When will DC stop milking the whole Crisis thing?

[Assassin]

i live 2 hours from there (no joke)

You're from michigan?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Which wasn't that bad. Actually, it was pretty good and he introduced a number of good aspects to the CSA world. Like a Justice League made up of bad guys like Grundy and a badass Riddler.

I didn't think it flowed very well. It seemed like a disparate collection of parts more than a real story to me.

 

[Anubis]

It was one of those stories that read best as a trade. Maybe it should have just been a graphic novel. Waiting a month between issues hurt the story.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It was one of those stories that read best as a trade. Maybe it should have just been a graphic novel. Waiting a month between issues hurt the story.

That's just a euphemism for "it had bad pacing." Everything reads better as a trade.

 

[Miss Webb]

Worm on a hook, and the people keep lining up.

All these "Crisis" are starting to blur together for me...I can't tell one from the other anymore. Same cast of characters rotating the egomania award for universal domination...who knows, maybe Extant will return for ZERO HOUR REDUX.

(Superboy Prime, Anti-Monitor, Parallax, Guardians, Sinestro, all standing in one big cluster f***)

ROCK PAPER SCISSORS. WE RULE, WE RULE!!!!

 

[Anubis]

[YT][/YT]

That's just a euphemism for "it had bad pacing." Everything reads better as a trade.

That's not true. Mysteries read better in once a month form. Like for instance, I can't help but feel how awesome it would have been had I been reading Preacher when it was coming out as a comic, and Tulip got her head blown off at the end of that issue. A whole month wondering just wtf was gonna happen. Just about everything Morrison writes works best in trade, But Dini's Detective Comics or Cooke's the Spirit works best in one-shots. So, no, your statement is flawed.

 

[WildWing]

Yeah I'd totally guess that it will have something to do with Superboy Prime in so way shape or form. During IC did they ever stop to mention what was the reason for his mental instability? Really, how did that happy go lucky hero with his dog Krypto turn into this deranged mad man super villain?

 

[Anubis]

They did. Alex Luthor making him watch all the people he loved die over and over and over again for twenty years.

 

[Spade]

They did. Alex Luthor making him watch all the people he loved die over and over and over again for twenty years.

As much as I'd like to say that'd make anyone break, it sort of sounds more like he could have killed the guy and then left it at that. You figure when you witness so much evil you'd be less likely to perpetuate it. But, whatever. I was never really into Infinite Crisis...

 

[Anubis]

He didn't know Alex was causing the visions. Why kill the guy who, for all he knew, was his only friend?

 

[Spade]

He didn't know Alex was causing the visions.

Well, that explains things a bit more.

 

[WildWing]

He didn't know Alex was causing the visions. Why kill the guy who, for all he knew, was his only friend?

I only got parts of the story but a friend of mine told me that the modern Superboy's powers went nuts and he was in a hiatus on the kent farm. Superboy-Prime apparently had some kind of inter-dimensional video monitor and saw this as a reason for the modern Superboy not to wear the "S" shield or even exist and punched a whole through reality and attacked him.

I was guessing that was the pre-cursor to IC?

 

[Varient]

I hear there is one more Crisis coming up entitled "Final Crisis". Correct me if I'm wrong.

YUP.
Where they kill EVERYONE.

 

[Anubis]

I only got parts of the story but a friend of mine told me that the modern Superboy's powers went nuts and he was in a hiatus on the kent farm. Superboy-Prime apparently had some kind of inter-dimensional video monitor and saw this as a reason for the modern Superboy not to wear the "S" shield or even exist and punched a whole through reality and attacked him.

I was guessing that was the pre-cursor to IC?

Wow, somebody sold you a line of bull. Here's what happened. After the original Crisis, SBP, E2 Supes and Lois, and Alexander Luthor found themselves trapped in, well, best way to describe it is Limbo. They couldn't get out as far as they knew, but they could see what was going on on the outside, as well as the past, the present, and the future of the DCU. They could also see the old Multiverse. Alex, who is Lex Luthor's son from the Crime Syndicate Earth (The one where Lex is the only good guy on the planet), well, he started to think that maybe they saved the wrong Earth. They had fought, and basically consigned themselves to eternity in Limbo, for a bunch of murdering, distrustful, mind f**king *****e bags. He also realized that he could control what he saw using his anti-Matter powers. So, he set about a plan of action that would enable him to fix his mistake. He took advantage of Superboy because he was young, and lets face it, kinda stupid and naive. So, he kept showing him images of his family dying in the antimatter wave during the original Crisis. Pictures of his girlfriend, as well as views at the life the current Superboy was having. He was a Hero, had friends, and a girlfriend. Everything he didn't have. Years of this (which is relative because there is no time in Limbo) took it's tole, and eventually, SBP snapped and punched the wall. The anti-matter energy coupled with SBP's tremendous pre-crisis strength punch (we're talking planet moving Superman here kinda strength) was able to shatter the walls of reality. As a result, he had changed reality. Brought back the original Doom Patrol, brought back Jason Todd, and a ton of other s**t by splintering the walls of creation basically. So, Alex powered him up with all the anti matter energy he could muster, and let him go to work on the wall until he had breached it, and they were free. They then set about bringing events to a head so they could enact their plan to create the "Earth that Should have been." Once everything went to hell, they showed E2 Supes and convinced him to help them, unaware that they had made things far worse on purpose, and exactly what they were planning to do. And the rest is history.

They had already been on Earth, building the machine to create all those realities by the Time SBP took off to Show Kon EL what a real Superboy can do, or whatever.

 

[DavidTyler]

I friggin hated the latest crisis. It didn't improve anything. They should have just stopped after Crisis on Infinite Earths. It made the DC universe more accessible and interesting.

Bringing back the multiverse was unnecessary and changing the major characters is proving to be a mistake. Anyone actually buying the Jonn Jonn'z book? I picked up Atom. I picked up Blue Beetle. Both were pretty bad. Just like DC discovered with Hal Jordan, they'll end up bringing back Ted Kord and returning Jonn to his original concept.

 

[Anubis]

I disagree.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like Blue Beetle, but I think the majority of the changes that have come out of IC are either crappy or unnecessary. Which, I guess, is why I'm reading fewer DC comics now than I ever have since I started buying comics regularly.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Anubis basically recounted Infinite Crisis,and a few other things.Personally i thought the concept of survivors from the orignal COIE is good...,but if DC was going to bring back the multiverse..why did the Pre-Crisis Superman die?Then again i have not read 52 or Countdown yet..

 

[Sloth7d]

I'm sure final crisis will be the last "crisis" given its name.

Spoiler

Holy ****! A flying pig!