seabiscuit and...Spiderman 2 and 3... I cant think of anything else... but he's a major superstar

Wonder Boys, The Ice Storm, The Good German...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

The Cider House Rules.

 

[Octoberist]

I think after Spider-Man 3, Tobey just kinda floated around. Also, he has kids now so that may explain why.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea he does have a daughter if i recall who is very young, so that is why he probably hasnt done alot of stuff since sm3. Heck if i was an actor and just had a kid i rather stay home with the kid for awhile, or work out deal to not be in like 16 hr days of filming and not see my kid at all.

 

[Octoberist]

I really think they should push Transformers back to 2012. If it fails that's because people are sick of Bay's version of the characters. Maybe they should do it for POTC too.

I really think that at least one of these movies will be delayed until Winter 2011 or Summer 2012, be it Transformers 3, Pirates 4, Captain America (who knows), or whatever.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I really think that at least one of these movies will be delayed until Winter 2011 or Summer 2012, be it Transformers 3, Pirates 4, Captain America (who knows), or whatever.

I say POTC4 should. But I don't think that should even go into production if Depp doesn't return. No Depp = Big Bomb.

 

[zeptron]

I agree. POTC4 and TF3 need to wait until 2012. Movies like Cap, Thor, and Green Lantern have never been on the big screen. They had their release dates set first and they all have pushed back once already.

Another reason I would like POTC to get pushed back is that is will probably destroy any chance of Depp being Riddler in Batman 3.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea POTC and TF3 need to **** off.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I agree. POTC4 and TF3 need to wait until 2012. Movies like Cap, Thor, and Green Lantern have never been on the big screen. They had their release dates set first and they all have pushed back once already.

Another reason I would like POTC to get pushed back is that is will probably destroy any chance of Depp being Riddler in Batman 3.

Depp is pretty much on board... even Geoffrey Rush has said he'd likely be back. Disney likes to put there biggest film in May (ala AWE, Narnia, Up, Persia) so I doubt they are thinking Winter. Summer 2012 is a possibility. Would not shock me at all if Marvel/Disney are negotiating with Paramount as we speak to move Thor out of the summer.

 

[Octoberist]

Pirates 4 is also the only one that doesn't have an official release date, so who knows...

 

[Octoberist]

Yea POTC and TF3 need to **** off.

You hear that POTC and TF3? Huh? (Punches wall)

 

[Spider-Vader]

Depp is pretty much on board... even Geoffrey Rush has said he'd likely be back. Disney likes to put there biggest film in May (ala AWE, Narnia, Up, Persia) so I doubt they are thinking Winter. Summer 2012 is a possibility. Would not shock me at all if Marvel/Disney are negotiating with Paramount as we speak to move Thor out of the summer.

LOL, if Disney really thinks Persia will be their biggest film next year, they're fools. TS3 could possibly be the highest grossing animated movie of all-time.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Well, maybe I should have said live action movie. Up was May but that's because the strike did not allow them to release Persia in May 2009.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Persia as in Prince of Persia? With Jake Gyllenhaal? I'm a huge fan of the games and I doubt I'll even bother watching that. It looks terrible so far.

 

[Webhead2006]

i thought alot of folks have said it looks great, and jake is in extremely good shape for the role or the title character. I never played the game series at all but i am curious to see that film when it does hit theaters.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The main reason why the Sands of Time was great was because of the writing. It was charming and witty. The movie just looks like a generic action movie without any of that wit. Plus, I think Gyllenhaal is supremely wrong for the role, regardless of what kind of shape he's in.

 

[TheVileOne]

I agree. POTC4 and TF3 need to wait until 2012. Movies like Cap, Thor, and Green Lantern have never been on the big screen. They had their release dates set first and they all have pushed back once already.

Another reason I would like POTC to get pushed back is that is will probably destroy any chance of Depp being Riddler in Batman 3.

A movie studio doesn't give a ****. Studios would rather bank on proven commodities than newer material. I mean all of its pre-existing IP which is what studios want rather than original ideas, but a studio 10 times out of 10 would rather bank on a sequel to a high grossing franchise than a new movie like Cap, Thor, or Green Lantern.

Paramount and Disney want Transformers 3 and POTC4 because their last movies made almost a billion dollars worldwide.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't believe people aren't bored of those movies yet. I lost interest after one TF movie and two PotC movies.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I've never got into the Pirates films. Sure Jack Sparrow is a great character, but for me, that's about it.

And whilst it is true studios would rather bank on their already established franchises, they still must give their new properties the best chance. I mean, how did Pirates and Transformers get started up in the first place? One is a ****ing ride at DisneyWorld and the other is a bunch of toys from the 80s and 90s.

The studios got behind those franchises when they first started out in the film world. So the studios should get behind the likes of Thor and Cap and GL too. And they will.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Paramount certainly doesn't give a ****. It only HELPS their marketing campaign having TF in that July 4th slot so they can attach a kickass Cap trailer. Now maybe that bodes well for Cap. But certainly if HP8 or even TF have any legs that will hurt Cap (TF will probably fade by then but you never know). But Marvel was already prepared for HP8 and is probably banking on Cap holding it's own through July and most of August as the last major tentpole of that summer. Regardless Paramount still needs a tentpole of their own. 8% commission from two unproven commodoties is nowhere near enough. Now with Thor, I really doubt Paramount is going to compete with Sony/SM4 for market Thor. Just wouldn't make sense. I am sure they will do a servicable job, but don't expect TV spots and posters up the wazoo.

For Disney, POTC makes ZERO sense. They have a Pixar movie and two CB movies. Plus I heard POTC4 is only going to take two months to film? What kind of non-epic bull **** is that? Unless it's 80% motion capture/CGI or something. Plus I doubt Depp is doing another one so why rush it? 2012 sounds good. If they hit with Persia they can have that sequel out by 2013. Then you can have a big CB summer again in 2014. Hell you can have a big CB summer every year for that matter.

 

[Octoberist]

i haven't heard a thing about POTC 4 being filmed for 2 months..

 

[TheVileOne]

Believe it or not, that's pretty much the average time for a lot of these movies for PRINCIPAL PHOTOGRAPHY. 2 months doesn't mean the movie will be finished in 2 months.

The first Iron Man movie for example shot for like 10 weeks for principal.