Superman Returns WB, Singer, and the Sequel

[hippie_hunter]

Is Jason a Mutant? His father could be cyclops you know.

Technically Jason is a hybrid if Superman is the father

 

[xwolverine2]

Are they going to have kids in their movies too? Oh happy happy joy joy. That will be splendid.

the babys will have their own movie......."Superhero pre-k"

 

[The Kid]

Everyone is open to their opinion. But, those calling everything negative "the truth" and everything positive a "spin" and then acting as though they aren't bias. Lol. That's obvious bias pov.

No this is spin. I can't look pass the truth here. It's the same spin we got for the Hulk. so there's presedence for it.

but your Generalizing like that is true though. This is the hater zone.

 

[xwolverine2]

Because I'm Wesyeed.

you got me there

Technically Jason is a hybrid if Superman is the father

a hybrid alien mutant a baby...................

same could be said about TomKats baby

 

[The Kid]

Technically Jason is a hybrid if Superman is the father

wroooooooooooooong

He could be a mutant baby of cyclops. anything's possible.

 

[hippie_hunter]

but thats all that happened........

every one of the heroes you just named are D-list

Batman, Aquaman, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Wally West, and Barry Allen are A-listers, not D-listers

 

[hippie_hunter]

wroooooooooooooong

That's impossible. Which father do you speak of, Jor el or Pa kent?

If Richard is the father, then Jason is a mutant.

If Superman is the father, then Jason is a human/Kryptonian hybrid.

 

[xwolverine2]

Batman, Aquaman, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Wally West, and Barry Allen are A-listers, not D-listers

cant wait to see the WALLY WEST movie!!!!

ROTFL!!!

 

[C. Lee]

your gonna have to explain that to me

The whole "vague" history plot screws things up.

We know that in Superman II, Superman (after losing his powers) had sex with Lois. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually have sex with her...and did he or did he not temporarily lose his powers?

We know that in Superman II, Superman mind wiped Lois of this event. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually mind wipe her, did it work if he did do it, was it only temporary as Superman IV showed....?

Was Jason's piano throwing the result of Kryptonian/human DNA finally kicking in....or the result of extreme adrenalin rush from seeing his mother being brutaly attacked? There are scientificly documented examples of this happening.

Being a Vague history patchwork quilt of some storylines from Superman I and II and some things from Singer's own creation....there is currently no definative answer to who the father of Jason is.

 

[The Kid]

If Richard is the father, then Jason is a mutant.

If Superman is the father, then Jason is a human/Kryptonian hybrid.

I missread you there. My bad.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The whole "vague" history plot screws things up.

We know that in Superman II, Superman (after losing his powers) had sex with Lois. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually have sex with her...and did he or did he not temporarily lose his powers?

We know that in Superman II, Superman mind wiped Lois of this event. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually mind wipe her, did it work if he did do it, was it only temporary as Superman IV showed....?

Was Jason's piano throwing the result of Kryptonian/human DNA finally kicking in....or the result of extreme adrenalin rush from seeing his mother being brutaly attacked? There are scientificly documented examples of this happening.

Being a Vague history patchwork quilt of some storylines from Superman I and II and some things from Singer's own creation....there is currently no definative answer to who the father of Jason is.

Even though Clark no longer had his powers in Superman II, he still had Kryptonian DNA because of his heritage.

 

[The Kid]

The whole "vague" history plot screws things up.

We know that in Superman II, Superman (after losing his powers) had sex with Lois. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually have sex with her...and did he or did he not temporarily lose his powers?

We know that in Superman II, Superman mind wiped Lois of this event. "VAGUE" history makes this fact now unsure. Did he actually mind wipe her, did it work if he did do it, was it only temporary as Superman IV showed....?

Was Jason's piano throwing the result of Kryptonian/human DNA finally kicking in....or the result of extreme adrenalin rush from seeing his mother being brutaly attacked? There are scientificly documented examples of this happening.

Being a Vague history patchwork quilt of some storylines from Superman I and II and some things from Singer's own creation....there is currently no definative answer to who the father of Jason is.

But come on man... Superman gave the whole Kryptonian father son talk at the end. It's not dna test clear, but it's common sense clear to me who the papa is... Sure they could come back and have Richard be the real father because he's a mutant from outerspace or something, but for now, I think it's safe to say Superman somehow managed to have himself a little superkid.

 

[C. Lee]

Even though Clark no longer had his powers in Superman II, he still had Kryptonian DNA because of his heritage.

I know...that's part of my questioning of how Supes can be the father.

 

[boywonder13]

i dont really care how it happened, I dont want to go into the inter species crap....

 

[hippie_hunter]

i dont really care how it happened, I dont want to go into the inter species crap....

Is Jason sterile

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I find it funny how many posters on here state that EVERYTHING positive that comes out is a 'spin'. And that everything negative that comes out is the truth. Lol. And anti-SR call pro-SR bias? Lol. It's both way around. There is a middle grounds. The truth exists somewhere between these corrupt anti boards and the BT completely positive boards. It's in the middle, not one extremeity or the next. Lol.

Please. It is studio spin and I in no way will fall for it just to seem fair to you or anyother person on these boards.

The funny thing about that article is that it's bad spin. The movie did 100mil less than WB's pres thought and it's still a success? and they want to bring back the director because they liked the film? Yes because a movie can be both a success and failure and WB finaced the movie alone...Wait a minute...they didn't!

I have stated before that I think that there is a 50/50 chance Singer won't or will come back and I still stick to that.

I wouldn't put it pass WB to bring him back. It doesn't sound like good business, but what do I know? I didn't just make a 200 million dollar disappointment.

 

[xwolverine2]

supes is the father c.lee.......... he threw a ***in piano!lol

i cant believe were(trying to and failing at) rationalizing "mind wiping"........."mind wiping a woman!!!"

did you not see The forgotten!....:P

 

[The Kid]

Superman's seed will spread throughout the entire earth population now. Like seamonkeys all new kryptonian/human people will grow and a new race of supermen will come. that's why Jor el sent him to earth, to plant a seed that would grown into a new kryptonian superhuman race that would be able to conquer the galaxy.

Phase one is completed. Now after a few thousand years, superman's army will be ready to spread to other worlds. muahahaha

 

[Triligors]

As said you can have your opinion. But nothing is one sided. There is never something completely positive (BT) and something completely negative (SHH) as some posters may want to lead you to believe.

"Lol- definite spin, once out for a while they will bury it- good riddens Singer! The movie bombed." <- Anti.
"Yippie the sequel is coming, Singer and everyone will be back. The movie did great." <- Pro.

The truth, somewhere in the middle. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Sad thing is, neither the anti nor completely pro SR get this FACT. It's one extremeity or the other, when in reality- nothing works that way.

Because BOTH sides- anti and pro- are wrong. Yes, anti are wrong. But, as I said- so is Pro. Because BOTH are bias. BOTH are wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle of both povs. That's why I find it funny when some 'haters' say that BT is bias, without taking into account that they are ALSO bias in their opinion. I liked the movie, yes- it did have flaws, but overall I thought it was a great movie but definitely has areas in which to improve upon. Was the box office a dynamite success? No. Did the movie tank? No. As said, it's always somewhere in the middle.

 

[C. Lee]

But come on man... Superman gave the whole Kryptonian father son talk at the end. It's not dna test clear, but it's common sense clear to me who the papa is... Sure they could come back and have Richard be the real father because he's a mutant from outerspace or something, but for now, I think it's safe to say Superman somehow managed to have himself a little superkid.

That's why we are allowed to have different opinions. If they said that Kryptonian science from the Fortress crystals made it possible for thier DNA to mix....no problem for me. But that hasn't been said yet...so it's still up in the air to me.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Please. It is studio spin and I in no way will fall for it just to seem fair to you or anyother person on these boards.

The funny thing about that article is that it's bad spin. The movie did 100mil less than WB's pres thought and it's still a success? and they want to bring back the director because they liked the film? Yes because a movie can be both a success and failure and WB finaced the movie alone...Wait a minute...they didn't!

I have stated before that I think that there is a 50/50 chance Singer won't or will come back and I still stick to that.

I wouldn't put it pass WB to bring him back. It doesn't sound like good business, but what do I know? I didn't just make a 200 million dollar disappointment.

If something makes a profit then it is a success. Superman Returns has made about $350 million over a $200 million budget.

 

[xwolverine2]

Superman's seed will spread throughout the entire earth population now. Like seamonkeys all new kryptonian/human people will grow and a new race of supermen will come. that's why Jor el sent him to earth, to plant a seed that would grown into a new kryptonian superhuman race that would be able to conquer the galaxy.

Phase one is completed. Now after a few thousand years, superman's army will be ready to spread to other worlds. muahahaha

dude you need to watch what you say... wb is gonna sue you for ruining the sequel

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If something makes a profit then it is a success. Superman Returns has made about $350 million over a $200 million budget.

SR hasn't made 1 dime for the studio yet.

And hey haven't talked to you in awhile, hows it going?

 

[C. Lee]

supes is the father c.lee.......... he threw a ***in piano!lol

I gave an alternative explanation.

i cant believe were(trying to and failing at) rationalizing "mind wiping"........."mind wiping a woman!!!"

The way you wrote that....are you questioning the ethics of "mind wiping" in general...or the "mind wiping" of women?

did you not see The forgotten!....:P

Yes...interesting film. One of the main precepts was that the "mind wiping" of people without thier autorization by alien races wasn't morally or ethicly right, and very traumatic upon the people it was done to.

 

[fangrl06]

WB just doesn't get it do they...? It's not lack of action that made this movie suck (although they could have done better), but lack of directing, acting and writing.