Will Ireland be independent in our lifetime?

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And will the celebrations be similar to the Ewoks in Star Wars??

This is what has been going on recently.

What happened was, we had this thing called the Good Friday Agreement like 10 years ago or more, where the parties of this country agreed that if everyone could fulfill certain requirments, we'd have a "power sharing" insitution set up. Basically that means our politicians will have alot of power, but still part of Britain with the Prime Minister getting the last word and stuff. But its basically the first step to a United Ireland (the north once again uniting with the south).

But the whole thing very quickly fell apart. The DUP refused to sit and talk with Sinn Fein, and some people blame Sinn Fein for not giving up enough concessions.

Eventually, a few years later, the IRA decommissioned all of their weapons.

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Clear evidence the IRA did NOT give up their weapons! :cmad: Look at that little rebel!

But the DUP had a whole hub bub about "we haven't seen photos of the decommissioned weapons! There's bound to be more weapons lying around, how do we know they decommssioned them all??" etc etc. So we got nowhere with that. And alot of people accused the IRA of still being active, despite the lack of evidence of this, and the fact that the watchdogs whos job it is to oversee all of this said the IRA had little or no activities left.

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Look at Gerry Adams there in his younger days!

This year, Sinn Fein accepted the rule of policing. This was an important move, because for decades the police have been seen by Catholics as being corrupt, heavy handed, with secterian connections. Indeed, it had emerged not long before Sinn Fein accepted policing that the RUC (the police are now known as the PSNI) back in the day had conspired with loyalist terrorists to murder innocent Catholics. There was a small movement of Sinn Fein who absolutely did not want Sinn Fein to accept the rule of policing - it was a big move - but it had to be done, and that was that.

So, Tony Blair announced that this year we would have elections. This is the first time we have had elections since 2003. Can you imagine a western country that can't elect their own politicians in this day and age?? Pretty crazy. But at the start of March, we had our elections.

The DUP got the majority of votes, with Sinn Fein in second. That means, if the power sharing executive would go ahead, that Ian Paisley would be First Minister and Martin McGuinness the deputy First Minister. The problem is, is that DUP throughout the whole year has been insisting there is no way they would sit and share power with Sinn Fein.

The deadline for them to sort out if they would share power, or if the WHOLE entire process would fall apart, was monday. Ian Paisley has NEVER directly spoken to leadership of Sinn Fein - until Monday. Pictures of Ian sitting next to Gerry Adams - something alot of people see as the equivalent of pigs flying - were broadcast around the world. The two parties agreed to share power in 6 weeks time.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6494599.stm

It's one of the most important days for politics in about 40 years.

It's a very positive time. And I'm personally a little weirded out by how positive the DUP are being. I mean, we're talking about a party whose leader has made his career for the last 40 years screaming "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!".

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The DUP have even stopped referring to Sinn Fein as IRA/Sinn Fein.

So, this is how I think things will go, now that we are going to get a real devolved government. Sinn Fein and DUP will share power. A few years down the line... I'm not sure... maybe 10 or 15 years, they'll agree to let the public take a vote on independence. The public will vote in favour of independence, the North will break off from Britain, and unite with the south of Ireland. Something I didn't think I'd see till I was an old man, if at all.

A few months back, a nut case called Michael Stone stormed the Stormont building trying to murder the DUP and Sinn Fein, afraid that the DUP would agree to share power with Sinn Fein. The whole thing was captured by news teams... the following clip has been edited by an idiot... Michael Stone, and the guy that edited the video, are a dying breed of idiots...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46U7970Jlo
 
Who cares?

have your little bit of Ireland, we don't want it, take Wales too. We just didn't want to see it in the hands of terrorists *COUGH*SinnFein*COUGH*
 
As much as I would like to comment on this issue, I wouldn't have so much as a screwhead's idea of what I'm talking about, so I must refrain from getting involved.
 
I couldn't careless if northen Ireland was part of great britian or not. It makes little difference to my daily life. If Power sharing brings peace then I am all for it. I think the hardest part is for people to move on and try to forgive the things in the past and look to the future.

One of the things that always struck me as odd is the whole religious element. Protestant versus catholic. Their both christianity so why the beef. I know religion is still pretty strong ireland.
 
You western europeans make me laugh. With your lifts and your boots.
 
The north voting on independance is not guaranteed.....I always thought the catholics were a minority in the North and the protestants were in favor of staying with Britain?
 
The north voting on independance is not guaranteed.....I always thought the catholics were a minority in the North and the protestants were in favor of staying with Britain?

Thats changing... the number of Catholics is soon going to match that of Protestants. And besides, alot of ordinary people don't care either way. These people could be swayed if they thought the economic benifets, aswell as other benifets, of being independent were worth it.
 
It's horrible but I've just never been able to care about the situation in Ireland.
I need to see more gut-wrenching docudramas about it, I guess.
 
Viva la drunkards!
 
Maybe if you had better Superheros than Banshee and Syrin. :huh:
 
No one reads X-Factor but you. :o :cmad:
 
Heres some more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMFn-cWjtY

Note how the idiot that uploaded this labeled it "Michael stone preforming heroics" :whatever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46U7970Jlo

Michael Stone again, about 2 decades later. Again, uploaded by an idiot that supports him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Tl1v2IKqs

Everyone should watch this one. I wish I could find better clips of it. But basically, for the period of a few weeks, these kids got attacked by angry mobs everyday while trying to get to school. It was some of the most disgusting stuff I ever saw on the news.
 
Maybe if you had better Superheros than Banshee and Syrin. :huh:

Technically, we have Matt Murdock.

But yeah. We are severly lacking Irish superheroes :(


Hey everone!! Watch this!! It's an episode of Captain Planet in Belfast! It's hilarious! It has the wise message of - don't set off a nuke in your own city, you dumb son of a *****!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJrovKgrTw
 
damn it!!!!
well, I can only counter with civilized discourse.

**** N00b Madrox PwNs j00!!!11!!
 
Technically, we have Matt Murdock.

But yeah. We are severly lacking Irish superheroes :(

No we have Matt Murdock, he's just of Irish descent.

Seriously though. I think the best solution for the Ireland situation is that Norther Ireland be independent of both Ireland and the United Kingdom.
 

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