Why does Windows Vista suck so much?

what is different to Vista from XP?
They redesigned the graphical user interface to give it similarity to many of the features found on Mac's OS X. As a result, Microsoft rewrote much of the Windows code from scratch, so there's plenty of potential security weaknesses. Also, in order to protect against those weaknesses, Vista has a an overprotective security system.

I wouldn't sell out and start using a Mac, but Vista sure isn't worth shelling out for.
 
They redesigned the graphical user interface to give it similarity to many of the features found on Mac's OS X. As a result, Microsoft rewrote much of the Windows code from scratch, so there's plenty of potential security weaknesses. Also, in order to protect against those weaknesses, Vista has a an overprotective security system.

I wouldn't sell out and start using a Mac, but Vista sure isn't worth shelling out for.


It's not just the GUI. They tried to swipe more than a few features from Mac OS X, as well, all while trying to maintain backwards compatibility and make it all work with their ridiculously overbearing security model that tries to make up for insecure code (like a band-aid over an axe wound in the head).

Out of curiosity, though, how would moving to a Mac be selling out? It's secure, stable, feature rich (all to the point that MS has tried to outright copy it with Vista), has the largest library of software on the planet available to it (you read that right), can dual boot Windows and pretty much ANY OS using Parallels, has no viruses/spyware/malware/trojans on it, has better longevity and ability to run the latest OS for a greater period of time that Windows so your Return On Investment is greater, and the hardware's nice to look at. That's not selling out, that's being a smart consumer.

jag
 
I feel I should clarify something [specifically because Jag is making me look like an ass :cmad:]

I didn't say that Vista doesn't suck. Nor did I say that it does. It just really annoys me and pisses me off when people try to discredit something by saying it sucks, simply because it doesn't cater to their individual needs. [EX: Just because a video games is a JRPG 2D Sidescroller doesn't mean it sucks. Not for you, maybe, but not sucky. ]
 
I didn't even bring your name or anything you said up, Drak. But...Vista does suck. :oldrazz:

jag
 
I know. But if I was going down on the first date, I'm taking you with me.
 
Without going into details, Windows Vista was built using Windows Server 2003 codes because of better security stuff.

Knowing that, I'm uncertain that dozens of my graphic-intensive games will work smoothly under Vista.
 
I took a quick stroll through Vista at a store the other day.



It's like having an entire computer/OS built by AOL.


Shouldn't they have just made Windows work better? Just a thought. :oldrazz:
 
Vista needs to work on its flaws, I don't think anyone will claim it's perfect.
XP has quite a few flaws when it first came out, but XP turned out to be a great system. Vista is not the Zune...
 
Vista needs to work on its flaws, I don't think anyone will claim it's perfect.
XP has quite a few flaws when it first came out, but XP turned out to be a great system. Vista is not the Zune...

No, it's worse than the Zune and it's sales numbers reflect that. The only people "buying" Vista are people who buy new computers. Windows XP was built on the backs of Windows NT and Windows 2000, both of which were easily MS's most stable and secure operating systems, so of course it eventually somewhat leveled out after a rocky start. The technology in Vista is total spaghetti code with new features and a new UI and brings a whole new slew of instabilities, incompatibilities, performance issues and security problems to the table; much, much more than XP ever had by far. Add in some newly minted uber-draconian licensing and anti-piracy schemes, a confusing product line with too many dumbed-down versions of the OS for consumers to try and figure out which one they need, and licensing that's not only expensive but more limiting to the purchaser than ever before, and it's a recipe for failure. Vista is DOA.

jag
 
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070315_101834.htm

Technology & You March 15, 2007, 6:37PM EST text size: TT
Vista: Slow and Dangerous
The security program in Microsoft's new version of Windows is so annoying you're likely to turn it off. And that's risky

by Stephen H. Wildstrom

When I write a column, I almost never feel I have had enough time using the product under review. Even in the rare instance in which deadlines aren't bearing down, I often realize later on that I've missed a fair amount. In the case of Microsoft's Windows Vista, flaws that I thought would grow less annoying with extended use have actually become more troublesome.

Most of the time I spent testing Vista was with sluggish pre-release versions. I expected things to improve when I ran the finished software on PCs configured for the new Windows version. I now realize that Vista really is slow unless you throw a lot of hardware at it. Microsoft (MSFT) claims it will run with 512 megabytes of memory. I had recommended a minimum of a gigabyte, but 2 GB is more like it if you want snappy performance. This is especially true if you're also running resource-hungry Microsoft Office 2007.

The most exasperating thing about Vista, though, is the security feature called User Account Control. UAC, satirized in an Apple (AAPL) ad as a security guy who constantly interrupts a conversation, appears as a pop-up asking permission before Windows will do a number of things: change system settings, install programs, or update antivirus software. UAC may well be necessary to block malicious programs from secretly installing themselves or hijacking your browser settings. But Microsoft has designed it to drive you nuts.
Turn-Off Temptation

A recent experience demonstrates what I mean. I was working away when Windows OneCare, Microsoft's extra-cost security program, suddenly popped open a window asking me if it should give a program called wercon.exe access to the network. To begin with, this is a question that would mystify nearly everyone. (It turns out wercon.exe is a tool that sends error reports back to Microsoft.) When I clicked O.K., UAC asked me if it should let OneCare proceed. You would think Windows would be able to figure this out for itself and that these different security components would work together. But Vista leaves it all to the user to sort out.

There's a real danger here: UAC is such a nag that many folks will just turn it off, which Microsoft has made quite easy to do. Disabling UAC is especially tempting if you have set up limited accounts for your children that let you restrict the sort of Web sites they can visit, the programs they can run, and the amount of time they can spend on the computer. With limited accounts, the kids will have to find a parent whenever a UAC window pops up. But if you give them unlimited accounts to deal with UAC requests, they can undo any restrictions.

Unfortunately, turning off UAC severely weakens Vista's defenses. In a study of Vista security, Symantec researcher Orlando Padilla found that without UAC, Vista's resistance to hostile software was similar to that of Windows XP. Before Vista, Windows promiscuously let programs install new software and make system changes without any notice to the user. UAC goes way too far the other way, requiring intervention for many innocent actions. The version of UAC in Mac OS X works much better, rarely popping up except during a software installation or upgrade.
Immediate Pain

As for general usability, I still have trouble finding once-familiar features that have been hidden in odd places. For example, unlike XP's My Network button, an item on Vista's main menu called Network does not give access to any network settings.

Things don't have to be this way. I've spent as much time with the redesigned Office 2007, and it feels quite comfortable. I'm sure I'll get used to Vista's quirks, Microsoft will smooth out the rough edges, and, in time, Vista's many attractions will outweigh the drawbacks. For now, though, it's a pain.




I honestly can't believe people actually pay Microsoft for their beta software. And that's exactly what Vista is; half-baked and unfinished, not ready for market.

jag
 
You fell for my joke, jag. I KNEW you'd say something Anti-Vista.
How could I click "Post" if my laptop stopped working? ;)

Honestly, it's been great with my computer. Probably because my laptop was built ready for Vista. I haven't had really any problems, and that Firefox thing was fixed with a simple re-install.

fran
 

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