Who created the following characters first: Marvel or D.C.?

[toddly6666]

I'm a little shocked at how many Marvel characters have equivelant versions as D.C. characters or vice versa. For anyone that knows the history, who came first and were the two competing comic companies that desperate that they had to make similar characters, with similar personalities and powers? Here are a few - which came first?

1. Solomon Grundy (DC) or Hulk (Marvel)
2. Martian Manhunter (DC) or Vision (Marvel)
3. Doctor Fate (DC) or Doctor Strange (Marvel)
4. Plastic Man/Elongated Man (DC) or Mister Fantastic (Marvel)
5. Aquaman (DC) or Submariner (Marvel)
7. Darkseid/Mongul (DC) or Thanos (Marvel)
8. Metron (DC) or The Watcher (Marvel)
9. The Flash (DC) or Quicksilver (Marvel)
10. Atom (DC) or Ant-Man (Marvel)
11. Atomic Skull (DC) or Ghost Rider (Marvel)
12. Clay Face (DC) or Sand Man (Marvel)

 

[PhotoJones]

I'm a little shocked at how many Marvel characters have equivelant versions as D.C. characters or vice versa. For anyone that knows the history, who came first and were the two competing comic companies that desperate that they had to make similar characters, with similar personalities and powers? Here are a few - which came first?

1. Solomon Grundy (DC) or Hulk (Marvel)
2. Martian Manhunter (DC) or Vision (Marvel)
3. Doctor Fate (DC) or Doctor Strange (Marvel)
4. Plastic Man/Elongated Man (DC) or Mister Fantastic (Marvel)
5. Aquaman (DC) or Submariner (Marvel)
7. Darkseid/Mongul (DC) or Thanos (Marvel)
8. Metron (DC) or The Watcher (Marvel)
9. The Flash (DC) or Quicksilver (Marvel)
10. Atom (DC) or Ant-Man (Marvel)
11. Atomic Skull (DC) or Ghost Rider (Marvel)
12. Clay Face (DC) or Sand Man (Marvel)

The earlier creations are in bold.

 

[Zoken]

Um... I don't know what era the Martian Manhunter was created in, but The ORIGINAL Vision was a Golden Age creation.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Solomon Grundy was really created before the Hulk?

I am surprised by that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but Grundy and the Hulk are pretty different characters. Grundy's just a zombie who gets a different personality and intelligence level whenever he's killed and resurrected again. The Hulk is more of a play on the Jekyll and Hyde archetype.

Um... I don't know what era the Martian Manhunter was created in, but The ORIGINAL Vision was a Golden Age creation.

The original Vision also had nothing to do with the Avengers' Vision.

 

[shapeshifter]

Solomon Grundy was really created before the Hulk?

I am surprised by that.

I'm not. Grundy was way back.
he might only have a month or so on hulk but i'm not to suprised

 

[November Rain]

looks like dc's had the one up on the creative side...

 

[PhotoJones]

looks like dc's had the one up on the creative side...

And yet Marvel's been the more successful of the two.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I'm not so sure #7 is right. Plastic Man came out first, yes, but he's a complete shapeshifter able to become anything. That's actually very different from being able to streach and extend your body. Plastic Man turns into planes, boats, the floor, whatever he thinks up almost no limits. Elongated man and reed can't do a tenth of what he can do.

E-man can contort and streach.

Reed actually was supposed to be the manifestation of water in that he can extend and compress his body in a way that makes him able to streach, increase density, contort, and be impervious to almost any physical attack.

 

[moraldeficiency]

And yet Marvel's been the more successful of the two.

DC started this whole thing with supes. But all the characters had literary figures or myths they were modeled after. Very few of them are actually original.

 

[November Rain]

depends how you rate sucess really.

 

[PhotoJones]

depends how you rate sucess really.

Monetary?

 

[Darthphere]

The original Vision also had nothing to do with the Avengers' Vision.

But it wasn't specified, therefore, nyah!

 

[Zoken]

Thank you, Darth, I was about to say that.

 

[The Shredder]

I'm not. Grundy was way back.
he might only have a month or so on hulk but i'm not to suprised

Grundy's first appearance was about 20 years or so before The Hulk made his debut.

 

[PhotoJones]

If you're asking about Timely Comics' Vision, he was created in 1940. Since it was specified Marvel's Vision, I went with that.

 

[Darthphere]

Well Namor debuted for Funnies Inc. and he debuted for Timely Comics, so it's really odd to hold one character to one standard over another.

 

[PhotoJones]

Well, he specified the Marvel version, so again, that's what I went with.

 

[Darthphere]

So what's Marvel's version of Namor?

 

[PhotoJones]

Namorita.

 

[Kitsune]

Submariner came first.
Sandman may have came second, but I don't think the Clayface of the time had the same powers. Marvel has a character named Vision before DC had Martian Manhunter, but it was a different character. Vision isn't really that much like Martian Manhunter, Vision has the density control and strength, and an energy blast, but he doesn't have the full package of mental powers and shapeshifting that Martian Manhunter does.

 

[CConn]

Monetary?

Marvel's made more money all-time than DC?

I find that kinda hard to believe given the whole bankruptcy thing from a decade ago. Of course, the Spider-Man movies probably jacked their revenue up through the roof.

 

[Max Shrek]

Marvel's made more money all-time than DC?

I find that kinda hard to believe given the whole bankruptcy thing from a decade ago. Of course, the Spider-Man movies probably jacked their revenue up through the roof.

On a month to month basis, Marvel beats DC in the comics consistently. I don't know about all time but besides ONE dry spell in the 90s (and weren't the early 90s booming for Marvel), Marvel's done very, very good for themselves.

 

[CConn]

On a month to month basis, Marvel beats DC in the comics consistently. I don't know about all time but besides ONE dry spell in the 90s (and weren't the early 90s booming for Marvel), Marvel's done very, very good for themselves.

Well, duh. But that's a month-to-month basis currently. Has it always been like that? Has that added revenue eclipsed the money DC made before Marvel was even around?

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Marvel's made more money all-time than DC?

I find that kinda hard to believe given the whole bankruptcy thing from a decade ago. Of course, the Spider-Man movies probably jacked their revenue up through the roof.

Yeah, but DC has Warner Bros. backing it up, Marvel doesn't have a big corporation like WB to back it up.