The Dark Knight Why doesn't Batman KICK?? *also question about Joker scene in movie..

[T-CLIPSE]

Yeah. You're right. I think we should see all transition scenes in the film.

No not all transition scenes, only scenes that are pivotal to the transition.

In TDK, the dogs puncture Bruce's suit in the elbow joint area, where it is not as padded, due to mobility. One would think that that particular area isn't as protected, due to its non-central location and required use for movement.

That explanation actually makes sense and I'll just accept that one.

Okay another question,

When Batman and Rachel fell from that penthouse did they hit that car at full speed?

 

[batman11]

No not all transition scenes, only scenes that are pivotal to the transition.

Honestly though, what did you think? He evaporated through the walls? t:

 

[Brother Jack]

Okay another question,

When Batman and Rachel fell from that penthouse did they hit that car at full speed?

Batman has his cape half-extended (with the hand not holding Rachel), so they fall slower in a spinning motion. So no they didn't fall at full-speed, and that's why neither of them were hurt.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Honestly though, what did you think? He evaporated through the walls? t:

No what I thought was that it was a amaturish looking gap in the scene that needs a smoother transition so as to illustrate how a person can get out of a room that locks from the outside.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Batman has his cape half-extended (with the hand not holding Rachel), so they fall slower in a spinning motion. So no they didn't fall at full-speed, and that's why neither of them were hurt.

Okay I've only got a few more questions so you guys bear with me,

How did Bruce know he had to go put Harvey in a headlock and stuff him in the back room because the Joker was on his way up to the penthouse?

 

[batman11]

No what I thought was that it was a amaturish looking gap in the scene that needs a smoother transition so as to illustrate how a person can get out of a room that locks from the outside.

Well, I can't fault an opinion. Your lack of imagination and logic however, is, in my opinion of course, questionable. In particular, I really don't see how this was "amateurish" as you put it. Wouldn't the "amateur" way be actually showing it to the audience and spoon-feeding them, instead of trusting them to actually understand a relatively simple and logical plot point? Then again, it's such a small bit that I really can't for the life of me understand why it's of such importance to you. The editing fit the scene, and the explanation (to me anyways) could not have been clearer. What did you honestly think happened when you saw the film? Now I'm curious.

As for your other question, we see, literally in the first 15 minutes of the movie, a slew of surveillance monitors that Bruce has in the bunker. You don't think that maybe he has one or two computers in the penthouse so that he can keep an eye on what's going on in Gotham? He's freakin Batman for Christ's sake. Come on dude. t:

 

[Door Noob]

Okay I've only got a few more questions so you guys bear with me,

How did Bruce know he had to go put Harvey in a headlock and stuff him in the back room because the Joker was on his way up to the penthouse?

If you live in a condo building or apartment building, etc... There is usually a camera in the main entrance to the building that's ussully viewable on the tv, and plus Bruce probabilly has his own camers in the building.

For the kicks though, Keysi Fighting Method was used in the movie a lot, and as some might know, Keysi isn't BIG on kicks, it;s close quarter combat, and you mainy use your upper body as a weapon.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

What did you honestly think happened when you saw the film? Now I'm curious.

Okay, it's not that I think your explanation is wrong clearly if the door locks from the outside somebody clearly had to buzz him out, however in my opinion it's negligience on behalf of the director to require the audience to draw their own assumption as to what happened. I believe it's a very contrieved escape sequence that Nolan for lack of his own imagination could not logically explain first of all why a dangerous murderer is not in handcuffs or restraints, is being guarded from inside the room for no logical reason. (Which obviously the real reason why he's in the room is to serve as a convenient Joker escape vehicle for Nolan, because from within the framework of the story itself it makes no sense for him to be in there) Nolan just placed him there as a matter of convenience because he needed a way for the Joker to get out. It just smacks of lazy storytelling for me.

It would have been better for me if no one was in the room with him, maybe have the Joker fake some kind of seizure or something (or by some means draw the cops inside the room) and then attack.

As for your other question, we see, literally in the first 15 minutes of the movie, a slew of surveillance monitors that Bruce has in the bunker. You don't think that maybe he has one or two computers in the penthouse so that he can keep an eye on what's going on in Gotham? He's freakin Batman for Christ's sake. Come on dude. t:

It's the same kind of thing, I don't want to assume that's what happened, I want to see a blinking red security light or something, or I want Alfred looking at one of the monitors (even if we as the audience don't even see what he's looking at) and then him walking up to Bruce and saying "Master Bruce, we're about to have company who aren't on the guest list." or something like that and then go from that to the headlock scene and it would have been a lot smoother.

I don't want to assume, I want to know.

 

[Door Noob]

I don't want to assume, I want to know.

Wow... you must hate a lot of movies.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Wow... you must hate a lot of movies.

No not a lot, however I'll admit to being a lot more critical than most people, especially when it comes to films with obvious severe gaps in logic.