The Dark Knight Will Batman's cowl and costume remain the same?

[Webhead38]

I always thought the treatment given to Batman's look in "Begins" was strictly a work in progress. Is Warner Bros. simply going to evolve him into the Michael Keaton look or is there a possibility for something closer to the Neal Adams' Batman? Blue and grey hues maybe? I think people would flip if Warner Bros finally got away from the concept look and actually gave the fans the classic comic book version. I think it would go over very well.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The suit is fine... I hate the yellow in the middle.... just leave it as is...

 

[The Fallen]

Leave the suit the way it is. I hate that the batsuit always has to change. The suit serves a purpose in the movie, to be intimitating and stelathy, and it works. What works in the comics can't always work in the movies, it can for some, but not all, and Batman is one of them.

 

[The Fallen]

Just let him turn his neck in the Batsuit and it's perfect.

Well in the current suit he can, maybe not fully, but I doubt any suit they make will allow for full movement.

 

[The Shape]

a work in progress? that cowl was one of the best aspects of the new suit, along with the cape. it better be left alone.

 

[Boom]

My main problem with the suit was that it just didn't blend into the atmosphere of the movie as well as I would've liked it to. I know it was supposed to be a high-tech suit in the context of the movie, but try as I might, I couldn't see it as anything else than rubber. It kinda took me out of the movie. I don't care how they do it, but they need to do something to the suit to get rid of the blatant foam latex look. Give it a texture, paint it, whatever you have to.

This goes without saying, but improving flexibility and mobility is always important. This time around, I want them to try and minimize the amount of creasing the suit does. Perhaps applying the suit as pieces of prosthetics could help(?). Luckily it wasn't too noticable in the final product, but when you could see the creasing, it was kind of an eye sore (IMO).

The cowl needs serious work and redesigning. The thing is ****ing ugly. The huge jawbones, combined with the ears curving inward, make him look chunky and (to put it simply) stupid. If ANYTHING is to be changed on the suit, this is the priority. Change the ears, and reduce the size of the jawbones. And like with the suit, work on the flexibility of the cowl. I want to see Batman be able to turn his head, and by that I mean looking over his shoulder (at least).

As for the cape, lighten the color of it so it matches the suit. Also, get rid of the clasps and join the cape together at the collar bone.

Everything else is fine.

 

[Boom]

The bold is the only thing I agree with; I don't know about anyone else.

It's really up to Nolan in the end. Honestly, none of us know what Nolan's thoughts on the suit are at the point (if he has any at all).

For all we know, he could very well decide that he wants to tweak the design a bit. It's nothing unheard of.

I really do expect to see SOME alterations to the design. They're bound to happen. Even Spider-Man's suit from the first movie, which many thought was flawless, was tweaked for the sequel. A year after the first movie's release, I'm sure Nolan would have some changes that he feel would make for a better suit, even if they're small.

Some of you say the Begins suit is perfect, but I'm sure if Nolan did make changes, you'd be the saying the exact same thing about the new suit as well (this isn't meant as an attack).

 

[SHF]

I say the cowl needs to be slimmed down a bit looks too bulky and maybe have the cape modified so it can cover up he whole body.

 

[Ratwing Returns]

I don't see how dislike for the original costume could take away from your viewing experience. I mean, with all the closeup shots, the dark suit itself...it was visibly difficult to see, so how would it take away from the film?

 

[Payle Gray]

I will be very suprised if the suit isn't at least a little different. WB wants to sell NEW Batman merchandise.

 

[DAVIDYR1]

The problem of Merchandising in the past is what was the heart of the demise of the original 4 films.
Hopefully, Batman Begins wont evolve that way with it's sequels..
Having said that...could some things change regardless?? Sure..why not?
First let me say I love the suit as is.

OK...look at it from this point of view...the Tumbler was filmed and shown on TV during the helicopter chase sequence. You dont think some ex Wayne Corp employee would recognize it?? That right there is reason enought to customize it a bit. I'm not saying cover it in little bats or give it neon lighting but some small tweaks.

The suit...well, when Fox pulls the suit out of the cabinet it's a huge dresser like storage unit with other doors also. What if there are other earlier prototype military suits in there? Again...why not?

I'm fine with them changing the suit and stuff...just follow the same logic as Begins and I'll be happy.

As for the whole creases and buckles in the suit...sorry..personally I dont buy it one bit. We saw all those creases in the photos released but in the film you have a hard enough time seeing the suits details because it's always just a big black shadow that actually making out any buckles is next to impossible. It's a movie..it's a costume...it's going to move, react, look, and feel like something man made no matter how close this is to a comic book movie you are not going to eliminate that aspect of the costume. Some call it a flaw...I say that is the highest and best technically advanced foam costume to date in Hollywood...beaten only by the Nomax suit which itself deserves and Oscar for it's technical achievement.

David

 

[Boom]

The suit...well, when Fox pulls the suit out of the cabinet it's a huge dresser like storage unit with other doors also. What if there are other earlier prototype military suits in there? Again...why not?

I thought of this as well, and it is a perfectly reasonable explanation for bringing in a new suit. One line of dialogue is all that is needed to explain this.

 

[kame-sennin]

My main problem with the suit was that it just didn't blend into the atmosphere of the movie as well as I would've liked it to. I know it was supposed to be a high-tech suit in the context of the movie, but try as I might, I couldn't see it as anything else than rubber. It kinda took me out of the movie. I don't care how they do it, but they need to do something to the suit to get rid of the blatant foam latex look. Give it a texture, paint it, whatever you have to.

This goes without saying, but improving flexibility and mobility is always important. This time around, I want them to try and minimize the amount of creasing the suit does. Perhaps applying the suit as pieces of prosthetics could help(?). Luckily it wasn't too noticable in the final product, but when you could see the creasing, it was kind of an eye sore (IMO).

The cowl needs serious work and redesigning. The thing is ****ing ugly. The huge jawbones, combined with the ears curving inward, make him look chunky and (to put it simply) stupid. If ANYTHING is to be changed on the suit, this is the priority. Change the ears, and reduce the size of the jawbones. And like with the suit, work on the flexibility of the cowl. I want to see Batman be able to turn his head, and by that I mean looking over his shoulder (at least).

As for the cape, lighten the color of it so it matches the suit. Also, get rid of the clasps and join the cape together at the collar bone.

Everything else is fine.

I agree with everything except lightening the cape. I think the goal that you have could be reached by darknening the cowl instead. However I agree with you that the cape and cowl should be the same tone.

Some of you say the Begins suit is perfect, but I'm sure if Nolan did make changes, you'd be the saying the exact same thing about the new suit as well (this isn't meant as an attack).

QFT

 

[JokerNick]

as long as there's bat nipples, I'm cool with it

 

[kame-sennin]

Leave the suit the way it is. I hate that the batsuit always has to change. The suit serves a purpose in the movie, to be intimitating and stelathy, and it works. What works in the comics can't always work in the movies, it can for some, but not all, and Batman is one of them.

You really shouldn't make a statement like that considering that it hasn't ever been tried (no, DE doesn't count). No studio has ever poured thousands of dollars into making a faithful, aesthetically pleasing, *high quality* Batman costume. Until we see a multi-million dollar Batman film attempt such a feat, I feel it is unfair to say that it is impossible to pull off.

The suit is fine... I hate the yellow in the middle.... just leave it as is...

I think it was obvious in Batman Begins that his costume was some what of a "first draft". Whether you like the suit or not, it had a very unfinished look, which I believe was intentional. There will most likely be a new suit in the next film. That said, I don't think there should be a new costume in each film. It just needs to be updated and "finished" in the next film, and they can keep the costume the same from then on.

As for the whole creases and buckles in the suit... I say that is the highest and best technically advanced foam costume to date in Hollywood...beaten only by the Nomax suit which itself deserves and Oscar for it's technical achievement.

David

But why be limited to foam rubber in the first place?

 

[DAVIDYR1]

But why be limited to foam rubber in the first place?

You certainly dont have to. No doubt about that. My point was simply that the buckling is not a 'movie' issue considering the suits is never really seen in action other than it seeming to be a black shadow. You see the cowl, cape and gauntlets a lot and can make out the details but hardly ever is the case with the suit itself.
Want to see it in another material?? I'm fine with that...

David

 

[JokerNick]

okay, what do you guys think about nipples on the suit?

 

[Boom]

You're very persistent, aren't you?

 

[Katsuro]

annoying is more like it.

 

[y2jversion1]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I hope they don't change anything about the suit (or anything else for that matter)

 

[JokerNick]

You're very persistent, aren't you?

you sound like my Girl friend now. lol

whats the deal though, why do people not like the nipples.....

Batsuit nipples and Gredo shooting first are like the most hated things ever in the geek universe

 

[Boom]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I hope they don't change anything about the suit (or anything else for that matter)

If it ain't broken, don't fix it...but a tune-up never hurts .

 

[gillberg2k1]

It'll change. No doubt.

The goal with any sequel is to improve upon the solid foundations laid in the film before it. So, I'd expect they'll firstly improve things mechanically. I.E. Any problems they encountered on set will addressed first. For instance, if Nolan needed a shot of Batman turning his head and the Begins incarnation couldn't do this effectively enough for the shot, then that issue will be at the top of the list.

Now, in doing that, they'll obviously have to make some cosmetic updates as well, simply to keep the suit new and fresh. But obviously thats a secondary concern to performance.

Expect it to look very similar, but very new at the same time. Probably a bit sleeker, and not as rough around the edges. They'll also get to experiment with some technology that they wanted to use in the first one but didnt have time, so that's a factor as well.

 

[StorminNorman]

If the Batsuit changes at all they will be rather small.

 

[Octoberist]

I want the cowl to be less elongated. Sometimes it looks too tight on Bale (when Batman was explaing Ra's plan to Gordon).

Make the suit even more flexible and that's it.