Civil War What are the rosters going to be?

[Protar]

Spoiler

Vision joned Caps new Avengers. He will 100% be on Caps side.

The rumours I've seen suggest he will side with Stark.

I don't think we should take the New Avengers as an indication of who will be siding with Cap. I think a big part of Civil War will be that team being torn apart. Cap, Widow and Falcon will go anti-reg, War Machine, (and according to rumours) Vision and Scarlet Witch will go pro-reg with Stark.

 

[ernesth100]

The more I think about this the more I think they're gonna turn Stark into a villain for Civil War. He's been the cause of half his own villains Iron Monger, Whiplash, Justin Hammer Drones, Ultron all came from Stark tech. This is probably the point where he goes full on villain.

 

[Lilbaz]

The rumours I've seen suggest he will side with Stark.

I don't think we should take the New Avengers as an indication of who will be siding with Cap. I think a big part of Civil War will be that team being torn apart. Cap, Widow and Falcon will go anti-reg, War Machine, (and according to rumours) Vision and Scarlet Witch will go pro-reg with Stark.

After SW speech in AOU

Spoiler

That Tony would do whatever it takes to save the world even if that meant destroying it. I think she'll go with Cap.

 

[ThePhantasm]

The more I think about this the more I think they're gonna turn Stark into a villain for Civil War. He's been the cause of half his own villains Iron Monger, Whiplash, Justin Hammer Drones, Ultron all came from Stark tech. This is probably the point where he goes full on villain.

 

[ernesth100]

They better find a good damn reason for everyone who sides with Tony. Because I sure as hell can't find one.

 

[Lilbaz]

They better find a good damn reason for everyone who sides with Tony. Because I sure as hell can't find one.

We don't even know what the sides are and what the different arguments are. This is not the comics each side will have convincing arguments and justification for their views.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I don't think Tony's necessarily turning into a villain; it's more like he's becoming a paranoid billionaire with good intentions but bad outcomes, almost like a Howard Hughes-type.

 

[Protar]

They better find a good damn reason for everyone who sides with Tony. Because I sure as hell can't find one.

Depends on how totalitarian he becomes. I hope they tone it down a bit from the comics. I mean certainly on the surface the idea that superheroes should have to be held accountable to some higher power is perfectly reasonable. It's basically vigilante justice on a larger scale. That's pretty much why they make Stark's view so extreme. If it were more moderate it would be very hard to justify how such power could be privatised.

 

[ernesth100]

I didn't get any of that but if I did I think I'd agree.

 

[Protar]

After SW speech in AOU

Spoiler

That Tony would do whatever it takes to save the world even if that meant destroying it. I think she'll go with Cap.

I'm just saying that I've seen some rumours suggesting she goes with Stark. I think it works. I mean the whole deal with Civil War is Stark trying to change from his past behaviour. On the one hand SW was very anti-stark at the start of AOU. But she's gotten over that for the most part I would think, now that she's an Avenger. But remember that the Sokovians - including the twins - weren't happy with the Avengers flying about doing as they pleased. So it makes sense that she would want to keep that sort of behaviour in check and be pro-reg, even if she doesn't like Stark much.

 

[Surfer]

So, are we 100% sure no Hulk or Thor will be present during Civil War, I mean I know how things were left in AOU, but still? If they were in it then I would also like to see Scott Lang get new technology from Hank Pym that allows him to transform into Giant Man. However, without the power of Hulk or Thor I think Giant Man could make the team he is on seem a little lopsided, so perhaps waiting for Giant Man in Infinity War might be the better option and stick with Ant-man. So, I guess my ideal roster would look like this.

Anti-Registration

Cap
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Falcon
Black Panther
Spider-man
Hulk
Daredevil
Ant Man / Giant Man
Winter Soldier
Sharon Carter
Quake
Nick Fury

Pro-Registration

Iron-Man
War Machine
Thor
Vision
Scarlet Witch
CrossBones
Abomination
Thunderbolt Ross
Maria Hill
Mockingbird
Deathlok
S.H.I.E.L.D.

Of course in my Ideal world the movie is 3 1/2 Hours too, so the story and characters have plenty of time to be developed. I know it will never happen, but hey don't mess with a fantasy. Lol!

Surfer

 

[Repulsor Blast]

The rumours I've seen suggest he will side with Stark.

I don't think we should take the New Avengers as an indication of who will be siding with Cap. I think a big part of Civil War will be that team being torn apart. Cap, Widow and Falcon will go anti-reg, War Machine, (and according to rumours) Vision and Scarlet Witch will go pro-reg with Stark.

If those are the rosters then anti-reg are a lot more powerful...

 

[AnneFan]

 

[Protar]

If those are the rosters then anti-reg are a lot more powerful...

It will make Cap the underdog and force him to go underground when the SHRA starts getting more extreme.

 

[ernesth100]

So, are we 100% sure no Hulk or Thor will be present during Civil War, I mean I know how things were left in AOU, but still? If they were in it then I would also like to see Scott Lang get new technology from Hank Pym that allows him to transform into Giant Man. However, without the power of Hulk or Thor I think Giant Man could make the team he is on seem a little lopsided, so perhaps waiting for Giant Man in Infinity War might be the better option and stick with Ant-man. So, I guess my ideal roster would look like this.

Anti-Registration

Cap
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Falcon
Black Panther
Spider-man
Hulk
Daredevil
Ant Man / Giant Man
Winter Soldier
Sharon Carter
Quake
Nick Fury

Pro-Registration

Iron-Man
War Machine
Thor
Vision
Scarlet Witch
CrossBones
Abomination
Thunderbolt Ross
Maria Hill
Mockingbird
Deathlok
S.H.I.E.L.D.

Of course in my Ideal world the movie is 3 1/2 Hours too, so the story and characters have plenty of time to be developed. I know it will never happen, but hey don't mess with a fantasy. Lol!

Surfer

That is literally the dream right. There, it's stupid that Hollywood seems afraid to make 3 hour long movies. Maybe it will end up being 3 hours but they'll cut out the unimportant bits and include it in the DVD, probably same situation for AoU considering there was an hour of footage they didn't use.

 

[Loki882]

I'm leaning towards Thor and Hulk NOT being involved:

Spoiler

Thor going back to Asgard at the end of AOU, and Hulk disappearing were ways of taking them "off of the board" for CW.

 

[Loki882]

The more I think about this the more I think they're gonna turn Stark into a villain for Civil War. He's been the cause of half his own villains Iron Monger, Whiplash, Justin Hammer Drones, Ultron all came from Stark tech. This is probably the point where he goes full on villain.

That would be a HORRIBLE idea. Like the worst thing that they could possibly do. Also, he wasn't responsible for Iron Monger, Whiplash, and only partially responsible for Ultron.

 

[Surfer]

I'm leaning towards Thor and Hulk NOT being involved:

Spoiler

Thor going back to Asgard at the end of AOU, and Hulk disappearing were ways of taking them "off of the board" for CW.

I'm pretty sure your right, and they will already have a lot of other characters they will need to juggle, so can't say I would blame them for not wanting to add to the list.

Surfer

 

[MbJ]

People still think Marvel is going to turn its most popular cinematic property into a villain.

 

[Ironfan72]

They have said numerous times Stark will not be a villain, that audiences will see both sides of the reason for the war, neither side is right nor wrong.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

They are going to make the issue of the split be like people disagreeing on a political issue. It'll be shades of gray where both parties are right and wrong at the same time.

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah well, that's what they said about the Civil War comic too

its inevitable one side will come out looking better than the other side
if anything, I think Stark/RDJ's likeability/popularity will make him better able to recover from acting in shady ways and taking a semi-villainous turn
He was shady as s*** in AoU, and yet still came out likeable in the end

this is hollywood we're talkin about, it's not gonna be some nuanced politically-themed debate between Cap and IM
chances are, Tony takes the wrong-ish side, and they come back together by the end

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think Cap's position will be portrayed as more right than Stark's will be (it is HIS movie afterall), but I don't think Stark will be an outright villain. That role goes to Zemo, and is why he is in the movie. So that Iron Man is NOT turned into an outright villain.

 

[Protar]

I agree that Tony will be portrayed as more in the wrong, but he won't be an outright villain. To be honest Tony's side has to be a bit of a strawman for the plot to work, because Superhero Registration is completely reasonable on the surface. The law doesn't allow vigilante justice, why would it allow vigilante justice with super serums and military grade weaponry?

 

[Protar]

Also, there is a difference between an antagonist and a villain. Stark will be the antagonist of Civil War, because it's supposed to be a Cap film not an Avengers film - ergo our sympathies will be positioned with him, and we'll see things through his perspective.

I honestly don't expect a major role from Zemo. I think he'll more just be pulling the strings behind the scenes, perhaps setting him up for a larger role in later films. *cough*Thunderbolts*cough*.