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[Prison Mike]

What's your job, Bum?

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

What's your job, Bum?

see if you can guess..It is fraught with danger and intrigue, mystery and pizzaz, punches and sandwiches, and sometimes, when it gets really interesting, i have to tell people to take their feet off the seats by way of elaborate con merchantness.

am i...

a. a cinema usher

b. a train conducter

c. a completely out of his mind vigilante who makes money by stealing money off criminals.

 

[Anita18]

Well, what I'm wondering at this very moment is whether or not there are people out there that understand what it's like to be socially handicapped. I'm having one of my bad days today, ones where I just don't feel like going out, but I have to work tonight, disability flare up or not. I just feel like because I'm able to counteract my mental problems with great concentration some people don't view me as afflicted when that's not the case. It just takes more energy for me to act "normal" by the definition of the ignorant public. It's times like these when my energy is low that I wonder of there's anyone out there that is on my side and understands what I'm going through, what's going on in my mind, all the thoughts I have to dis-spell and banish by sheer force of will alone.

Every introvert in the world (and there are actually many of us) all know what you mean.

This is like the fifth time I've had to explain that to you. You are not being antagonized as much as you think, and you are really not all that special for being socially uncomfortable. Approximately one quarter of the entire population is introverted. You are not alone, so stop acting like you are.

If you insist on it, either admit you like playing the martyr/victim, or do something to get comfortable with who you are. Either way, acceptance always leads to self-contentment.

I don't even know why I'm trying anymore, except that it only takes a little bit of effort to type so I figure why not.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Every introvert in the world (and there are actually many of us) all know what you mean.

This is like the fifth time I've had to explain that to you. You are not being antagonized as much as you think, and you are really not all that special for being socially uncomfortable. Approximately one quarter of the entire population is introverted. You are not alone, so stop acting like you are.

If you insist on it, either admit you like playing the martyr/victim, or do something to get comfortable with who you are. Either way, acceptance always leads to self-contentment.

I don't even know why I'm trying anymore, except that it only takes a little bit of effort to type so I figure why not.

She's not 'playing the victim' when there are posters like you who post 'throw up' smilies in regards to her looks.
It sounds like she has some issues with her weight, and you posting things like that do not help.

What has she ever done to you?

 

[Anita18]

She's not 'playing the victim' when there are posters like you who post 'throw up' smilies in regards to her looks.
It sounds like she has some issues with her weight, and you posting things like that do not help.

What has she ever done to you?

edit: I guess you don't have a reply to that since you have been hanging about on the page for almost ten minutes now.
I'm not surprised, because there was really no excuse for that, it's not like she called you something horrible, right?

You didn't like it at all when a poster made some comments to you about your looks.

edit: and now you have the cheek to come in and say her persecution is all in her head, well, she probably does get overly melodramatic about things in her life, but going by the way she is treated around here by people in general, I would hazard a guess that there are people in the real world who insult her.

I haven't been on the page for the last half-hour, but I suppose you care about this way more than I am.

And seriously, that comment spoke more about Willard than it did her.

Here, how's this: I'm imagining Willard's reaction being set up with a woman like me, who's the complete opposite of Jin: I believe that's the complete truth, too.

And here's my issue: I've given her very patient, thoughtful advice every time she comes here with a "everyone is out to get me" story. When it's about introversion, nobody is out to get you. I am an introvert, I know. I even live in friggin LOS ANGELES (not upstate New York where Jin is) where you're weird if you don't party all the time. And guess what? There are people like me here too.

You either want to go out, or you don't. Own it. Insisting that people are out to antagonize you because you aren't Miss Social Butterfly doesn't help your self-acceptance about your own introversion. This is the at least the third time she's posted about it and at some point you've got to believe she LIKES getting this drama if she keeps posting about it here and not listening to any actual advice. Even from you, bum.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I haven't been on the page for the last half-hour, but I suppose you care about this way more than I am.

And seriously, that comment spoke more about Willard than it did her.

Here, how's this: I'm imagining Willard's reaction being set up with a woman like me, who's the complete opposite of Jin: I believe that's the complete truth, too.

Aye, make the comment about yourself, make that 'joke' about yourself, that's fine. But in the context of everyone all laughing at Jinouga's posts, all it looks like is a woman posting a throw up smiley in regards to another woman's appearance. Somehow, I think that would hurt more than a guy making that gag.

I mean, you never thought to make that comment about yourself when Willard was asking to see your photograph did you?
So all it is is a 'lets take the piss out of Jinouga' post, and was in a nasty vein of joke.

edit: I have pissed myself laughing at some of the outlandish stuff she has posted up, but I've never felt like posting up a pisstake post, especially with the pack mentality that arises when she posts one of her soap opera posts. Sure, a bit of light ribbing, a bit of wth are you talking about, but some people just seem to follow her about to take the piss as a way to entertain themselves, and not in a nice way at all.

And here's my issue: I've given her very patient, thoughtful advice every time she comes here with a "everyone is out to get me" story. When it's about introversion, nobody is out to get you. I am an introvert, I know. I even live in friggin LOS ANGELES (not upstate New York where Jin is) where you're weird if you don't party all the time. And guess what? There are people like me here too.

You either want to go out, or you don't. Own it. Insisting that people are out to antagonize you because you aren't Miss Social Butterfly doesn't help your self-acceptance about your own introversion. This is the at least the third time she's posted about it and at some point you've got to believe she LIKES getting this drama if she keeps posting about it here and not listening to any actual advice. Even from you, bum.

I am just a bit fed up with people taking the piss out of her, and ironically, sometimes from people who tell her she could use some psychotherapy.

Sure, she sounds like she could be an introvert, but she also sounds to me like she is a bit body-dysmorphic. I know you don't put much stock in how that can have devastating effects on someone's mental state, but when it gets real bad, a person can experience the symptoms that Jinouga expressed today, that of being apprehensive to go out the house etc.

 

[Anita18]

I am just a bit fed up with people taking the piss out of her, and ironically, sometimes from people who tell her she could use some psychotherapy.

Sure, she sounds like she could be an introvert, but she also sounds to me like she is a bit body-dysmorphic. I know you don't put much stock in how that can have devastating effects on someone's mental state, but when it gets real bad, a person can experience the symptoms that Jinouga expressed today, that of being apprehensive to go out the house etc.

You seem to be focused on her possible body-dysmorphia, but there's really a lot more about her personality that is getting to be worrisome. She's posted about her weight a lot less than the other stuff.

Not that frequency of post subjects means anything in real life, of course, but since she posts so freely on everything else, I would expect that it's less on her list of worries than the other stuff is.

Unless you know her, of course.

Like the stuff about her family, and how people are stalking her. That's some pretty serious stuff, and certainly not as common as body-image issues. Either she has to do something about it, or acknowledge that maybe it's all in her head if she refuses to do something about it. Again, if the stalkers are at her workplace, she could tell her boss and he could do something about it even if the cops can't.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Every introvert in the world (and there are actually many of us) all know what you mean.

This is like the fifth time I've had to explain that to you. You are not being antagonized as much as you think, and you are really not all that special for being socially uncomfortable. Approximately one quarter of the entire population is introverted. You are not alone, so stop acting like you are.

If you insist on it, either admit you like playing the martyr/victim, or do something to get comfortable with who you are. Either way, acceptance always leads to self-contentment.

I don't even know why I'm trying anymore, except that it only takes a little bit of effort to type so I figure why not.

Godzilla sounds depressed to me. I dont think that taking a harsh tone with her is going to help her at all.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

You seem to be focused on her possible body-dysmorphia, but there's really a lot more about her personality that is getting to be worrisome. She's posted about her weight a lot less than the other stuff.

Not that frequency of post subjects means anything in real life, of course, but since she posts so freely on everything else, I would expect that it's less on her list of worries than the other stuff is.

Unless you know her, of course.

Like the stuff about her family, and how people are stalking her. That's some pretty serious stuff, and certainly not as common as body-image issues. Either she has to do something about it, or acknowledge that maybe it's all in her head if she refuses to do something about it. Again, if the stalkers are at her workplace, she could tell her boss and he could do something about it even if the cops can't.

I also think she has problems with paranoia and delusions, so I do not think it's a good idea to go too far with the comments regarding these posts.
She probably does have people in th real world who make nasty comments to her, that I do beleive, but she types up a lot of stuff that is very vague about people being after her, and never explains exactly why or how this is happening, so that makes you think there is not much credence to her suspicions.

There are some posters around here, who I shall not name, who circle in like sharks around someone, if they feel they will have back up, and feel they have an easy target of ridicule.
If she is getting subjected to that all the time, then it will do her no good in this regard.

As I said, a bit of light ribbing, a bit of wth are you talking about this time Jonouga, sure, that kind of thing can maybe even give her some perspective on the reality of her ramblings.
But when folk go too far, and make out that she is nothing but a complete joke, and insult her personally, that will only feed into her paranoia and feeling of persecution.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

see if you can guess..It is fraught with danger and intrigue, mystery and pizzaz, punches and sandwiches, and sometimes, when it gets really interesting, i have to tell people to take their feet off the seats by way of elaborate con merchantness.

am i...

a. a cinema usher

b. a train conducter

c. a completely out of his mind vigilante who makes money by stealing money off criminals.

Not the thing I guessed

 

[Anita18]

Godzilla sounds depressed to me. I dont think that taking a harsh tone with her is going to help her at all.

I've already talked about introversion/Asperger's with her at least FIVE TIMES, and she doesn't even acknowledge that people like that exist.

I know that depressed people often need a lot of time/patience to get any progress, but I also know that insisting to continue feeling sorry for yourself is definitely not the way out. Enabling her to feel sorry for herself is not going to help at this point.

I don't think any of what we say here is going to help her make a breakthrough, really. I've had continuing conversations with desperately depressed people privately, but they don't post about any of it AT ALL on public forums, even though I know them mostly through said forums. They're having a private battle within themselves, desperately wanting to change but don't know how. I don't think Jin wants to change.

I think we're in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation. If we tell her she's right, we're enabling her beliefs. If we tell her she's wrong, she'll just use it to continue her "everyone is out to get me" way of thinking.

Only the people who know her in real life and can physically stage an intervention will be able to help her in any palpable manner.

 

[Hobgoblin]

How about we either ignore her?

 

[E-Man]

I'm going to have to start selling tickets to this thread. I'm already thinking about growing my hair out.I could just dye it gray, put it in that Don King shape, and then I could start making money off the entertainment up in here.

 

[Duke]

How about we either ignore her?

That's a sensible thing to do.

 

[Erzengel]

I've already talked about introversion/Asperger's with her at least FIVE TIMES, and she doesn't even acknowledge that people like that exist.

I know that depressed people often need a lot of time/patience to get any progress, but I also know that insisting to continue feeling sorry for yourself is definitely not the way out. Enabling her to feel sorry for herself is not going to help at this point.

I don't think any of what we say here is going to help her make a breakthrough, really. I've had continuing conversations with desperately depressed people privately, but they don't post about any of it AT ALL on public forums, even though I know them mostly through said forums. They're having a private battle within themselves, desperately wanting to change but don't know how. I don't think Jin wants to change.

I think we're in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation. If we tell her she's right, we're enabling her beliefs. If we tell her she's wrong, she'll just use it to continue her "everyone is out to get me" way of thinking.

Only the people who know her in real life and can physically stage an intervention will be able to help her in any palpable manner.

I remember when she posted as Godzilla2000 originally and I don't remember her being this "quirky".

Part of me thinks it's just a internet persona.

 

[Anita18]

How about we either ignore her?

It's the INFJ "Counselor" personality in me. I always want to try and help.

 

[Duke]

I'm going to have to start selling tickets to this thread. I'm already thinking about growing my hair out.I could just dye it gray, put it in that Don King shape, and then I could start making money off the entertainment up in here.

But then you could be busted for scalping tickets.

 

[Eggyman]

It's the INFJ "Counselor" personality in me. I always want to try and help.

Sometimes it's not possible. Imagine you're Dr Melfi and she's Tony Soprano. You're just enabling her.

 

[Anita18]

Sometimes it's not possible. Imagine you're Dr Melfi and she's Tony Soprano. You're just enabling her.

Yeah, you're right, especially with the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" sort of thing.

I think that was the last straw. You know what they say, stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly in the same circumstance, expecting a different result.

Here's my last direct message to Godzilla2000: I hope you find some happiness. But know that's entirely up to you.

 

[Eggyman]

Yeah, you're right, especially with the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" sort of thing.

I think that was the last straw. You know what they say, stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly in the same circumstance, expecting a different result.

Here's my last direct message to Godzilla2000: I hope you find some happiness. But know that's entirely up to you.

Eh, I just like talking about Sopranos. I keep dreaming about them. Sometimes my dad is Tony Soprano, and sometimes Tony Soprano is my dad. Sometimes my dad actually is Tony Soprano but I am still me and we don't live in Jersey. The other night, Uncle Junior was teaching me how to make pasta bread and I asked him if he liked the last episode and did he think Tony was dead or not. He told me to shut up.

It has ruined me.

Yeh, I'm behind the times, but it's worth it. Good day.

 

[WillardNation]

Well, what I'm wondering at this very moment is whether or not there are people out there that understand what it's like to be socially handicapped. I'm having one of my bad days today, ones where I just don't feel like going out, but I have to work tonight, disability flare up or not. I just feel like because I'm able to counteract my mental problems with great concentration some people don't view me as afflicted when that's not the case. It just takes more energy for me to act "normal" by the definition of the ignorant public. It's times like these when my energy is low that I wonder of there's anyone out there that is on my side and understands what I'm going through, what's going on in my mind, all the thoughts I have to dis-spell and banish by sheer force of will alone.

Walk it off.

How about we either ignore her?

Absolutely not. Jin has become my favorite part of the Hype.

 

[ComicChick]

Absolutely not. Jin has become my favorite part of the Hype.

ive been replaced

 

[The Original Bamfer]

ive been replaced

You're the lowest on his totem pole. But from what I've seen, that's not very far from the top.

 

[WillardNation]

You're the lowest on his totem pole. But from what I've seen, that's not very far from the top.

It's good to know that there's nothing in the rules of being a mod about "never contributing positively in any thread ever and only posting to talk **** to people and be a ****".

 

[The Original Bamfer]

It's good to know that there's nothing in the rules of being a mod about "never contributing positively in any thread ever and only posting to talk **** to people and be a ****".

We are permitted to have personalities, yes. Strange, I know.

It just so happens humor's a big part of who I am, and joking around with friends is something I do enjoy.