What do you hate about comic books?

The Ultimate Line pre-dated most of the comic movies.

The X-Men? Bout all that influenced was a brief period of leather. Personality wise? No change at all.

Only one character had change influenced greatly due to a movie, and that was Blade. And lets face it, that was definitely for the better.
 
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The Ultimate line was created as a way of re-booting Marvel's franchises to be more movie-ready. Sorry, I've been a reader too many years to start all over, I say make movies based on 616.
 
They didn't make the Ultimate line to make Marvel's franchises "more movie-ready" they did it cuz they thought they could make some money by putting a new spin on an old concept. And they did.

Also, I forgot Spider-Man. Spider-Man? Where do you get that s**t? When the Spidey movies were coming out, Spidey was married, Aunt May knew he was Spider-Man, and he was a Science Teacher. I'm pretty sure I didn't see any of that s**t in any of Rami's films.
 
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Yeah, I'm with 'Nubs; I don't think the Ultimate line was made to specifically catch movie goers who came to comics that way, but just 'new readers' in general.

EDIT: And I see I misread what was being said, so nevermind, but my statement is still true :o
 
I doubt anyone will disagree with you, we all want cheaper comics. :p

Though, in all seriousness, I do believe comic book prices have been raising well past inflation
 
I've just about stopped getting comics on a monthly basis due to prices.
 
Iron Man, no. X-Men, Spider-Man, the creation of the "Ultimate" line, on the other hand...

The Ultimate Line has little to do with the movies at all. Raimi's Spider-Man films are more like Spider-Man: The Animated Series than they are like Ultimate Spider-Man, there's really no similarities between the X-Men films and Ultimate X-Men, and the only cross over from Ultimates to the Avengers' films is Sam Jackson as Nick Fury, and that's just a really good casting choice. Oh yes, and The Hulk being tangentially tied to the Super Soldier project. But thats it. The main stream X-Men at the time of the films, as was mentioned, did switch to leather outfits, but they were completely different leather outfits, and the storylines and characters were unrelated. Spider-Man briefly got organic webshooters after the films, but that's it. Nothing really changed in Spider-Man besides that. And the OMD decision to regress his story a few decades was unrelated to the films.
 
I doubt anyone will disagree with you, we all want cheaper comics. :p

Though, in all seriousness, I do believe comic book prices have been raising well past inflation
It doesn't help that Marvel initially said they had to raise prices due to printing costs, but then later admitted they only raised prices to see if they could get away with it, and kept doing so because they can. I'm not opposed to business growth, but it's a ****** thing to lie to your fans, especially in an industry like comics.
 
If i had to pick anything I hated about comics, it would of course be the outragious prices, and just how short they can be.
 
1. The cost, they are way too expensive. It cost way too much for the short amount of pages you're getting. Four or five dollars for a book, when most paperback novels are only four dollars more? (Though I bemoan the cost of paperback novels too, but that's another discussion).

2. The dearth of non-white male headlining characters. (And the unwillingness of a majority of the comic buying audience to embracing or giving these heroes/heroines a chance).

3. The half-hearted, incompetent, or somewhat resistant attempts by the comic companies to actually create or promote the potential non-white male headliners they have.

4. Inaccessibility of comics. At one time it seemed like you could get comics anywhere, now you have to go to a comic books store. It's just one extra step that some potential fans might not want to make, or they might not have access to a store.

5. Reliance on gimmicks, such as 'major deaths' that are reversed in months, if not weeks, or turn out to be not be deaths at all.
 
My issues with errum..issues:

-Overpricing on everything, even minis

-Death in comics. Now ok, we always had the "if there's no body, s/he's not dead" thing and the returns, but lately death being handled in comics is TERRIBLE. It's a cheap overused gimmick and it's being used as a plot device instead of a piece of an emotional arc and a heartfelt-gripping event. It's often gratuitous, disgusting, and needlessly crass; "okay, __ is a badguy, but did we need to see him murder ___child on panel?!" It's all becoming very shockvalue oriented and that's a terrible way to go about things. It's all about one upping the shock factor rather than nurturing the character development and story. It's now (at least in my opinion) handled like "hmm, ok, so we need to make a sappy emotional moment because this arc is getting terrible reviews...okay! What would disgust our readers? Prometheus killing a bunch of people and have a tragic shot of someone cradling a dead child's body! Genius!"

It's my belief that death in fiction can be handled beautifully and with some real depth, but that's not the only way to challenge a hero or to tug at heart strings. I'm not saying that bad guys should be little rascals, but at the same time

-The uncomfortable addition of rape in certain stories;
I remember around the time Spider-man and Black Cat: Evil That Men Do (by Kevin Smith) came out, but I never read it. Fast forward to this year and I'm reading about comic articles; this title comes up and has some rather odd revelations about Felicia. Pretty much the book says she was sexually assaulted and that's why she became tough. The article also touched upon how some tough female characters have their strength and determination come from a past assault. I just found Smith adding that to Felicia's background to be wholly unnecessary. Oh and.....Identity Crisis. :dry:

-Crossovers/Events constantly throughout the year;
I like when these things are spaced out over time. When you have something new every couple of months, you can't effectively build up something great. Plus it's annoying and claustrophobic. Sometimes, I just want a couple nice self contained stories instead of an exhaustive multi-title branching smorgasbord.
 
I think DC does some of the titles about a dollar cheaper, I could be mistaken, but I was sure I heard that on the forums before.
 
^ yeah I think DC has several titles at $2.99 but when you include tax it's still too much, something I've noticed is these same titles are sold cheap several months later at comic convetions because of overordering from dealers.
 
In comics, where there are gods, aliens, magic, alternate realities, and technology beyond anything in the real world, time travel is just fine by me.
 
Any plot device can be annoying if it's overused.
I hate the "rock star" artists and writers who put flash over substance & the fans just eat it up.
 
In comics, where there are gods, aliens, magic, alternate realities, and technology beyond anything in the real world, time travel is just fine by me.

Time travel is cool... if used right. Not as a gimmck

Flashbacks are good... but dont make it such that you have to read the back issues to understand whats going on.
 
The rising cost is my biggest issue. It's really forced me to read less and then when I do I get TPBs. This forces me to on most titles be 3-9months behind unless a skim issues on the stand. Getting the TPB's at 50% off at shows or even 20-30% off at online retailers makes the per issue cheaper and allows me still follow some characters/teams.

I'd be quite fine with going back to newspaper stock. Premium paper/ink took over in the 90's and is what I'm told the biggest reason for the ever rising costs. I know that isn't entirely true, the talent demands more, readership is down but still going back to newspaper stock would have to reduce a per issue cost.

Also, the cheap death/resurrection bit that takes place inside 5yrs on most characters.
The resurrection of some characters that were better off dead. Barry, Oliver, Hal--sorry.
 
My biggest problem with books is that the companies don't reprint many stories that the fans want. They reprint mainly big event books or ultra-popular mini-series.

In regards to cost control, I would actually prefer newspaper stock. It gives a nostalgic sense to the books and looks cooler, IMO. Another way to lower cost would be to print the books and sell them at regular cost and not beyond inflation.
 
So? It's not like they're putting out anything that'll be even remotely collectable nowadays, and there are still copies of Action Comics #1 out there in mint or near mint condition, and that thing's getting close to 100 years old.
 
It would be a small trade-off, yes. The hardcore collectors will probably just have to bag their books quicker. But I'm saying that's probably the reason why they're not doing it.
 
Well this is not some thing I hate about comic books it is comic book related.

I hate how you cant buy DC Direct products directly from the company.

Why call it DC Direct if you cant buy it directly from them?

Its false advertising if you ask me:cmad:
 

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