The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What Did You Not Like?(Spoilers!!!)

[Spider-Aziz]

I've also read people say that the

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birth of Electro is corny.
Nobody complained when they did pretty much THE SAME THING in The Spectacular Spider-Man.

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I don't like any telling of how Electro gained his powers

 

[Thoix]

I'll make this easy: The only things I liked were Andrew & Gwen chemistry and

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Gwen's death

I either disliked or HATED everything else.

 

[Victarion]

I didn't like how Spider-Man gained his powers. Bit by a spider? come on, now.

What sort of lines did Electro have?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Wait?? What?? Can someone explain this one?

That is one of my complaints, Spidey's power levels vary greatly in this movie, in the same scene it takes him 2 punches to punch through a windshield, he also stops a skidding bus from hitting a family by stopping it with his strength.

Later on he catches a flying car and virtually tosses it away after. I think they need to make their mind up on his power levels in this series as so far they cant.

 

[Morbius]

That is one of my complaints, Spidey's power levels vary greatly in this movie, in the same scene it takes him 2 punches to punch through a windshield, he also stops a skidding bus from hitting a family by stopping it with his strength.

Later on he catches a flying car and virtually tosses it away after. I think they need to make their mind up on his power levels in this series as so far they cant.

Well...it was my belief that the windshield is bullet proof, after all, it's a getaway vehicle designed for ramming through traffic and enduring police fire. If a bullet can't make it through that windshield, it's actually pretty remarkable that Spidey is able to dent it at all, and he does. At least from what I remember.

 

[Daywalker89]

That is one of my complaints, Spidey's power levels vary greatly in this movie, in the same scene it takes him 2 punches to punch through a windshield, he also stops a skidding bus from hitting a family by stopping it with his strength.

Later on he catches a flying car and virtually tosses it away after. I think they need to make their mind up on his power levels in this series as so far they cant.

Took the words right out of my mouth brother.

 

[Morbius]

Bulletproof glass. There.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Took the words right out of my mouth brother.

I thought his power levels varied a lot in the 1st movie as well, I wish they would make up their minds. In the Raimi movies his power levels were pretty consistant.

Bulletproof glass. There.

A guy who can catch a flying car then toss it away like its nothing shouldnt have any problems punching through glass, even if its bulletproof.

Overall its a minor complaint, but one that bugged me all the same.

 

[Morbius]

A guy who can catch a flying car then toss it away like its nothing shouldnt have any problems punching through glass, even if its bulletproof.

A bullet which focuses high velocity and therefore enormous pressure on a small surface area can't break that glass, much less blunt force from man who can lift a tonne on a wider surface area. The energy from his punch is exacted on a larger surface area, so that also is working against him. He's not Thor, he has his limits.

 

[The Joker]

A bullet has not got the strength to hold a car, or stop a bus full of people. But Spidey can't break bulletproof glass with two punches? Yeah ok.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A bullet which focuses high velocity and therefore enormous pressure on a small surface area can't break that glass, much less blunt force from man who can lift a tonne on a wider surface area. The energy from his punch is exacted on a larger surface area, so that also is working against him. He's not Thor, he has his limits.

I know who Spiderman is, been a fan since I was a kid, I know he isnt all powerful, but in Times Square he caught a flying car while also doing a somersault catching it, then flung it away like it was nothing, it wasnt an effort for him what-so-ever. So punching through bullett-proof glass shouldnt be either IMO.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A bullet has not got the strength to hold a car, or stop a bus full of people. But Spidey can't break bulletproof glass with two punches? Yeah ok.

it was a bad inconsistency IMO.

 

[Morbius]

A bullet has not got the strength to hold a car, or stop a bus full of people. But Spidey can't break bulletproof glass with two punches? Yeah ok.

No, it's simple science and how force applied to a small surface area works vs force applied to a wider surface area - the energy is spread out more. Look it up. Yeah ok.

 

[The Joker]

it was a bad inconsistency IMO.

Indeed it was.

No, it's simple science and how force applied to a small surface area works vs force applied to a wider surface area - the energy is spread out more. Look it up. Yeah ok.

I'm well aware of that Scientific principle, but the point that keeps flying over your head is the force of Spidey's fist is greater than any concentrated force of a bullet because Spidey is stronger than any bullet or the force any gun can appply to a bullet. So when Spidey's fist punches something, the force of that punch is concentrated on one area. It's not spread out. He should have been able to break that glass with ease.

Yeah ok.

 

[Spider-Fan]

No, it's simple science and how force applied to a small surface area works vs force applied to a wider surface area - the energy is spread out more. Look it up. Yeah ok.

If he can land on his feet and fling a car off his shoulders, he should be able to punch through bullet proof glass. Should come with the whole strength of a spider thing.

 

[LizardMan07]

Maybe he wasn't trying to break the window? Wasn't that where he ws trying to get Alexsi to wind the thing down?

 

[Morbius]

The point i'm making is that it is spread out - it's the same reason why a punch doesn't stab through people but a knife does, when both are applied with equal force on the subject.

Where lifting the car is concerned, he's basically doing an overhead press/squat, and with the vehicle in that position it allows him to exert the strength of his legs, back, arms and shoulders. That's going to be easier than punching through reinforced glass for Spidey. Yeah ok.

 

[LizardMan07]

wait but a fist isn't sharp like a knife right? Or am I missing something?

I'm not good with the whole physics thing, I never did any physics really, mainly biochemistry

 

[Morbius]

wait but a fist isn't sharp like a knife right? Or am I missing something?

I'm not good with the whole physics thing, I never did any physics really, mainly biochemistry

Nope, and basically the pressure is exerted on a wider surface area with a fist than with a bullet or knife, so the energy is spread out more. It's the same reason why walking on ice with tennis rackets on your feet is less likely to break the ice than simply your feet - the same pressure is being exerted on a larger surface area.

 

[The Joker]

If he can land on his feet and fling a car off his shoulders, he should be able to punch through bullet proof glass. Should come with the whole strength of a spider thing.

Exactly.

The point i'm making is that it is spread out - it's the same reason why a punch doesn't stab through people but a knife does, when both are applied with equal force on the subject.

Where lifting the car is concerned, he's basically doing an overhead press/squat, and with the vehicle in that position it allows him to exert the strength of his legs, back, arms and shoulders. That's going to be easier than punching through reinforced glass for Spidey. Yeah ok.

The point we're making is Spider-Man has the strength to put his fist through someone if he wanted to, just like he could and should be able to put his fist through bulletproof glass because again he has the super strength to. If he can lift a car and stop a bus, he can easily muster the force in a punch to shatter bulletproof glass.

You keep comparing normal people's abilities with a fist or a knife or the force of a bullet to Spider-Man's strength which is far greater than any of those. If the force is great enough, it will penetrate it. And Spider-Man has enough force to hold a car up, and stop a bus. And you're here trying to tell us he can't put enough force in a punch to break a bulletproof windshield?

Yeah ok.

 

[matt47]

O M G

Okay everyone, yes, Spidey should've been able to punch through the glass. But if he did we would'nt have had that awesome spidey sense scene!! oh and did anyone else notice when he saves the bus and the asian guy says something to him and spidey speaks in that language? I thought it was cool and really showed what Andrew was talking about. (Spidey can be anyone)

 

[Alex_Spider]

This guy makes very good points about what works and what is wrong with this movie.
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[First Avenger]

-Max was cringe-worthy
-the score was terrible in spots
-a tad too long

The rest I liked/loved.

 

[matt47]

I actually wished it went for longer.

 

[DACrowe]

Honestly most of the problems stem from the script or at least studio mandated scenes. There are too many villains, subplots--does anyone really care how Richard and Mary Parker died or how their research made Spider-Man Peter's destiny (which kind of fumbles the whole point of the character on top of everything else?--and just too many scenes that didn't work.

When the movie was allowed to be what it actually should be: Peter and Gwen, and Spider-Man being a smart-ass, it worked quite well.

The one exception where it is totally the fault of the direction would be the introduction to Electro and the Dr. Kafka stuff. Webb does know that not many people like Schumaucher's Batman, right? But those scenes were minor enough that they did not hurt the film per se. Perhaps, they made Electro come off as a weak character, but as he is ultimately secondary to Harry, that did not matter so much.