Will SM3 be believable? or even logical?!

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Ok, i know you must suspend all beliefs and humanly characteristics for movies like this but, let me break down all the things that might (MIGHT) make this fail for regular movie-goers:

- An asteriod or whatever comes to earth with an alien substance on it which is like a parasite and can form to any shape, has intelligent thoughts and ideas and can cause its host to not be concious of its actions

-A man escapes a new jersey prision (i say NJ bc of the new photos on the front page) and ends up retreating to somekind of radiation or energy testing facility on a beach and gets caught up in it while sand particles form with his body.

- man goes insane due to a toxic serum/hallucenogen and flies through the air on a jet board with miniture bombs:bomb: and knives,while seeing his dead father order im around and have conversations with him.

- and also, if spidey just goes all black then why does Venom have large, sharp teeth and a large long tongue and spidey doesn't?:venom:

these are facts from the film which to me seem like the casual movie-goer may be angered/confused by


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mizzaxer said:
- man goes insane due to a toxic serum/hallucenogen and flies through the air on a jet board with miniture bombs:bomb: and knives.

Were many people confused after SM1 when this happened? Hmm...

Nailed you...
 
Its a movie based of a damn comic book, NOT a historical biography.
 
Yes, but ALL of these fictional stories in one movies?

did i mention i said CASUAL movie goers, not fans.

Nailed a 1/4 of my point.
 
mizzaxer said:
Yes, but ALL of these fictional stories in one movies?

did i mention i said CASUAL movie goers, not fans.

Nailed a 1/4 of my point.

Even for the CASUAL fan it wont be to far a stretch. They are going into the movie knowing it was a comic book. Its not like they are going in there and asking: "Wasnt this based on a true story??"
 
Have Faith In Sam!
 
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I'm pretty sure a lot of casual movie-goers were a part of the initial success of Spider-Man 1.

About Venom and his teeth, you're taking that without any evidence of what happens. We know that Curt Connor's part will be to explain what the heck the symbiote is. Nailed 2/4?

The only parts I can understand are the first two, and even still we don't know the details of how that will happen, so it could be handled in a probable way.
 
Its a movie based of a damn comic book, NOT a historical biography.
Indeed.

Fortunately, casual movie-goers are smart enough to know that Spider-Man and his villains are fictional characters, with fictional powers, within the realm of sci-fi/fantasy. Unfortunately, most Spider-Man die-hards are too stupid to realize this. Looks at idiotic thread starter.:rolleyes:
 
Ha yes yes it isnt a true story but all these things crammed in one a casual movie goer might get confused...or is my point bleak?


Let me say that stan lee and todd mcfarlene are geniuses, but every next movie seems more and more unbelieveable....what next a man finds a radioactive rock on the street, eats it and becomes rock man?
 
Visionary said:
Indeed.

Fortunately, casual movie-goers are smart enough to know that Spider-Man and his villains are fiction characters, with fictional powers, within the realm of sci-fi/fantasy. Unfortunately, most Spider-Man die-hrads are too stupid to realize this. Looks at idiotic thread starter.:rolleyes:
Which is why studio people don´t pay attention to anal-retentive nitpicky hardcore fanboys. You´ll go insane if you try to please those who´re impossible to please.
 
I don't see any of the audience having problems with the plausibility of Venom or the symbiote. With the general public, Venom has been the most popular Spider-Man villain, period, since the early 90's. I can't even begin to count the amount of people I've heard asking "When's Venom gonna be in a movie already??!".... so I think by now, people are pretty well aquainted to the idea of Spidey fighting alien costumes with teeth and claws. ;)

Sandman could be a little tricky, but its all in how its approached. I'm hoping they make it clear that many of the sand molecules are picked up from regular dirt, so it'll be easier to explain his many size changes and how he can lose and regain mass so quickly.

But really, when it comes to regular movie goers, they ain't gonna be screaming about how physically impossible it is when Sandman smashes a fist onto the ground and floods the street with sand.... I think if anything the more likely response is probably going to be the same as with the comic fans --- an enthusiastic "**** YEAH!!!". :D ;)
 
ultimatefan said:
Which is why studio people don´t pay attention to anal-retentive nitpicky hardcore fanboys. You´ll go insane if you try to please those who´re impossible to please.
Exactly.
 
lets play a game its called flame mizzaxer for asking peoples opionions
 
We just think you're jumping the gun a bit, especially seeing as we don't know how most of those storylines will be handled. We've seen a boy get bit by a spider and then be able to shoot webs from his wrists...It's kinda hard to trump that.
 
mizzaxer said:
Ok, i know you must suspend all beliefs and humanly characteristics for movies like this but, let me break down all the things that might (MIGHT) make this fail for regular movie-goers:

- An asteriod or whatever comes to earth with an alien substance on it which is like a parasite and can form to any shape, has intelligent thoughts and ideas and can cause its host to not be concious of its actions

-A man escapes a new jersey prision (i say NJ bc of the new photos on the front page) and ends up retreating to somekind of radiation or energy testing facility on a beach and gets caught up in it while sand particles form with his body.

- man goes insane due to a toxic serum/hallucenogen and flies through the air on a jet board with miniture bombs:bomb: and knives,while seeing his dead father order im around and have conversations with him.

- and also, if spidey just goes all black then why does Venom have large, sharp teeth and a large long tongue and spidey doesn't?:venom:

these are facts from the film which to me seem like the casual movie-goer may be angered/confused by


Discuss
Yet a teenage prodigy making webshooters was too unrealistic.

Sam Raimi is a hypocrite.
 
yes i just think it MAY be more believeable to have the Ultimate origin of venom...the labrotory version...but the space one would work to.

i mean superman did it? haha a continent of crystals....who comes up with that crap? spidey would rock supes any day. especially dark spidy.
 
mizzaxer said:
Ok, i know you must suspend all beliefs and humanly characteristics for movies like this but, let me break down all the things that might (MIGHT) make this fail for regular movie-goers:

- An asteriod or whatever comes to earth with an alien substance on it which is like a parasite and can form to any shape, has intelligent thoughts and ideas and can cause its host to not be concious of its actions

-A man escapes a new jersey prision (i say NJ bc of the new photos on the front page) and ends up retreating to somekind of radiation or energy testing facility on a beach and gets caught up in it while sand particles form with his body.

- man goes insane due to a toxic serum/hallucenogen and flies through the air on a jet board with miniture bombs:bomb: and knives,while seeing his dead father order im around and have conversations with him.

- and also, if spidey just goes all black then why does Venom have large, sharp teeth and a large long tongue and spidey doesn't?:venom:

these are facts from the film which to me seem like the casual movie-goer may be angered/confused by


Discuss



THE MOVIE IS BASED ON A COMIC!!!

That means if you were to steer clear of these stories you would end up doing things like Schumacher did with the Batman franchise.

And you are telling me The green goblin flying around on a sled like device, Doc Ock with IMPERVIOUS tentacles, and a man who can stick to walls does not defy reality??

You are the one who seems illogical!:down :mad:
 
miz, babe, don't question the raimi. You'll get thrashed.

You're right to be concerned though. Raimi's goal was to make spidey more realistic from the start and that seems to have been decided against now. It'll probably not be a big deal to people that don't think webshooters were such an outragious idea when stan lee came up with it, so it'll be ok...
 
mizzaxer said:
Ok, i know you must suspend all beliefs and humanly characteristics for movies like this but, let me break down all the things that might (MIGHT) make this fail for regular movie-goers:

- An asteriod or whatever comes to earth with an alien substance on it which is like a parasite and can form to any shape, has intelligent thoughts and ideas and can cause its host to not be concious of its actions

-A man escapes a new jersey prision (i say NJ bc of the new photos on the front page) and ends up retreating to somekind of radiation or energy testing facility on a beach and gets caught up in it while sand particles form with his body.

- man goes insane due to a toxic serum/hallucenogen and flies through the air on a jet board with miniture bombs:bomb: and knives,while seeing his dead father order im around and have conversations with him.

- and also, if spidey just goes all black then why does Venom have large, sharp teeth and a large long tongue and spidey doesn't?:venom:

these are facts from the film which to me seem like the casual movie-goer may be angered/confused by


Discuss

First, I'd like to say, good post.

Sam will make them believe. And this movie will kick some major you know what.
 
thanks for actually appreciating my post your the first one to actually admire something i've done! haha my ally!
 
Visionary said:
Indeed.

Fortunately, casual movie-goers are smart enough to know that Spider-Man and his villains are fictional characters, with fictional powers, within the realm of sci-fi/fantasy. Unfortunately, most Spider-Man die-hards are too stupid to realize this. Looks at idiotic thread starter.:rolleyes:

QFT..Please someone close this im getting a headache..
 

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