Wga Strike: Make The Call!

I think a union killed a family member of yours, since you're so obsessed with being against them

Here in connecticut there has always been conflict between certain industries and the unions......and for the past few years every time a strike or stoppage happens, public support for the union gets smaller and smaller
 
I was all for the WGA fighting for a reasonable piece of the pie. the writers certainly deserve it. What I'm against is that they go into negotiations asking for residuals and suddenly they also want control over reality shows (which, in and of itself, is ridiculous) and animated shows.

Way I see it, the WGA is hardly as noble as it tries to picture itself. They say it's all about the little guys, when those demands pretty much prove this strike is just politics and a power struggle.
 
About the shows that last 6 episodes and get canned, they aren't included in the residuals.

The residual formula is a method were the writer takes part in the risk of any new project (movies and tv shows). If it's not a success, the writer makes do with what the studio paid for the project.
 
I still think that the studios/networks are taking a siege mentality and trying to stop the floodgates..IMO
 
But I thought the networks could pretty much only hire union members? Arent animated shows a part of that?
 
most animated shows arent produced by networks, but by studios who then make deals with the networks to air the shows
 
Studios Walk Out of Strike Talks

Hopes of a resolution of the Hollywood writers' strike before the holidays were dashed Friday night as studio negotiators angrily walked out of talks, accusing negotiators for the writers of being incompetent and self-serving. In a statement, the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers said: "The WGA organizers sitting across the table from us have never concluded even one industry accord." It added that the WGA negotiators were determined to advance their "personal agendas at the expense of working writers and every other working person who depends on our industry for their livelihoods." Ironically, talks appeared to collapse not over issues related to the writers' demands for increased payment for Internet distribution and DVD sales -- which were said to be the primary issues in the strike -- but over the writers' demands concerning reality TV shows and animated fare. In a statement released Friday night, WGA negotiator John Bowman said, "We remain ready and willing to negotiate, no matter how intransigent our bargaining partners are, because the stakes are simply too high. ... We were prepared to counter their proposal tonight, and when any of them are ready to return to the table, we're here, ready to make a fair deal." But in an interview with Daily Variety Bowman added, "We wound up being engaged in fake negotiations. I suspect they're trying to do this so that writers will suffer during the holiday season." Analysts have concluded that much now depends on whether early negotiations begin with the Directors Guild of America. A deal on the Internet -- or "new media," as the negotiators call it -- between the producers and directors would likely (but, as Variety pointed out today, not necessarily) set a precedent for similar deals with actors and, in the end, writers as well.
 
Goddamn studios. Hopefully they'll soon learn just how important writers are to Hollywood.
 
from all the different sources i've been reading there seems to be issues with both sides...the writers want their residuals, but the studios would like some concessions from the writers as well......a negotiation is not one sided, both parties have to make adjustments
 
well, basically, the studios want to ream the writers and want the writers to bend over and smile
 
NEW YORK (Media Week) - Fourth-ranked broadcaster NBC has quietly begun reimbursing advertisers an average of $500,000 each for failing to reach guaranteed ratings levels, the first time a network has taken such a step in years, media buyers said.

Networks usually offer make-goods -- free advertising slots -- in the event of such shortfalls. But NBC has none to give. In fact, no broadcast network has much ad inventory left between now and year's end -- except for, perhaps, a handful of units the week between Christmas and New Year's, and that doesn't do much for advertisers chasing holiday shoppers.
CBS, ABC and Fox also are doling out make-goods, primarily for the first quarter. They have blamed softness on a new ratings formula, but media agencies disagree. None of the networks would comment.
The networks' problems emerged even before the Writers Guild of America went on strike November 5. The networks had enough first-run shows to get them through November, and repeats and replacement programming will not begin in earnest until January -- when their problems will likely start to worsen.
Among the Big Four networks, NBC has the most serious ad shortfall, as its primetime ratings are down most dramatically. Meanwhile, none of its new series this season have caught on with viewers. Compounding buyers' angst about NBC is the network's plan to schedule more reality shows, including "Celebrity Apprentice" and "American Gladiators."
"We're trying to understand NBC's recent moves," Starcom Entertainment exec vp Laura Caraccioli-Davis said. "We are concerned that it might be thinking about adopting a programming strategy like some of its sister cable networks. 'American Gladiators' and even some of the shows they have in development, like 'Knight Rider,' are remakes being dusted off rather than coming up with new creations.



"NBC used to be the upscale, quality network," she added. "We have come to expect quality, iconic programming. Maybe they are searching for the reality hit they don't have, their own 'American Idol.' But too much reality just doesn't play well with advertisers."
NBC program planning president Vince Manze countered that the network will air more scripted shows in the first quarter than it did a year earlier, so the perception that NBC is moving more heavily into reality is wrong.
"We will have about 85 hours of original, scripted, first-run programming in the first quarter," Manze said, citing the return of dramas "Law & Order," "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (which previously aired on NBC's sister cable net USA Network) and "Medium."


In February, NBC will premiere midseason drama "Lipstick Jungle." It also has first-run episodes of "Law & Order: SVU," "ER," "Chuck," "Friday Night Lights," "Las Vegas," "Scrubs" and "My Name Is Earl" yet to air.
Magna Global audience analysis exec vp Steve Sternberg said he saw no problem with NBC airing a reality block on a low-rated night like Saturday or even during the week if the production values were high or if it replaced other reality programming. However, "if it replaces midweek scripted hours, it could have a negative impact" on ratings and audience quality, he said.
Reality programs featuring high production values, including Fox's "American Idol," CBS' "Survivor" and "Amazing Race" and ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" and "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," draw sizable audiences each week.


Still, one network executive charged that audiences for those shows are "borrowed" viewers. "A majority of those viewers come in for that show and then leave," the executive said.
Added MediaVest senior vp group director Ed Gentner: "No one (advertiser or agency) wants to see too much reality programming on TV. But broadcast television has changed, and reality is part of today's landscape."


Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
 
Stewart/Colbert ’08

Variety Magazine said:
According to insiders, trademark features like Stewart's "Headlines" and Colbert's "The Word" will obviously have to take a break since they're heavily scripted.

Instead, it appears the shows will try to work around the missing writers (and the guild rules that bar anything that's traditionally the domain of scribes) by relying heavily on pretaped segments from the field.

In many of those cases, the segments are produced and edited by non-WGA members. That would still seemingly prevent correspondents who are WGA members from participating, but it's believed that some of the show's contributors are with the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, rather than the WGA. (In addition, "The Daily Show" has occasionally run pieces by individuals who are not regular contributors.)


I think its ballsy that these guys are coming back on the air without writers. Writers arent the only ones that need to eat, doing this will save a lot of jobs. :up:
 
Those who agreed to strike,will regret it.I hear that some are actually trying to bypass the union and get the writers back to work themselfs.I think some have been fired already.
 
I feel sorry for all the collateral damage that is being caused here. People that only get paid a fraction of what these greedy ass writers get paid are being fired around christmas time. There are a lot of Tiny Tims in hollywood this year.:csad:
 
some of the writers are looking to deal with shows directly....that seems a bit better than having the WGA and the amptp having a pissing contest
 
You're always told what to do in order to support a strike, but what do you do when you don't support it?

Like the Kroger's strike a few years ago: "Honk if you support the strike!" the signs the lazy people outside the store would say.

...what do I do if I don't, though? I think we need a second horn in our cars that mean "I don't support your laziness." :)
 
I support the writers getting their piece....I DO NOT support the WGA...
 
Stewart/Colbert ’08




I think its ballsy that these guys are coming back on the air without writers. Writers arent the only ones that need to eat, doing this will save a lot of jobs. :up:

I don't support it. Without the union writers the shows' quality will suffer. Their really just limping on.

God I want the strike to end soon.
 
Picketing the Grammy's? Seriously? You're going after music now?

I hate the WGA.
 
I don't support it. Without the union writers the shows' quality will suffer. Their really just limping on.

God I want the strike to end soon.

It should end around 20 weeks like the previous strikes ('88 n '60). Hopefully.

So far Colbert Report has been great without the writers. Since the show started it never went after Hollywood actors so the guest lineup hasn't been as lame as Conan's (an anchor from Today Weekend is his first guest? Late Night is essentially another outlet for the news division now.) Of course they only have to fill 22 minutes four nights a week while Conan has to kill 44 minutes 5 nights a week.
 
They lost my support when they started coming on Leno and interrupting the show by screaming out jibberish as loud as they could when guests tried to speak. If they start doing this on Conan I will get really pissed.:(
 

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