When will Walt Disney get a biopic?

I've read some pretty troubling things about Walt Disney... I love Disney movies, but the guy was no saint.

"If the world only had the eyes to see the fibers which lay under the surface of Walt Disney's image they'd tar and feather him and drag him through the streets."
 
I've read some pretty troubling things about Walt Disney... I love Disney movies, but the guy was no saint.

"If the world only had the eyes to see the fibers which lay under the surface of Walt Disney's image they'd tar and feather him and drag him through the streets."

You mean from this conspiracy theory website with no sources to back it up.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/disney1.htm

Here's the full quote.

Years ago, an Illuminati Grand Master and programmer stated,

“If the world only had the eyes to see the fibers which lay under the surface of Walt Disney’s image, they’d tar and feather him, and drag him through the streets. If only they knew what Disney’s primary goals."
 
Disney was not a Nazi, and his frozen corpse is not buried in a lab under the Magic Kingdom.
 
You mean from this conspiracy theory website with no sources to back it up.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/disney1.htm

Here's the full quote.

I know where it was from, which is why I provided a link in my comment. Your have a choice in your beliefs. I don't believe Disney was a Nazi, nor do I believe he was frozen... However, there are some things in there that are believable. Walt Disney was a human being, and was bound to have faults. Are there any facts that really say he wasn't this type of man? No? You mean you only know of the image he presented to the world publicly? I thought so.
 
As much as I would love to see a film about the man himself, a completely honest movie about the man, showing any flaws at all, will never be done. Disney has to protect the brand, and Walt is a big part of that brand.

I am a Disney fanatic, and I would be there opening night, even if it was a Disney-produced "feel good" movie about his rise to fame and making dreams come true.
 
Here's another excerpt from that page:

Walt Disney biographer Leonard Mosley, who researched Walt Disney for years (as well as writing books on the duPonts, the Dulles brothers, and Hirohito) wrote in his book on Walt Disney,
“The studio publicity machines in the film colony had, as usual, gone out of their way to try to persuade me, as a writer for a powerfully influential British newspaper, that this was a city of lawless gods and goddesses, full of clean-living, sanitized stars.
“It was even more of a deodorized world at the Walt Disney Studio where the publicity men insisted their boss was faultless - never drank too much, never used a swearword, never lost his temper, never quarreled with his wife or family, never let down a friend. And woe betide anyone who tried to suggest otherwise. Members of the resident foreign and local press risked their jobs if they dared to write stories inferring that Walt Disney could be domineering, implacable, and unforgiving (as was the case, for instance, before, during, and after the 1941 studio strike).
The Disney flacks were capable of exerting heavy pressure on editors and proprietors or, through the advertising pages, against anyone who inferred Walt Disney was not the epitome of well-scrubbed and benevolent perfection."
(Mosley, Leonard. Disney’s World. New York: Stein and Day, p. 10.)
Walt and animation:

Strangely, the biographies indicate that Walt quit doing the actual drawing in 1927, and Walt devoted himself entirely to the development of the cartoon business, such as raising money. In other words, the image of Walt Disney being the artist who has created the Disney cartoon’s is inaccurate. The Disney brothers actually hired many other artists to do the art work. If Walt quit drawing in 1927, and their first marketable cartoon was in 1928, that clearly shows that Walt did not do the actual cartooning.
He continued to oversee the work, walking in and rigidly inspecting what was being done to suit his own intuitive tastes. Actually the genius cartoon artist (animator) who made Walt Disney a success was Ub Iwerks, about whom Walt on a number of occasions said was “the best animator in the world”.
Without Ub Iwerks to take Walt’s ideas and turn them into reality, Walt would never have become famous. Ub was an incredible genius who had a sense of line, a sense of humor, patience, organization and a great sense of what Walt wanted.
Walt treated him cruelly at times, interrupting him, playing tricks on him, and not being totally honest with paying him, but he stayed with Walt over the years and made Walt the success Walt became. (The books Disney’s World and Disney Animation: The Illusion of Life have information on the unheralded genius Ub Iwerks.)
Another unknown great artist was Floyd Gottfredson.
Floyd Gottfredson drew all the Mickey Mouse cartoons from 1932 until October, 1975 - which is a period of 45 1/2 years. Floyd Gottfredson was a Mormon born in a railway station in 1905, and raised in a tiny Mormon town, Siggurd, 180 miles so. of Salt Lake City. In 1931, before Floyd totally took over the Mickey Mouse drawings, he would take suggestions from Walt on what to draw.
For instance, Walt puzzled him by insisting he do a cartoon series of Mickey Mouse committing suicide.
Floyd had said, “Walt, You’re kidding!” But Walt thought that a series on suicide would be funny. Over the years the Walt Disney products never mentioned Floyd’s name. The bulk of the fans were led to believe Walt did the cartooning of Mickey Mouse himself. (See the book Walt Disney’s Mickey Mouse in Color. Ed. Bruce Hamilton, pub. The Walt Disney Co., 1988.)
Fred Moore was involved in the creation of Pluto and some other cartoon characters. The idea for Pluto was Walt’s and it was Norm Ferguson’s genius at drawing that took the idea and created the actual images. Walt Disney was awarded 32 personal academy awards for the work that was done by his studios. Walt Disney’s famous signature was actually designed by someone else, and was taught to Walt. (Schickel, Richard. The Disney Version: The Life, Time, Art and Commerce of Walt Disney. NY, 1968, p. 34.)
Walt could only make a crude Disney signature, so he delegated the writing of the signature to several artists including Bob Moore, Disney’s publicity artist.
Later, after much practice he learned to make it well enough to do for publicity. Many people who wrote letters asking for his actual signature, and who actually did his signature, thought that they had received forgeries by his staff, because the famous Disney signature was so crude. The nicer looking ones were the forgeries.
One cartoon animator who joined Disney in 1940 recalled that Walt told him the first day,
“You’re new here, and I want you to understand just one thing. What we’re selling here is the name Walt Disney. If you can swallow that and always remember it, you’ll be happy here. But if you’ve got any ideas about seeing the name Ken Anderson [his name] up there, its best for you to leave right away.”
 
Every artists dream was to work at Disney Studios under Walt. Walt said to an animator if you work at another studio you'll be famous if you stay here you'll do great work. That animator stayed, that's how it was, at least he was upfront about it to the artist. Within the industry artists believed that Disney's animation was the best and only the best worked there, it was something everyone strived for. Every buck Walt made he spent, to the chagrin of his brother the who handled the finances. People who worked there thought they were making magic. The ink and paint girls slept under their desks on Snow White, not because the were told to, it's because they genuinely didn't want to go home. The same attitude was there at ILM when artists were working on Episode I. George would tell the artists to go home, telling them it's a low budget big budget movie. He'd say to CG artists that they didn't have to put motion blur on the flung Gungan bombs, because no one would notice it.


I know Steve Worth who was in charge of the Animation Archive (ASIFA Hollywood) for thirty years. He's told me a story about a man he met that had worked at Disney under Walt. I can't remember the artists name, sorry. He pitched an idea to Walt that the studio should do one story over two one hour films, to release them separately in the theaters. The next day the man was fired! Soon after that Walt pitched the idea to his artists the idea about a feature film. The man who was shafted was extremely angry and his children were forbidden from watching anything Disney or going to Disneyland while growing up.

A lot of artists left Disney to go to other studios, Hugh Harman and Rudolf Ising started up Warner Brothers animation. Kenneth Muse went over to MGM and worked on Tom and Jerry cartoons. Floyd Norman had nothing but fond memories working for Walt. The people that Walt liked he promoted, like the nine animators he referred to as the nine old men. A lot of people didn't get along with Walt, a lot of people had their own issues. Milt Kahl could say anything he wanted to, to Walt, because he was Walt's top animator.

There was Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica with submarine rides and Disney put in his submarine ride at Disneyland to compete with them. He was fiercely competitive.

Here's an article about it. http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_c...nd-s-submarine-voyage-built.aspx#.UFlXV476qbA

Here's something to consider, Floyd Norman worked under Walt and he had nothing but praise for the man and the studio. Working For Hanna Barbera he said Joe and Bill were very difficult to work for, but under Eisner it was a nightmare!
 
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Walt and animation:
Strangely, the biographies indicate that Walt quit doing the actual drawing in 1927, and Walt devoted himself entirely to the development of the cartoon business, such as raising money. In other words, the image of Walt Disney being the artist who has created the Disney cartoon’s is inaccurate. The Disney brothers actually hired many other artists to do the art work. If Walt quit drawing in 1927, and their first marketable cartoon was in 1928, that clearly shows that Walt did not do the actual cartooning.

Walt was the director of Steam Boat Willy. Most directors don't do the actual animation in the same vein that most directors don't act in their films. It also takes a team of people to make an animated film in a reasonable amount of time. The idea that Walt Disney didn't animate himself is neither an issue, nor a lie they tried to tell. And they were in production for this short film in 1927, so it's entirely possible that Walt did put pencil to paper to some degree (character sketches, storyboarding, etc).


I don't see how this is a slam against Walt. He had a vision, and he hired people to help make that vision a reality. Its no different than any other studio in film and animation. Are people just not aware of how this works? Do people really think that Michelangelo carved David all on his own? That he - and his contemporaries - didn't have a team of people working with him?
 
I'd rather see a Jim Henson biographical movie with Ryan Gosling as Jim and David Cross as Frank Oz.
 
In a perfect world Phil Hartman would've made a great Walt Disney...

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This is who I think would make for the perfect cast. And if anyone has any ideas for other people connected to Walt or different people in mind, it would be awesome hearing them:

WALT DISNEY Ryan Gosling

ROY DISNEY Sam Rockwell

LILY DISNEY (WALT'S WIFE) Amy Adams

EDNA DISNEY (ROY'S WIFE) I'm having difficulty with this one.

ANIMATORS ARE AS PICTURED:

UB IWERKS Dominic Cooper

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TED SEARS Michael Pitt

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BEN SHARPSTEEN Lou Taylor Pucci

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WILFRED JACKSON Sam Huntington

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LES CLARK Aaron Tveit

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MARC DAVIS Tom Welling (over the years just add on some pounds)

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FRANK THOMAS Justin Long AS AN ANIMATION 'DUO'
OLLIE JOHNSON Chris Marquette THESE TWO WERE OFTEN SEEN

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MILT KAHL Paul Dano

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ERIC LARSON Paul Wesley

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They've done Biopics on way less important people...i really am surprised Walt doesn't have one.
 
JOHN LOUNSBERY Anton Yelchin

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WOLFGANG REITHERMAN Colton Haynes

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BILLY TYTLA Garret Hedlund

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FRED MOORE Jay Baruchel

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NORM FERGUSON Michael Cera (unable to find picture)

WARD KIMBALL Michael Angarno

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ART BABBIT (INSTIGATED THE CLASSIC DISNEY STRIKE) Ben Foster

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GRIM NATWICK (OFTEN JOKED TO BE "THE OLD MAN" DESPITE BEING IN HIS 40S) Jeff Daniels

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IGOR STRAVINSKY Jason Isaacs

PAT POWERS Vince Vaughn

CHARLES MINTZ Jeremy Piven

CHARLIE CHAPLIN Robert Downey Jr.

The animators have to age from their 20s (some are even 19) to their 50s (thus aiming for actors in their mid to late 20s, especially since the key appearances would be in their 20s and 30s. The perfect actor for Tytla for example is Joel Edgerton, but he just seemed old when placed with the rest of the crew so I went for the next best actor I could think of that could carry the same gravitas.

Interestingly, early on, the Hyperion Studio days and early days at the Burbank studio could be said to be a lot like how we see Facebook being run in 'Social Network' because they are so young. One interesting story is one of the animators riding a horse (!) through a hotel where their crew was booked lol.
 
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Isn't Walt Disney a racist or something like that? He hates Jews, Blacks etc. Even though I like Disney World and all, I don't really like Walt himself if he is indeed a racist and would never watch a movie about him.
No he doesn't, what made these rumors so popular was because he hired every kind of people, including people who were themselves racist.

I like the idea of making the biobic 2D animated, it would be an interesting way for Disney to prove they can still make adult animated movies.
 
I have no clue when he'll get a biopic.
 
I have no clue when he'll get a biopic.
It's when the CEO and the board of directors at The Walt Disney Company decides it. It has to be in the company's best interest (the bottom line) what will bring in more revenue to the company and to its shareholders!
 
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I think one of the main difficulties is that it would be one of the LONGEST biopics right up there alongside JFK, NIXON, MALCOLM X, and SCHINDLER'S LIST. That doesn't make it impossible - there's just a lot of ground to cover.
 
The first film should be from his childhood to the beginning of WWII. There should be his falling out with Ub Iwerks, his marriage to Lillian who was the head of his Ink and Paint department. The film ending with the war in 1941 and the studio strike in that same year.

The next film should be on how Walt made Disneyland, with Walt reprising his relationship with Ub, and how Walt and him overcame engineering challenges to make the park, and the film ends with his death.

There's two Walt Disney stories, the story before WWII, which is regarded as the Golden age of Animation. Then there's the story after the war about 1950 when the studio began making animated films again starting with Cinderella, and Disney going into live action with movies and TV and utilizing the latter to market his theme park. The film should end with his death.

For accuracy, lets not forget Walt turned in names from the Labor Unions at the HUAC hearings. Walt also put on the opening ceremony for the 1960's Winter Olympics. He did the Great Moments with Mister Lincoln and its a Smaller World for the 1964 Worlds Fair with the agreement he could keep the attractions later for his theme park. He added the sky way and the submarine ride at Disneyland because they were rides at the Pacific Ocean Park (POP), to beat his competitor.

To possibly end the two films happily they could end the first one with the movie premiere of Snow White and with Walt at his new Burbank Studio . The second film could end with the opening day of Disneyland, with actor Ronald Reagan's voice over announcing the opening on national television.
 
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