We could be in big-time trouble - worldwide speaking

[War Lord]

Big country, since when was Cambodia big?

It's about 70,000 square miles. It's still above average in size.

 

[The Overlord]

It's about 70,000 square miles. It's still above average in size.

I said big, not above average.

 

[maxwell's demon]

Interesting but irrelevant, China still controls most the US' debt and so if the US calls in the debt from other nations, you better believe China will do the same.

Japan doesn't control more than China?

 

[War Lord]

I said big, not above average.

Big is above average, therefore above average is also big.

 

[The Overlord]

Japan doesn't control more than China?

I don't know, maybe, it doesn't matter, what matters is through debt Asia is gaining more control over the US.

 

[The Overlord]

Big is above average, therefore above average is also big.

I say big, I mean the largest country in the region, not one of the runner ups. Seriously your attempt at humour has failed, get over it.

 

[lazur]

is that your answer to my post?

No, my answer is that I'm not going to read the book, but that I believe the premise of the concern the book has.

But I don't think it's only a problem of the U.S., or that the U.S. has the only system of government that falls victim to "corruption", as the book seems to assert at short glance.

 

[War Lord]

I say big, I mean the largest country in the region, not one of the runner ups. Seriously your attempt at humour has failed, get over it.

You never said the largest country in the region, you merely said big.

Get over your error.

 

[The Overlord]

You never said the largest country in the region, you merely said big.

Get over your error.

Whatever, this joke has long since become played out.

 

[maxwell's demon]

No, my answer is that I'm not going to read the book, but that I believe the premise of the concern the book has.

But I don't think it's only a problem of the U.S., or that the U.S. has the only system of government that falls victim to "corruption", as the book seems to assert at short glance.

Can i ask from where you inferred that, Lazur? I don't think i ever got that, and don't see it asserting that even at short glance.

I ask in part because, especially as of late, I've noticed a trend in your posts to take any criticism, especially self-criticism (i.e. of our country) to be a sweeping indicitment thereof, while at the same time absolving every other nation of all crimes and misdemeanors.

And i don't think anyone here really thinks that, and i don't think Perkins is saying that either.

At the same time, If indeed we are the greatest world power, as you yourself have asserted in the past, shoudln't we likewise be held the othe greatest degree of responsiblity?

 

[War Lord]

Whatever, this joke has long since become played out.

It would have not been played at all, if you had only admitted your error.

 

[The Overlord]

It would have not been played at all, if you had only admitted your error.

I made an error while I was trying to be cute and not serious. Ohhh, its the end of the world.

You knew which country I was talking about, you were just trying to be glib. This is an very stupid conversation, I suggest we move on to more important points.

 

[War Lord]

I made an error while I was trying to be cute and not serious. Ohhh, its the end of the world.

You knew which country I was talking about, you were just trying to be glib. This is an very stupid conversation, I suggest we have on to more important points.

It takes two to converse.

 

[maxwell's demon]

omg jonty please.

 

[The Overlord]

It takes two to converse.

Dude just drop this point, its getting really silly now.

 

[War Lord]

omg jonty please.

Please, join in.

 

[KingOfDreams]

i prefer wiki and learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._public_debt

edit: this seems to sum up most of what i'd been reading about: http://www.lilithgallery.com/articles/china_winning_tradewar.html

Wiki, by it's very nature, is inherantly inaccurate. However, that doesn't mean that everything on the site is wrong.

 

[maxwell's demon]

i never said i only used wiki.

and wiki, by its very nature, self corrects; and it also provides sources to its articles (usually) so that you can check the accuracy yourself.

 

[SpiderJerus]

99% of human suffering is due to bad government suffering and dictatorialships, not anything that the Western world is doing.

Effectively removing Western world standard of living is not going to make the world a better place.

There is not going to be a restart. If it ends, it's going to end and end badly.

Wow, you're clearly uneducated on this matter. Granted the tyrany of leadership is a huge, huge problem for much of the suffering world, but a great deal of those tyrants would never be able to rule the way they do without the support of the West. The Western governments ignore the human rights wrongs being commited so that Western industry can have free reign over the resources of those nations, whether they be oil, diamonds, etc. The West "is" the problem, make no mistake. For instance, my government (the Canadian government) ignored the travesties being commited in Darfur so that a Calgary energy company by the name of Talisman forked scores of dollars to war lords ruling the area in exchange for the right to drill. Not only that, but Talisman was being threatened to be taken to court for complicity in genocide and war crimes. A Canadian company right in my own back yard. Talisman pulled out of Darfur just recently due to demand by a great number of human rights groups.

That's just one example. Don't ever, ever blame all the suffering of the third world on something as ridiculous as their being lazy. It's quite possibly one of the most ignorant statements anyone could make.

 

[SpiderJerus]

I have an idea. How about all countries that have ever borrowed money (or been given money for free) from the U.S. give it ALL back?

Yeah, well there's your answer. The U.S. will never go broke. There are too many countries who owe us money for it to happen.

Hey, here's an idea. Maybe you can take all of those countries to the World Court just like Nicaragua did when the Reagan administration was executing people. And when the World Court finds them guilty and demands payment or repairations, they can just ignore the ruling. Just like the states did...ahem.