What next for the WWE, does it have a reason to exist?

[LexCorp]

It won't last forever. The crowds want so much these days from the show it will be hard to keep up. I stopped watching at a younger age. I think it leaves you after a while.

 

[Whirlysplat]

It won't last forever. The crowds want so much these days from the show it will be hard to keep up. I stopped watching at a younger age. I think it leaves you after a while.

I tend to agree, it's not for most adults. I don't think it should be for kids either.

 

[LexCorp]

I tend to agree, it's not for most adults. I don't think it should be for kids either.

If you are smart enough to know it is not fake just a bunch of stunts then you can respect that for what it is but the story lines suck 9 times out of 10 and kids don't need to watch that stuff.

 

[Whirlysplat]

If you are smart enough to know it is not fake just a bunch of stunts then you can respect that for what it is but the story lines suck 9 times out of 10 and kids don't need to watch that stuff.

I agree totally.

 

[LexCorp]

I agree totally.

It baffles me sometimes. You know the fan base.

If kids are too young to watch the violence etc.... and adults shoudl grow out of it...who the hell is watching WWE?

Don't say rednecks.

 

[Whirlysplat]

It baffles me sometimes. You know the fan base.

If kids are too young to watch the violence etc.... and adults shoudl grow out of it...who the hell is watching WWE?

Don't say rednecks.

I asked exactly this earlier in the thread. It baffles me also. I can't see who the hell is watching it. Yet the responses here show many seemingly normal people do. I actually like some of the posters who support wrestling in this thread and find them quite sensible on other issues. It's so weird.

 

[BlackLantern]

I asked exactly this earlier in the thread. It baffles me also. I can't see who the hell is watching it. Yet the responses here show many seemingly normal people do. I actually like some of the posters who support wrestling in this thread and find them quite sensible on other issues. It's so weird.

I have been a wrestling fan on and off since I was younger. I am now 28 years old...work a full time job for an internet company...have a cat...I watch wrestling because it is one of my escapes. If I have a rough day at work and I just want to totally get out of reality, I watch wrestling. I'm not learning any life lessons....to me...it's just entertainment.

 

[Whirlysplat]

I have been a wrestling fan on and off since I was younger. I am now 28 years old...work a full time job for an internet company...have a cat...I watch wrestling because it is one of my escapes. If I have a rough day at work and I just want to totally get out of reality, I watch wrestling. I'm not learning any life lessons....to me...it's just entertainment.

And you seem a pretty reasonable guy. I still don't understand why you watch it but as you're an adult and learning no life lessons from it it's your right and I respect that. It's the affect it has on kids and those less normal than you I worry about. As well as having a cat, I have a young son. You see why I might be concerned?

 

[amazingfantasy15]

And you seem a pretty reasonable guy. I still don't understand why you watch it but as you're an adult and learning no life lessons from it it's your right and I respect that. It's the affect it has on kids and those less normal than you I worry about. As well as having a cat, I have a young son. You see why I might be concerned?

Yeah, watch your son closely even one episode of Raw will turn him make him started using steroids, become a bully and beat up women, eventually to die of a drug overdose or suicide. You might want to watch your cat's viewing habits too, Tom & Jerry can have very damaging effects on a cat or heaven forbid he watches Garfield, he'll become fat and lazy and eat nothing but lasgana.

 

[Whirlysplat]

Yeah, watch your son closely even one episode of Raw will turn him make him started using steroids.

As I stated in threads prior to this one and this one I am an ex steroid user myself and as such I understand the dangers and side effects of them perhaps better than most. I took them to help me play Rugby better primarily but also through vanity. They are very dangerous. Wrestling certainly is the biggest promoter for them though amongst non sportsmen as it really is all about trying to look tough in wrestling.

 

[BlackLantern]

And you seem a pretty reasonable guy. I still don't understand why you watch it but as you're an adult and learning no life lessons from it it's your right and I respect that. It's the affect it has on kids and those less normal than you I worry about. As well as having a cat, I have a young son. You see why I might be concerned?

I'm not a parent, but one of my closest friends has a 6 year old son and just recently had a second. He is not allowed to watch certain things (wrestling, certain cartoons, etc..) and my friend actually does tell him why he isn't allowed to watch those things, as they are for grown ups only.....most parents just tell their children NO and don't provide an explanation, thus leading to the kid doing it anyway. Yes there are advances like the V Chip and Parental Controls on TV's nowadays, but nothing beats good old parental supervision.

 

[Whirlysplat]

I'm not a parent, but one of my closest friends has a 6 year old son and just recently had a second. He is not allowed to watch certain things (wrestling, certain cartoons, etc..) and my friend actually does tell him why he isn't allowed to watch those things, as they are for grown ups only.....most parents just tell their children NO and don't provide an explanation, thus leading to the kid doing it anyway. Yes there are advances like the V Chip and Parental Controls on TV's nowadays, but nothing beats good old parental supervision.

I agree with your post. I still can't help finding wrestling repulsive but that's a taste thing. I guess many would not understand why I like boxing and mma but not wrestling. I actually wouldn't have a problem with my son watching either of those. I guess it's back to the drugs and storylines again. He's only just coming up to one so I don't have to worry yet.

 

[BlackLantern]

I agree with your post. I still can't help finding wrestling repulsive but that's a taste thing. I guess many would not understand why I like boxing and mma but not wrestling. I actually wouldn't have a problem with my son watching either of those. I guess it's back to the drugs and storylines again. He's only just coming up to one so I don't have to worry yet.

as far as MMA is concerned, they may not have storylines, but alot of the personalities involved are less than savory. Like I mentioned before, is it professional or sporting to have Randy Coture (who is a UFC Champion) spank Tito Ortiz during a fight? The reality show the Ultimate Fighter on UFC has a bunch of fighters competing for a contract, and living in the same house, but there is foul language, inappropriate conversations, and a general climate of "Might makes right".....

 

[Whirlysplat]

as far as MMA is concerned, they may not have storylines, but alot of the personalities involved are less than savory. Like I mentioned before, is it professional or sporting to have Randy Coture (who is a UFC Champion) spank Tito Ortiz during a fight? The reality show the Ultimate Fighter on UFC has a bunch of fighters competing for a contract, and living in the same house, but there is foul language, inappropriate conversations, and a general climate of "Might makes right".....

Ultimate fighter is poor and I agree about the personalities. The might makes right thing is not really present in the fights anymore than in boxing for the most part as the particularly unsacoury nature of that comes from the plots in the WWE and yes athletes let us down sometimes. However Randys mistake is nothing to the continued brutilisation of a diva at the hands of a heel for a plotline.

 

[BlackLantern]

Ultimate fighter is poor and I agree about the personalities. The might makes right thing is not really present in the fights anymore than in boxing for the most part as the particularly unsacoury nature of that comes from the plots in the WWE and yes athletes let us down sometimes. However Randys mistake is nothing to the continued brutilisation of a diva at the hands of a heel for a plotline.

If memory serves....that plotline occured almost 2 years ago. He RKO'd (finishing manuever) a WWE diva (Stacy Kiebler)....since then he has not interacted with any other female performer. Currently he is being portrayed as the self-proclaimed "Legend Killer" ....being involved in matches with veteran superstars and "injuring" them after he's won the match. as of late the WWE has had the Divas interacting among each other and less and less with the male performers.

 

[Whirlysplat]

If memory serves....that plotline occured almost 2 years ago. He RKO'd (finishing manuever) a WWE diva (Stacy Kiebler)....since then he has not interacted with any other female performer. Currently he is being portrayed as the self-proclaimed "Legend Killer" ....being involved in matches with veteran superstars and "injuring" them after he's won the match. as of late the WWE has had the Divas interacting among each other and less and less with the male performers.

I was actually talking about Randy Coutures mistake being nothing to the typical diva brutilisation plotline. Sorry my post was unclear. However having read your post outlining this WWE storyline my disgust at the WWE merely increases. I just don't get what a seemingly nice guy like you gets out of something like that.

 

[BlackLantern]

I was actually talking about Randy Coutures mistake being nothing to the typical diva brutilisation plotline. Sorry my post was unclear. However having read your post outlining this WWE storyline my disgust at the WWE merely increases. I just don't get what a seemingly nice guy like you gets out of something like that.

I treat wrestling as simply another television program that I watch...no different from something like a Smallville(which has had instances of the hero Clark Kent involved in questionable activities like kidnapping and property destruction) or Las Vegas...both of which contain plotlines with objectionable material. I don't attach anymore value to it than any other television program.

 

[Whirlysplat]

I treat wrestling as simply another television program that I watch...no different from something like a Smallville(which has had instances of the hero Clark Kent involved in questionable activities like kidnapping and property destruction) or Las Vegas...both of which contain plotlines with objectionable material. I don't attach anymore value to it than any other television program.

O.K. O.K. but beating up multiple old men? Is that what your saying this character does? As well as brutalise a women over a prolonged period of time. Ewww.

 

[BlackLantern]

O.K. O.K. but beating up multiple old men? Is that what your saying this character does? As well as brutalise a women over a prolonged period of time. Ewww.

They weren't old.....3 of the 4 "legends" were actually active WWE performers. and the brutalisation (as you put it) occured in one action on one show and was never repeated.

 

[Whirlysplat]

They weren't old.....3 of the 4 "legends" were actually active WWE performers. and the brutalisation (as you put it) occured in one action on one show and was never repeated.

All the same.......... How Old were they fifty? sixty? What was the brutalisation like? Didn't the WWE run a story about some young stud getting an old lady pregnant?

 

[BlackLantern]

All the same.......... How Old were they fifty? sixty? What was the brutalisation like? Didn't the WWE run a story about some young stud getting an old lady pregnant?

No...Shawn Michaels is in his late thirties and still an active performer. Rob Van Dam is in his late twenties early thirties and still and active performer. Dusty Rhodes is in his 60's but works with the WWE as a trainer with the younger talent. Mick Foley is in his forties and is a part time performer. I don't recall any recent pregnancy storyline.....at leas not in the past 3 years or so....the whole "Legend Killer" storyline has nothing to do with age....it's more about reputation. His most recent opponent was John Cena...who is far from 50 or 60 but is slowly becoming a "legend"

 

[Whirlysplat]

No...Shawn Michaels is in his late thirties and still an active performer. Rob Van Dam is in his late twenties early thirties and still and active performer. Dusty Rhodes is in his 60's but works with the WWE as a trainer with the younger talent. Mick Foley is in his forties and is a part time performer. I don't recall any recent pregnancy storyline.....at leas not in the past 3 years or so....the whole "Legend Killer" storyline has nothing to do with age....it's more about reputation. His most recent opponent was John Cena...who is far from 50 or 60 but is slowly becoming a "legend"

I just looked into this Shawn Michaels is in his forties, Sergent Slaughter must be nearly sixty and he appears to have been in this plotline.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Perhaps one wriiten by a hack like Hudlin.......Or Todd Mcfarlane, but not a quality comic book and certainly one lacking any of the morality good comics have. I guess though many wrestlers see themselves as recieving super soldier serum if you can call sustanon 250 that!

Roid Rage makes Hulk smash!

Even Marvel and DC are loaded with morally ambiguous characters, violence and misogyny. You can see prime examples of all three of those things in the Batman and Spiderman movie franchises.

 

[LexCorp]

I asked exactly this earlier in the thread. It baffles me also. I can't see who the hell is watching it. Yet the responses here show many seemingly normal people do. I actually like some of the posters who support wrestling in this thread and find them quite sensible on other issues. It's so weird.

Yeah me too. I have nothing against WWE just seems weird. Anyway...

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Just read the story on the news. lol@ Wack ass Batista and Orton being suspended but at King Booker and Mr. Kennedy. Oh well you do the time, you do the crime.
Anyway Professional Wrestling is dying so who cares?

Just bury it.

Fans are already disintersted in the storylines and the main eventers presented.There's no charasmatic wrestlers with good on mic delivery (Rock and Austin) or great in ring wrestlers who can sell a crowd on funamentals ( Four Horseman, Bret Hart), most are probably complacent due to lack of competition ( its virtually a monopoly, TNA cant compete budgest-wise, though they try). It's peaked creativley and athleticaly and this culture of better bodies is causing more people to take steroids to replace in ring talent (though it was always a thing). I mean UFC ovetook them. How can they let that happen?

Just bury it. I loved it, We all loved it but it's dead as Kurt Angle will be in 5 years....