Arrow Top 3 Things You Want to See on Arrow

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Hey folks, since there's enough of us around here talking about how Season 3 could have been handled different, how about we a head start on Season 4. :) What do you want to see *most* on Arrow? And a pre-emptive chastisement on those of you who go beyond three things. :o

For me...

1. A really badarse talk-about-it-for-weeks fight scene where Ollie takes down a really tough series of enemies on his own.
2. Arrow in an actual relationship instead of just dancing around one
3. The Question, and a plotline appropriate for his brand and level of awesomeness.
 
1. Someone, preferably Natas, showing up in the flashbacks to further train Oliver in combat skills. Season 1 Oliver was one hell of a fighter. I just find it hard to believe that the Oliver we see in the flashbacks could attain such a high level of skill if he didn't have another teacher to train him. This is considering that he only trained under Slade and Shado for less than a year, and doesn't seem to be that great of a fighter as of now.

2. More focus on Diggle, as I feel this character deserves more attention than what he's been getting the past two seasons. Establishing HIVE as a major adversary for Team Arrow in season 4 would be a great way to do this, considering the connection to Andy Diggle's murder.

3. Oliver and Felicity's relationship being completely platonic. I just don't think those two characters are compatible with one another, and the Olicity drama this season has one of the things that dragged the season down, imo.
 
1. Better writing.

2. Little to no forced or romantic drama.

3. Diggle being as involved in everything as he was in season one.
 
1. A smaller, tighter season. This season has felt like they have gotten so big that they have no idea what to do with anything or anyone. Widdle down the cast a little (axe Malcolm, I'd say kill Laurel but no way are they going to do that, stick Roy on a bus for a little while) and don't go so big. No destroy the city plots, no international assassins group. Keep it small, tight and have it make sense. Use it as a season to dig into Ollie's politics, have him run for mayor towards the finale and have the villain plot be tied to the political angle of the season. Dr. Cosmic mentioned The Question and I agree that he should be included (didn't they hint at him in season 2 with some hints online?) and this is the perfect place for him to come in.

2. Move Oliver towards his comics counterpart in terms of personality.

3. Kill Laurel. But that'll never happen so. :oldrazz: Since that's too far out there, better relationship stuff.

If I can cheat and add a fourth:

4. Stop trying to be other heroes. You're making a Green Arrow show, make a Green Arrow show and not a Batman-lite show. You use Atom? Don't make him Tony Stark-lite. Applies for whoever else they want to use.
 
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1) Make Olliver Hunt down the politicians from the list. That would be the PERFECT super hero. We really do not need a super hero to protect us from petty crime. They should focus on the much bigger crime like they did on S01.

2) Lower the drama a bit. Feels way too forced (said above)

3) Bring Back Queen Consolidated. I find the lack of Olliver Queen unbalancing the amount of arrow we have.
 
1. Solid Flashbacks. I agree that Oliver needs a good teacher since a few months of Slade and Shado doesn't explain how we got uber badass Season 1 Ollie (hells, in the comics he was on the island for 5 years, hunting his food, and he was already an amazing archer before he ever got stranded. The bow is a part of him, show us how true that is).

2. Consistency. If someone beats Oliver (or anyone else) early on, show us how (s)he grows to become capable of beating them later, don't just use the tired cliché of "they just wanted it more" or some emotional bulls**t.

3. Assuming Team Arrow doesn't get trimmed down, have them break into teams and give us good character interactions (shuffled around, so that we get each of the five fighters, assuming Thea joins, going out on patrol with each of the others). Essentially, for me, character is king. Show us gradual growth and realistic change (and try not to base it all on someone dying.)
 
1) more airtime dedicated to villains. One episode for a villan doesn't seem enough. Would be great to have 2-3 episode arcs dedicated to villans. Would make for interesting cliff hangers.

2) more speedy (Thea). She is not only visually the hottest female character, she looks better in her martial arts than Laurel. Her as Oliver's main side kick would be great.

3) Better season progression and writing.. This season seemed to be all over the place. I feel like you could take one episode and put it in another season. I would love the writing to have each episode lead to the next better rather than have it seem as filler episodes.
 
1. Character development for Oliver Queen. We almost always see Oliver as the "Arrow" (whether or not he's wearing green leather). Whatever happened to re-claiming Queen Consolidated and using the company to do good? Whatever happened to Oliver being broke and possibly facing the fact that he couldn't even afford to be the Arrow any more? What happened to the idea that Oliver could do good both in and out of the mask? I don't want a bunch of boring boardroom scenes, but one of the most interesting thing about superheroes is the duality in their character and we have none of that with Oliver. He doesn't have a job. He doesn't have an apartment. He barely even has a secret identity any more since almost every other named character on the show knows who he is (or is wilfully ignorant about his identity).

2. Smaller cast. I know, it's cruel, but they need to think of some way to reduce the cast. They don't have to kill off anyone, but they need to consider writing out characters for 3 or more episodes at a time to allow all of the characters a chance to develop. Basically, they need to take it in turns. Diggle can head off on his honeymoon or an ARGUS/Suicide Squad mission for a while. Oliver can send Roy to Bludhaven on a mission to gather intelligence about some threat. Felicity can be called to Central City to help with some problem or go and visit her mum in Las Vegas for an extended break. Laurel can leave to go and train with Nyssa or Lady Shiva or Katana or someone else for a while. At the moment, none of the characters are being fairly treated by the writers because they're spread far too thin trying to develop all of them which is a near impossible task for so many characters.

Oliver's "revelation" that his primary motivation for facing Ra's again is because he can't stand the humiliation of being beaten shouldn't have come out of left field. We should have had a better idea of just how arrogant Oliver had become and how selfish he had become. There were little hints dropped here and there, but I don't think it was sufficient to explain such ... pigheadedness.

3. Flashbacks. If these are going to continue until the end of season 5, then they need to be better. The story needs to be compelling and preferably it should tie into the present day action, whether directly through a continuing storyline or thematically. While we may be leading up to a somewhat interesting "revelation" for ARGUS, Maseo and Tatsu this season, I don't think countless boring flashbacks is sufficient justification for whatever revelation they do have planned.

If they can't come up with any more compelling flashbacks, then drop them. Or instead of having an entire season-long series of flashbacks, just use flashbacks if and when the current storyline justifies them. I feel as though everything that we've seen with ARGUS, Maseo and Tatsu to date could have been captured in flashbacks in one or two episodes, instead of being spread across 10+ episodes. Not only have the flashbacks been dull, but their continued forced inclusion cuts into the available screen time for the cast of characters in the present day storyline. If they'd devoted some of the time allocated to the flashbacks to trying to expand the character development of Oliver, Malcolm, Roy, etc this season, then perhaps it wouldn't feel so disjointed.

Honourable mention: Have fun! Sure, "realism", "gritty", "dark", "mature", etc are all great buzz words, but at the end of the day this is a TV series based on a comic book. Stop running from that fact and embrace it. People can have "powers" on this show. Laurel could have been in Central City and she could have developed the Canary Cry. The Lazarus Pit could have been used by Ra's to revive Oliver after their battle. The news could have started calling "Arrow" the "Green Arrow" especially since there is now a "Red Arrow" (and sometimes a "Black Arrow" (i.e. Merlyn)) running around the city.
 
The biggest structural change I would make is to segmenting the cast into their subplots, then make those subplots worth paying attention to. Last year, we had just as big of a cast, but it mostly worked out. There was the island storyline with Ollie, Shado, and Slade, then Sara joined. The change up there worked very well with a strong and dynamic ensemble. Then we had Team Arrow Cave with Felicity, Diggle, and Ollie, with Lance as a common ally. Then we had Team Speedy, consisting of Roy, Thea, and Sin, and they honestly had decent if not great material. And we had the Queens, with Thea, Ollie, and Moira. The only real problem was Laurel being stranded on the outside of each group and going through a predictable story.

If you want to use all your characters, use multiple subplots that are tied together. Maybe Roy and Thea are captured by HIVE and have to team up with Slade or someone, while Ollie looks for them and tackles Starling's problems alongside Digs and Felicty, while Black Canary and Lance seek to clean out and rebuild the Glades to prevent a crime problem. And if you want to build up villains, have them compete against each other.
 
Further embracing the more out there aspects of a super hero universe and maybe tackling some of the stuff Oliver did in the comics to try and do good by the city. Like running for Mayor, for example.
 
laurel dead, bring back sara
AND THATS IT
 
1) Hal Jordan!!! I seriously want to see some bromance and partnership between hal and oliver whether it's in the flashbacks or present day2)Like others, i want Natas training Oliver and then betraying him
3) more um... Powers? Supernatural stuff. Like lazarus pits and a few metahumans from central city popping up in starling.
 
1) Expose his identity, take away his money and tech support, and send him out on the streets with his iconic facial hair as a "hero of the people".


2)For the writers to accept that they are in the same universe as The Flash, and allow the show to include metahumans, and the like.


3) To introduce aliens and the Green Lantern mythos.
 
1:Focus on Oliver.Others should be supporting him not thinking they know better
2:Find some way to resurrect Sara.
3:Eather have Felicity as romance intrest for Oliver or end any hint of feelings and just have Felicity as support for Oliver.
 
1 - have Ollie take on a super baddie 1 on 1. Grundy......He was introduced in season 2.....bring him back and make him big. Have Ollie and maybe Roy fight him. I'm thinking of the 2 on 1 fight from Kevin smiths run.

Blockbuster, ....I'm tired and can't think of any others but just a big strong guy. Like....The whole episode could pretty much be the fight. That would be great.

2 - Booster Gold. I think Ollie would really have some conflict with him. Ollie is doing it to make the city better but Booster is just there for fame and glory. I would really love to see their interaction.

3 - more metas in general. Show how Ollie and team arrow really need to step up their game. Maybe Ollie would seek out Palmers help in some new tech for arrows. Trick arrows.
 
Get back to putting fear into corrupt land lords and evil rich people like in season one. let the police deal with the gangs, the charm of arrow in season one was him going after the untouchables.
 

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