We could be in big-time trouble - worldwide speaking

[blind_fury]

Not revenge.

Justice! t:

 

[jaguarr]

Which it has been all along for you, revenge.

Nothing noble here, move along.

Damn, when Jonty has to be the one to point out your moral inadequacies, that's GOTTA hurt!

jag

 

[Darthphere]

Damn, when Jonty has to be the one to point out your moral inadequacies, that's GOTTA hurt!

jag

We agree.

 

[Spider-Bite]

the deficit needs urgent attention, but all of the politicians are too afraid to stand up and say "I want to raise taxes" and the voters wouldn't vote for you if they think that's what your going to do either.

I seriously blame Bush for this. A smaller portion falls on the last Bush, and Ronald Raegan, but most of it falls on this Bush.

We need to rasie the retirement age by 2 years and we have to do it right now.
we need to raise minimum wage to 7 dollars over the next two years, and then we need to raise taxes on middle class by 1 percent and the richest americans by 4 percent, but those tax increases should come gradually over the course of four years, and that should start happening a year after we finish raising minimum wage.

raise taxes on cigarettes by 10 cents a pack, and another increase of ten cents 4 years later. raise taxes on beer by 10 cents a beer, or ten cents a shot.
legalize marijuana with a 4 dollars and fifty cent tax per gram, and change the sentence for smuggling drugs into the country to life in prison or 100 million dollars in exchange for a ten year sentence, or ratting somebody out in exchange for a 10 year sentence. Nobody will want to get narked on, so the druglords will pay it, and actually help fund the war on drugs.

We doubled the money we spend on education under the current leadership. It sounded like a good idea at the time, but the graduation rate went down instead of up. The reason kids don't graduate is because they choose not to graduate. I wont deny poverty and other factors contribute to this, but if a kid chooses not to graduate than it doesn't matter how much you increase education funding, they still aren't going to graduate because they don't want to. Raising minimum wage will actually get graduation rates up.
We should return funding for education to the days of Clinton.

We eliminate the death penalty. The cost is ridiculously higher than life in prison.

Bush invested billions and billions in investing whether or not global warming is actually happening, even though we already knew it was happening. That's a ridiculous waste of money.

He is also spending billions on investing in technologies to repair our atmosphere or reverse global warming. this is also a waste of money. Why you might ask? Becasue every single one of them are extremely dangerous and will have catastrophic consequences if they don't work right! We don't have a bunch of spare earths to experiment on first. The answer to this problem is clear as freaking day. STOP POLLUTING! You don't have to spend billions and billions on dangerous fix em up technologies. Just stop polluting.

Trooph withdrawl.

I know there is more, but I can't think of them right now.

 

[blind_fury]

Bush wants to cut taxes for the rich and spend a billion dollars a week in Iraq. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

LOL "newsmax"

 

[The Overlord]

99% of human suffering is due to bad government suffering and dictatorialships, not anything that the Western world is doing.

Effectively removing Western world standard of living is not going to make the world a better place.

There is not going to be a restart. If it ends, it's going to end and end badly.

Perhaps but it is somewhat inevatible that the US one day be replaced by another power. Great powers rise, use or abuse their power, then decline and fall, only to be replaced by another great power. Its a cycle that has existed since the dawn of civilization and it would be naive to assume that the US would break this cycle.

 

[Spider-Bite]

we might have, if not for Bush. I mean really the impending doom of the deficit is his fault.

****ing moron! and my moronic country re-elected him! It's so freaking embarassing.

 

[The Overlord]

we might have, if not for Bush. I mean really the impending doom of the deficit is his fault.

****ing moron! and my moronic country re-elected him! It's so freaking embarassing.

I doubt it, the Roman Empire was the world's premier super power for a 1000 years and it fell and was replaced by someone else. Sure it took a 1000 years, but it happened. This cycle has existed for 10,000 years, its naive to assume the US is immune to it.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

America being in financial crisis?Its something ive heard about before,personally its their own fault if they are too lazy to do anything about it.As for the world also going down with the USA?I sort of doubt that,Europe has its ways of surviving.

 

[War Lord]

Perhaps but it is somewhat inevatible that the US one day be replaced by another power. Great powers rise, use or abuse their power, then decline and fall, only to be replaced by another great power. Its a cycle that has existed since the dawn of civilization and it would be naive to assume that the US would break this cycle.

Powers tend to fall, because the people within the empire stop believing in why the empire was established.

 

[The Overlord]

Powers tend to fall, because the people within the empire stop believing in why the empire was established.

I'm surprised you called the US an empire just now.

Really now, I thought Rome fell because it has conquered by Germaniac tribes and the British declined because of the costs and damages caused by the World Wars.

Besides its almost a universial that great powers breed hubris in their borders due to their status as great powers and this hubris allows them to blind sided by someone else.

 

[War Lord]

Not revenge.

Justice! t:

You can't give justice to the dead.

You don't need justice yourself.

 

[KingOfDreams]

As far as I've gathered, we import far more than we export. Other countries create the vast amount of our consumer goods as well. All of this, compounded with the insane amount of spending done on the wars and the tax cuts that favor the rich...yes, I believe we have a problem. As far as how it would affect the rest of the world, yes I do believe that some countries could be greatly affected...like India and China for example, who make a ton of the aformentioned consumer goods.

 

[War Lord]

I'm surprised you called the US an empire just now.

Really now, I thought Rome fell because it has conquered by Germaniac tribes and the British declined because of the costs and damages caused by the World Wars.

Besides its almost a universial that great powers breed hubris in their borders due to their status as great powers and this hubris allows them to blind sided by someone else.

I'm not calling the US an empire, but it does share something in common with empires of the past.

If Rome had been as unified towards the end as it was in the beginning, it's unlikely that the Germanic tribes and other enemies could have conquered it. It was because Romans stopped believing in Rome's ideals that was ultimately behind its downfall.

 

[redmarvel]

As America fails, other countries will pick up the slack. It's just the way the world works... no what scares me is THIS article:

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/art...AS025767_RTRUKOC_0_UK-ENVIRONMENT-BRITAIN.xml

Major warning sounded on climate change

... call for urgent action on climate change on Monday after a hard-hitting report painted an apocalyptic picture of the economic and environmental fallout from further global warming.

The report said failing to tackle climate change could push world temperatures up by 5 degrees Celsius (9 Fahrenheit) over the next century, causing severe floods and harsh droughts and potentially uprooting as many as 200 million people.

But the author, former World Bank chief economist Nicholas Stern, said if action is taken now the benefits of determined worldwide steps to tackle global warming will massively outweigh the economic and human costs.

 

[lazur]

I have an idea. How about all countries that have ever borrowed money (or been given money for free) from the U.S. give it ALL back?

Yeah, well there's your answer. The U.S. will never go broke. There are too many countries who owe us money for it to happen.

 

[maxwell's demon]

newsmax.:heart:

I have an idea. How about all countries that have ever borrowed money (or been given money for free) from the U.S. give it ALL back?

Yeah, well there's your answer. The U.S. will never go broke. There are too many countries who owe us money for it to happen.

I also think that all the countries we squeezed under the auspices of "trade deals" should get to squeeze us back.


EDIT: wheres that 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' link?

EDIT EDIT:"(or been given money for free)"?

 

[Mr Sparkle]

EDIT EDIT:"(or been given money for free)"?

yeah, that's a puzzler there.

 

[Dangerous]

Bring back the Bomb!

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I'm not calling the US an empire, but it does share something in common with empires of the past.

If Rome had been as unified towards the end as it was in the beginning, it's unlikely that the Germanic tribes and other enemies could have conquered it. It was because Romans stopped believing in Rome's ideals that was ultimately behind its downfall.

LOL that's not it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Work? Why work when we will have white slaves for the next 400 years.

Karma x2. lolz!

You want to own slaves?

 

[maxwell's demon]

blind fury's mad racist, yo.

 

[Darthphere]

blind fury's mad racist, yo.

Mad daps.

 

[Dangerous]

Hope if it does happen my country is excluded.