Superman Returns WB, Singer, and the Sequel

[charl_huntress]

Movies that can't display good dialogue without using profanities really turn me off, same with posts on this board. Come on. You make good points without that garbage.

Profanity is human dialogue...created by us.

Get used to it Showeyt:

 

[C. Lee]

Profanity is human dialogue...created by us.

Get used to it Showeyt:

Humans create fecal matter also....but that doesn't mean I want to look at it on a message board.

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

You mean like Depp and Burton, or Scorcese and Decaprio? It's not odd for a director to go with a team of writers or make multiple movies with a particular actress or actor.

Got it.

 

[Showtime]

Profanity is human dialogue...created by us.

Get used to it Showeyt:

I am used to it, that's the problem.

 

[echostation]

why would u not want to look at fecal matter on a message board? I think fecal matter is pretty studly stuff! like totally hard and kick ass... mushy like putty...yummmmmm sethu

 

[The Kid]

Fecal Matter I believe, will be used as our fuel in the future. It has many other uses as well. You can sculpt it into jars, pots and plates, fertilize your garden, put it in a bag and lite it on fire as a prank on your neighbor, use it as a makeup mud mask thing women use, even use some under your eyes during football... and numerous others...

The fun with Fecal Matter never ends!

 

[echostation]

**Do not post pics of crap again -C. Lee -**

quite the tasty organic solution to many of our problems, especially with Lex's land deal...

 

[charl_huntress]

Humans create fecal matter also....but that doesn't mean I want to look at it on a message board.

Ahhhh...C. Lee, you look at dead skin, dead bodies and fecal matter on a daily. Your microscopic perspective just doesnt' equal the Bronze Man...

Joke...lol...lol...

I'm catching up.

Hey Jen!

 

[buggs0268]

^Jason wont be the focus of the next movie, once again it will be Superman and Lois, Singer added it in to give Superman something he has never dealt with before, not as a replacement for him.

Singer added Jason because this was his big idea that he has been telling everyone on all of his film sets since Spacey mentioned him talking about it to everyone on the set of "The Usual Suspects". In an interview when Bryan was first signed, he said "Bryan would go around the Usual Suspects set and tell everyone about his sequel to Superman 2" Yep. That is what he said. Sequel to Superman 2. And I know exactly what he was telling everyone. "Superman and Lois had sex when he was human in the fortress, so he would naturally inpregnate Lois and she would have a kid who would be half Kryptonian. And since she was given the kiss of forgetfullness, she would think the kid is the guy she is with as Superman was not going to be with her anymore...Wouldn't that be cool." Or some such nonsense like that. But from what Spacey said, you know the kid was always in the picture as a sequel to Superman 2 that Bryan has benn blabbing to anyone who could hear on every set he was on.

 

[Pickle-El]

Singer added Jason because this was his big idea that he has been telling everyone on all of his film sets since Spacey mentioned him talking about it to everyone on the set of "The Usual Suspects". In an interview when Bryan was first signed, he said "Bryan would go around the Usual Suspects set and tell everyone about his sequel to Superman 2"

Link?

Yep. That is what he said. Sequel to Superman 2. And I know exactly what he was telling everyone.

Really? A link? Or taperecording?

"Superman and Lois had sex when he was human in the fortress, so he would naturally inpregnate Lois and she would have a kid who would be half Kryptonian. And since she was given the kiss of forgetfullness, she would think the kid is the guy she is with as Superman was not going to be with her anymore...Wouldn't that be cool." Or some such nonsense like that. But from what Spacey said, you know the kid was always in the picture as a sequel to Superman 2 that Bryan has benn blabbing to anyone who could hear on every set he was on.

Are you Dan or Mike? A link? Or a close 'personal friend' of Singer? Otherwise.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_English_Law

 

[buggs0268]

Link?



Really? A link? Or taperecording?


Are you Dan or Mike? A link? Or a close 'personal friend' of Singer? Otherwise.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_English_Law

Oh god. How did I know the king of "no one can say anything bad about SR or Singer, and I am going to post replies to any poster who does" would reply. There is an interview that was on TV with Spacey before he was cast, but after it was announced that Brandon was the new director. I believe it was entertainment tonight, but it might have been access hollywood. And in it he said "He was going around on the Usual Suspects set telling everyone his idea for a sequel to Superman 2. So I am glad to see he is finally getting his chance to do it" They also asked Spacey if he was going to play Lex Luthor, and he said that he didn't know. They have talked about him being in it, but he wasn't sure he could do it with his schedule at the time. I don't know if the video is online, but it was on the TV right after he was signed on by Warners. I think it was on Access Hollywood or Entertainment Tonight. And from that, pretty much everyone can guess his idea was Superman and Lois having a kid as they had unprotected sex in S2. And, since at the end of the movie, he gives her the kiss of forgetfullness, well you can guess it from there. But I am almost 100 percent certain his big idea was Supes and Lois having a kid and Spacey did say "sequel to Superman 2". I don't have a link to it as I don't know if it is online but I do know what I saw on the TV.

Thanks for the Wikepedia link. I am going to let Red reply to you:

It was also why when rumors came about about Lois having a kid, even though I didn't say anthing, I knew the kids was going to end up being his. Becaue Singer wanted to make a sequel to Superman 2 all along. He, or one of the whack pack had even said this would be the new Superman 3.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I dont think the big idea was simply the kid. Apparently Singer was going around saying he had a great idea for a sequel to Supes 2, but mentioned nothing about the kid.

 

[superbaby]

I dont think the big idea was simply the kid. Apparently Singer was going around saying he had a great idea for a sequel to Supes 2, but mentioned nothing about the kid.

and you believe him that he has good story for the sequel?
he had once said that he didn't have any ideas for the sequel while he was doing SR. he said that he only concentrated doing the movie didn't think much of the possible future.

 

[Pickle-El]

Oh god. How did I know the king of "no one can say anything bad about SR or Singer, and I am going to post replies to any poster who does" would reply. There is an interview that was on TV with Spacey before he was cast, but after it was announced that Brandon was the new director. I believe it was entertainment tonight, but it might have been access hollywood. And in it he said "He was going around on the Usual Suspects set telling everyone his idea for a sequel to Superman 2. So I am glad to see he is finally getting his chance to do it" They also asked Spacey if he was going to play Lex Luthor, and he said that he didn't know. They have talked about him being in it, but he wasn't sure he could do it with his schedule at the time. I don't know if the video is online, but it was on the TV right after he was signed on by Warners. I think it was on Access Hollywood or Entertainment Tonight. And from that, pretty much everyone can guess his idea was Superman and Lois having a kid as they had unprotected sex in S2. And, since at the end of the movie, he gives her the kiss of forgetfullness, well you can guess it from there. But I am almost 100 percent certain his big idea was Supes and Lois having a kid and Spacey did say "sequel to Superman 2". I don't have a link to it as I don't know if it is online but I do know what I saw on the TV.

Thanks for the Wikepedia link. I am going to let Red reply to you:

It was also why when rumors came about about Lois having a kid, even though I didn't say anthing, I knew the kids was going to end up being his. Becaue Singer wanted to make a sequel to Superman 2 all along. He, or one of the whack pack had even said this would be the new Superman 3.

Wow. You edited this entire post 24 hours after you originally made your respose.....is it that tough to come back with something at me? Or, are the responses just that slow?

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[AVEITWITHJAMON]

and you believe him that he has good story for the sequel?
he had once said that he didn't have any ideas for the sequel while he was doing SR. he said that he only concentrated doing the movie didn't think much of the possible future.

He wasnt talking about the sequel to SR, he was talking about a sequel idea for Superman 2 that turned into SR.

 

[buggs0268]

Wow. You edited this entire post 24 hours after you originally made your respose.....is it that tough to come back with something at me? Or, are the responses just that slow?

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Ahhhh...That was no zing. Actually that must be a mistake by the system. I posted that last night with a different dumbass ending, and then about 15 minutes later, thought I might have stepped over the line to far, and so I remembered Red saying "dumb ass" on the show and thought it safer to get the same objective by posting his picture saying it. So NO ZING FOR YOU. I don't even know why you think your little comment was funny, or worthy of a Zing, but you must be very easily amused. I am painting a wall tommorrow and if you want you can come over and watch the paint dry for your hours of entertainment pleasure.

 

[buggs0268]

I dont think the big idea was simply the kid. Apparently Singer was going around saying he had a great idea for a sequel to Supes 2, but mentioned nothing about the kid.

Um helllooo. Sequel to Superman 2 is they had unprotected sex and would naturally have a kid from it. This is his idea that he was running around telling everyone. The trip to Krypton was added later, but most of this stuff was his idea as his sequel to Superman 2. That is why Spacey said "I am glad he is finally able to do it" talking about his sequel to Superman 2 that he was telling everyone. And guess what, this is a sequel to Superman 2. The vague history stuff is B/S. It was just a ruse so that people didn't get his suprise "the kid is Superman's". When he first got signed on, he raved about Superman 2. As time came closer to the premiere, he said he didn't think Superman 2 was a good movie. It was deflection to get people of the track of Superman and Lois sleeping together in S2, and that they kid was theirs.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Um helllooo. Sequel to Superman 2 is they had unprotected sex and would naturally have a kid from it. This is his idea that he was running around telling everyone. The trip to Krypton was added later, but most of this stuff was his idea as his sequel to Superman 2. That is why Spacey said "I am glad he is finally able to do it" talking about his sequel to Superman 2 that he was telling everyone. And guess what, this is a sequel to Superman 2. The vague history stuff is B/S. It was just a ruse so that people didn't get his suprise "the kid is Superman's". When he first got signed on, he raved about Superman 2. As time came closer to the premiere, he said he didn't think Superman 2 was a good movie. It was deflection to get people of the track of Superman and Lois sleeping together in S2, and that they kid was theirs.

Just because two people sleep together doesnt mean a kid will be made. I remember Singer saying he had had an idea for a sequel to Supes 2 for ages, but not a mention of the kid.

 

[buggs0268]

Just because two people sleep together doesnt mean a kid will be made. I remember Singer saying he had had an idea for a sequel to Supes 2 for ages, but not a mention of the kid.

Oh please tell me you are not that thick in the head. He did not mention the kid because that was the big reveal for the movie that he had in mind. Of course he was not going to mention the kid in the interviews. That is like M. Night Shamalamadingdong saying "I have this great movie about this kid who sees dead people, and one of the main characters that he talks to played by Bruce Willis, who you think is real, is actually dead. But even though I just told, you you will still be suprised at this revelation in the movie even though I just told you it is coming." Of course he isn't going to say that. But that was his idea. Lois and Superman have a kid because they had unprotected sex while he was a human in Superman 2. And remember, this is movie logic here. 100 times out of a 100, in the movies, when two characters have unprotected sex, unlike in life, a baby will be the result, unless the plot calls for the losing of the baby or unable to conceive as a character or story motivation.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No i am not thick thank-you very much, and i'd prefer it if you stayed away from insulting comments please.

Anyway, i'm not disputing that the kid was Singers big reveal, i was just saying that Singer wasnt going around saying anything about the kid, just that he had an idea for a sequel.

 

[buggs0268]

No i am not thick thank-you very much, and i'd prefer it if you stayed away from insulting comments please.

Anyway, i'm not disputing that the kid was Singers big reveal, i was just saying that Singer wasnt going around saying anything about the kid, just that he had an idea for a sequel.

No he was talking about the kid. According to Spacey, he was telling his idea to anyone who would listen to him about his idea for a sequel to Superman 2, and that idea was also telling people about the kid. It is amazing that no one that he told his idea too in all those years ever said anything while the movie was being made, but that was his idea. Superman and Lois would have had a kid from their union in the Lester version. In the Donner version, the turn back time thing would erase that.

 

[Showtime]

I've never seen an interview or article that details Singer waltzing around discussing the kid plot point. If Spacey revealed that Singer's story involved Superman having a kid, than he is pretty thick because it was used as a revealing plot device. In any reports I have seen or heard, Singer's idea involved Superman leaving after a long period of time and returning to find the world has changed. I am sure the kid was involved at some point in the movie, but I would imagine Singer didn't tell the story and reveal Superman has a kid, but that Lois did.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've never seen an interview or article that details Singer waltzing around discussing the kid plot point. If Spacey revealed that Singer's story involved Superman having a kid, than he is pretty thick because it was used as a revealing plot device. In any reports I have seen or heard, Singer's idea involved Superman leaving after a long period of time and returning to find the world has changed. I am sure the kid was involved at some point in the movie, but I would imagine Singer didn't tell the story and reveal Superman has a kid, but that Lois did.

Yeah same here, i dont remember him or anyone ever mentioning about the kid.

 

[buggs0268]

I've never seen an interview or article that details Singer waltzing around discussing the kid plot point. If Spacey revealed that Singer's story involved Superman having a kid, than he is pretty thick because it was used as a revealing plot device. In any reports I have seen or heard, Singer's idea involved Superman leaving after a long period of time and returning to find the world has changed. I am sure the kid was involved at some point in the movie, but I would imagine Singer didn't tell the story and reveal Superman has a kid, but that Lois did.

Again, Spacey said in a televised interview after Singer was signed on that (paraphrasing) "bryan would be telling anyone who would listen about his idea for a sequel to Superman 2 on the set of the usual suspects. So I am glad he is finally getting his chance to do it." Since Supes and Lois had unprotected sex in Superman 2, it is very logical to assume that his idea was that Superman and Lois had a kid from that meeting, but Lois would not remember it from the kiss of forgetrulness since that is the only thing that would go on any further from 2. In Lester's 2, the three Villians die. So the only furthering thing from 2 would be a kid. In movie logi, any time two characters have unprotected sex, they have a kid, excpet for Superman 3, as it would have involved Kidder in most of the movie being Mommy, and the Salkind's had a problem bithcing about them firing Donner all the time on the reshoots of Lester's 2. I never said that Spacey said anything about Bryan's plan for the kid, but since they had unprotected sex in 2, and in Singer's movie Lois and Supes have a kid, when do you think that Kid was conceived. The vague history stuff wa just crap to misdirect.

 

[Maze]

Well in June Spacey had forgotten about it

He also mentions that the role was offered to him about a decade ago, when Tim Burton and Nic Cage were attached to the film, and whether director Bryan Singer talked to him about it back on The Usual Suspects:

I mean he might have but if he did, I don't recall it. What I do know is that we had some kind of conversation when I went in to meet Tim Burton, 10 or 11 years ago when Tim was going to do it. And apparently Tim wanted me to play the Lex Luther part but I never read a script. It was apparently an entirely different scenario and I think it was Nick Cage. And I remember we had a conversation then about it and I think it was then that I remember Bryan saying, "Oh, what an incredible thing that would be".

http://www.flixens.com/lex_speaks