USA using Patriot Act against its own citizens

[SoulManX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFVQ0HZz2mc&feature=player_embedded


In my back yard

 

[Paradyme]

So, are you saying you conspired with him?

Just kidding. This whole situation is bizarre and crazy.

 

[VampElvis]

Haven't watched the vid (yet) but it wouldn't be the first time. I seem to recall its (Patriot Act) use in prosecuting a couple of thugs that owned a strip club out in the west somewhere when it couldn't have been more than a couple of years old.

 

[Victarion]

Disgusting. I call for REVOLUTION!

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

New law?

Are they ****ing serious?

This has been happening for quite a while already.

due process is nice. Too bad we allowed it to be destroyed years ago.

 

[dnno1]

This could be used as a golden opportunity to have this taken to the Supreme Court to have it thrown out as unconstitutional. I am really sorry that the kid is not getting due process.

 

[The Major]

This could be used as a golden opportunity to have this taken to the Supreme Court to have it thrown out as unconstitutional. I am really sorry that the kid is not getting due process.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't see it happening.

We must stop the terrorists at all costs. Even if innocent people get caught in the mercliess web.

I'm sure that's the argument FOR the Patriot Act. This story is getting no air time either.

 

[Paradoxium]

So it looks like it got extended. No debates at all thanks to Harry Reid.

From FireDogLake a progressive blog.

Deafening Liberal Silence as the Senate Moves to Extend the Patriot Act

Rand Paul Facing Torrent of Fearmongering Over Holding Up Patriot Act Passage for One Day[YT]zr939QII_Dc[/YT]

Reid's use of procedure to avoid debate:

Harry Reid Pushes Patriot Act Past Rand Paul

Sen. Reid basically killed his current bill and and opted to take up a House small business bill (it's in a form that's considered filibuster-proof as far as starting debate goes). Neither Rand Paul nor anyone else can object to this. Reid then amended the House bill with the entire text of the Patriot Act extension.

In doing so, Sen. Reid has essentially extended the Patriot Act although there are some steps that must still take place; it will be likely Thursday before a cloture vote can occur. It's unclear whether Reid can get to final passage in time, but these things have a way of working themselves out.

 

[8wid]

This could be used as a golden opportunity to have this taken to the Supreme Court to have it thrown out as unconstitutional. I am really sorry that the kid is not getting due process.

The family should sue the F*** out of the FBI if the charges are found to be baseless and he is acquitted, or perhaps to challenge it for just its constitutionality.

 

[Timstuff]

Well what do you know, it turns out this kid actually was making bomb threats.

http://www.fbi.gov/indianapolis/press-releases/2011/ip011011.htm

I agree that we need checks and balances to make sure that things like the patriot act do not abuse our rights. However, I think that a lot of people jump to conclusions whenever they hear a sob story like this and do not get to the bottom of it first. No-one wants to believe their little angel is getting into trouble, but that's why you make sure that they know better than to make threats.

 

[Vichy]

All laws are used against their citizens. That is what governments do.

 

[Timstuff]

I'm pretty sure that using laws against the citizens of other countries is when nations run into trouble.

 

[TheVileOne]

FYI, Obama and his democrats are still supporting the Patriot Act.

So meh to all you liberals that hate the Patriot Act and voted for your liberal saviours, meh I say .

 

[Vichy]

FYI, Obama and his democrats are still supporting the Patriot Act.

So meh to all you liberals that hate the Patriot Act and voted for your liberal saviours, meh I say .

There's only two kinds of politicians: liars and dead ones.