Which writer uses Marvel Continuity as a creative tool?

[TwilightPro101]

Other.

 

[Kitsune]

Um..... have you even read Ultimate Spider-Man?

Um.... Ultimate Spider-Man is mostly Bendis' own continuity, so even if I hadn't given up on it after they killed Gwen Stacy off before we even cared about her, it would still be Slot...

 

[roach]

Um..... have you even read Ultimate Spider-Man?

yes I have

 

[hippie_hunter]

Um..... have you even read Ultimate Spider-Man?

While Ultimate Spider-Man is a new interpretation of the character, he is technically a separate character than 616 Spider-Man. Bendis' 616 Spider-Man is awful while his Ultimate Spider-Man is awesome. Also, Ultimate Spider-Man sorta wained in quality, while still being the best of the Ultimate line (the rest of it was out right horrible in my opinion so it was like comparing something decent to utter crap).

Asides from a recent back up strip in Amazing Spider-Man, Bendis writes 616 Spider-Man as way too immature for someone who is over 25. And his dialog is horrendous. Slott's 616 Spider-Man is far superior.

However I believe that if Slott tried to write Ultimate Spider-Man, it would be inferior to Bendis'.

 

[DACMAN]

Um.... Ultimate Spider-Man is mostly Bendis' own continuity, so even if I hadn't given up on it after they killed Gwen Stacy off before we even cared about her, it would still be Slot...

Yeah, so that's a no from you. Which means your opinion means nothing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It sounds like he read it until Ultimate Gwen died.

 

[Themanofbat]

It sounds like he read it until Ultimate Gwen died.

I know... and that was about near the halfway point of the run...

It's akin to saying that if you haven't read at least 301 issues of ASM, 146 issues of Spectacular Spider-Man, 78 issues of Peter Parker: Spider-Man, 75 issues of the original Marvel Team-Up, as well as half of the many other on-goings that never saw beyond issue 41, then your "opinion" on 616 Spider-Man means nothing...

LAWL!!!!

 

[Themanofbat]

And I'm chatting with my good friend Corpy here, Hunter...

Nothing wrong with that? Right?

 

[DACMAN]

I know... and that was about near the halfway point of the run...

It's akin to saying that if you haven't read at least 301 issues of ASM, 146 issues of Spectacular Spider-Man, 78 issues of Peter Parker: Spider-Man, 75 issues of the original Marvel Team-Up, as well as half of the many other on-goings that never saw beyond issue 41, then your "opinion" on 616 Spider-Man means nothing...

LAWL!!!!

No. Ultimate Spider-Man was a completed story. 1-133 and Requiem. Having not read them all is like reading not even half a novel, or watching not even half a movie.


If he'd kept reading he'd know they brought her back.

 

[roach]

No. Ultimate Spider-Man was a completed story. 1-133 and Requiem. Having not read them all is like reading not even half a novel, or watching not even half a movie.


If he'd kept reading he'd know they brought her back.

this coming from the guy who quit on OMD....what if they bring them back as a married couple????

 

[SpideyInATree]

No. Ultimate Spider-Man was a completed story. 1-133 and Requiem. Having not read them all is like reading not even half a novel, or watching not even half a movie.


If he'd kept reading he'd know they brought her back.

Well technically the story is still continuing with Ultimate Comics Spider-Man # 1. Still Bendis writing. Still Peter Parker as Spider-Man. Still all the same characters. Same storyline. Just some bad artwork, that's all.

And that doesn't make any sense anyway. It's like what TMOB said. That's like saying if you haven't read from Amazing Spider-Man # 1 all the way to the current issue # 602 then that is the same thing, at least by your standards.

 

[IFryKids]

Oh wait. Are you talking about the fact we're mad that they erased years of continuity? Is that what you're talking about? Because that was never an arguement. That's what they did. And that wasn't what I was saying made Slott a bad writer. It's the fact his dialog sucks "You...you..you suck!" And his villains suck, and plotting sucks. BMB is amazing at all those. Yes, including villains. He took old villains and made them great. His Doc Ock was 100x better than Slotts. And I think it is much harder to take an old villain and make them interesting again, then just coming up with a new villain all together. JMS also did a good job of giving us great new villains. Slott is a subpar writer any way you cut it.

Bringing in Ultimate Spider-Man as a point in your argument is completely meaningless as it's basically a different character all together. He was able to write that character from his beginning, whereas 616 Spider-Man has been around for years, and Bendis has raped his characterization any chance he gets. Slott wins by a landslide.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Anyone who picks Bendis has an IQ less than 30.

 

[DACMAN]

this coming from the guy who quit on OMD....what if they bring them back as a married couple????

I didn't quit on OMD, I quit after it. And if they fix it I'll probably be back. But the change they made was like changing a movie half way through because the EIC didn't like it. It was a total and complete shift.

 

[Hunter Rider]

And I'm chatting with my good friend Corpy here, Hunter...

Nothing wrong with that? Right?

You are gonna have to contact me directly if you have some issue with me, I can't rely on someone reporting you every time you bring my name up for no apparent reason.

 

[Kitsune]

Yeah, so that's a no from you. Which means my opinion means nothing.

Corrected

 

[Kitsune]

It sounds like he read it until Ultimate Gwen died.

Pretty much.

 

[Blader5489]

No. Ultimate Spider-Man was a completed story. 1-133 and Requiem. Having not read them all is like reading not even half a novel, or watching not even half a movie.


If he'd kept reading he'd know they brought her back.

USM is not some Vertigo book, with a planned beginning and end. The fact that it's still going on (and the only reason it "ended" was because of Ultimatum) is proof of that.

 

[Kitsune]

No. Ultimate Spider-Man was a completed story. 1-133 and Requiem. Having not read them all is like reading not even half a novel, or watching not even half a movie.


If he'd kept reading he'd know they brought her back.

I know they brought her back, but that didn't keep the story that killed her off from being crappy.

 

[Dread]

It sounds like he read it until Ultimate Gwen died.

That's when I should have stopped. I stayed until the end of Ultimate Clone Saga. Good god, was that rubbish.

Seems Bendis finally got some votes.

 

[Alastor]

I don't see how you can compare a comic series, totally in well over 600 issues and counting, with a two hour film.

On topic, I prefer Slott.

 

[Themanofbat]

You are gonna have to contact me directly if you have some issue with me, I can't rely on someone reporting you every time you bring my name up for no apparent reason.

No issues... you told me to knock it off with DACMAN, and I was merely commenting on something that Corpy said concerning DACMAN...

I thought it was simple...

... maybe it's my old age...

 

[DACMAN]

I'm a big stinky fart who likes to change what people actually said in their posts because I think that I'm clever. And I suck.

Double corrected.

 

[DACMAN]

You are gonna have to contact me directly if you have some issue with me, I can't rely on someone reporting you every time you bring my name up for no apparent reason.

Aw snap.

That's young guy slang Themanofbat. You wouldn't understand.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Spider-Woman flies for no apparent reason. He filled in reasons later, but at the time, I remember that was a big one that irked people.

Spider-Man got his arm broken by Jigsaw, which wasn't technically Bendis' fault because it was Finch who mixed up the characters (it was supposed to be Piledriver, I think).

Iron Man deciding the Avengers needed a killer was railed on a bit, I believe. This was back before heroes killing people became the norm.

And after Captain America swore that in regards to Wolverine "The Avengers would NEVER have him" back in cap annual #8 (which Bendis obviously never read).