Henry Cavil Will Not Return As Superman - Will You Miss Him In The Role?

Will You Miss Henry Cavil As The Man Of Steel?

  • Yes - I’m sad that he’s gone.

    Votes: 28 43.1%
  • No - I’m happy he’s gone.

    Votes: 37 56.9%

  • Total voters
    65
I was born in 1992 so I'm part of that weird generation where we never really had 'our' definitive version of Superman, at least not on the big screen.

It feels so bizarre just typing that. Supes is the grandaddy of superheroes. How can we have definitive versions of Captain America, Thor, and Ant-Man, but not a big screen equivalent for Kal-El??

And to anser the question, no I won't miss Cavill in the role. As many have already expressed, he never resonated with me as Superman. He has an innate otherworldliness to him that's aesthetically right for the part, at least superficially, but he doesn't project the warmth, kindness, decency, and nobility that are integral to the character.

Here's hoping they finally get the casting right this time. It's only been, what, 40 years since the last universally loved big screen Superman??
 
As much as I feel sorry for him for how much of a raw deal he got with how the studio and Zack Snyder wrote and treated his character, honestly, no, not really.

I honestly never connected with his version on any level. He felt more like a cipher for Snyder’s Randian philosophical musings than an actual character with any personal motivations or personality. He was such a reactive human nothing of an action figure with the charm and acting prowess of a male model. After the three films that he was in, I’d be hard-pressed to say off the top of my head who he actually was, any of his traits or why he did what he did. Cyborg, ****ing Cyborg, got more character development in just a few scenes in Justice League than Henry Cavill’s take on “The Big Blue Boy Scout” did in his entire tenure. That’s just…sad.

He’s got his hands full with his passion project of working on Warhammer 40K, which he has more creative control over and should keep him occupied for years and years to come. He’ll be fine.
 
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In 1978 Superman The Movie was quite a huge movie event, with lots of PR, magazines articles and stuff (at least compared to all the internet stuff today). As a 12 year old I felt kinda luxourious to have another big movie event happening, since I'd went to see Star Wars just the year before. And that was of course even more crazy, if we yet again consider this was in the 70s, and how advertising and PR worked back then. Star Wars was just an incomparable fun ride for an 11 yo in 1977. Best. Movie. Experience. Ever.

Anyhows, finally I could watch Superman on the big screen instead of all these Curt Swan/Dick Giordano/Neil Adams comic book panels I've been reading through the 70s. Funny thing is my dad insisted to come with me to see this film.

At first I was: "Why, I'm no kid anymore, and you never felt the need to "guard me" in previous films?" In the next second I totally understood him. Of course he wanted to watch a modern high budget Superman movie (with Marlon Brando no less) in his age, having only the Max Fleischer cartoons/George Reeves versions as cinematic reference in late 40s/early 50s. But going alone back then to watch a comic book movie as a grown up? It was different times (at least in my country)..

Needless to say, we had a great time watching S:TM toghether. I especially remember my dad reacting to the classic helicopter scene, and how impressed he was by that. S:TM is far from perfect, and we can always discuss how that good or bad this flick has aged 40+ years later. But Chris Reeve made up for any of those possible flaws with his charisma. We totally bought him then, and still does as Superman. I personally can even somehow enjoy those last clearly horrible Superman films, just because of him.

Superman Returns just kinda came and went. I do remember though being curious about MOS and talked with my dad about watching it, and he was kinda curious as well. Well afterwards since it turned out I happended to watched it alone, I'm so ****ing glad I didn't bring my old dad with me, he would've been totally confused about this bleak and depressing version of Superman.

I'm today not even sure if it was Cavill (he sure looked the role) or Snyder who disappointed me the most, but this was a very far cry from what I consider Superman.

I couldn't help but feeling a bit sorry for Cavill with the whole ridiculous and stupid Dwayne Johnson/Black Adam debacle. But whenever watching seriously uplifting Superman content like the TV show Superman and Lois, I'm rest assure I wont ever miss him.


tl;dr: Nope, he had the looks but still not my Superman. Recasting is fine by me.
 
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Cavill was criminally underused in his tenure as Superman. If Matt Reeves had directed MOS, he’d still be playing the character now.
 
Miss him hugely. He really was done the dirty by the studio.
 
1. No, not even a little bit.
2. I never loved his version of Superman to begin with.
3. Do I think he got sold a bill of goods? Yes, but them's the breaks. Brandon Routh didn't become a big star post-Superman Returns either.
4. I maintain he was miscast as Superman. He was better suited to play Batman/Bruce Wayne. He just doesn't come off like an aspirational figure. He does brooding loner bit well which works better for Bats.
 
I think he is a terrible actor. He has a very limited range and can’t do an American accent at all. I think him as Geralt works, but he was a terrible Superman. He looked great in the role though.
 
I think the tornado scene was the dumbest of the dumb.
Who would stand there and watch your father die, knowing you could save them?
Superpowers remaing a secret or not.
No way that ( most ) people with a heart would have did that.

That is just not in clark's character either.

I would have written that scene differently.
Everything leading up to it would have been the same.
The Clark and Jonathan arguing scene while in the car, etc.

Clarks senses, ie, superhearing, sight, etc haven't fully developed just yet. They are at about 50%

The tornado arrives. Jonathan stops the car and jumps out.
He tells Clark to go get those people and I'll get these.

They are both off saving people separately.
over half a mile now separates them.

The tornado closes in. The sound is deafening. We see people running for their lives.

Jonathan gets distracted by the sound of a dog, he attempts to save it.
The tornado closes in on him.

Clark is concentrating on the people he is saving and he doesn't know the tornado is closing in on Jonathan's location
( it's the same scene as in Mos, Jonathan saved the dog, he broke his foot. )

Jonathan calls out......clark.

Clark is busy saving people and doesn't hear him. He points at the bridge and tells them to run there.
It feels good saving people he thinks.
He returns a smile to a grateful little girl he just saved.

Clark I love you son..............

Clark pauses......he hears something in the air.
He tilts his head slightly and focuses.
It almost seems like.........a whisper.

At first he thinks it's just the howling of the wind and debris, but he feels something more is there.
He closes his eyes and focuses harder, and finally pulls it out.

He hears his dad through the chaos.
"clark" the voice says.

Clark looks in the direction the sound is coming from.
He squints his eyes and concentrates.

He sees Jonathan through the debris.
The tornado has him.
Clarks eyes grow wide in terror.

Jonathan knows clark sees him and he smiles at him.
He mouths the words goodbye, and take care of your mom......just as he goes airborn into the twister and disappears.

Clark takes off running at superspeed. ( he can't fly yet )
Everything around him slows down ( similar to flash speed ) and he enters the tornado.

Flying debris is all around and tries to hit Clark, but he is moving much faster than it, and avoids most of the debris.
Cars, trees, pieces of homes, etc, rush at him, but he brushes them aside like tissue paper, he even uses some like steps to try and reach Jonathan.

He looks up. Jonathan is high above him.
Clark jumps onto a flying car, he uses it to springboard to a nearby flying rooftop, then on to a huge sign, to get higher.

Nothing else matters now but his father.
He focuses his hearing on Jonathan's heartbeat..... it's slowing.
Clark increases his speed even more.

He is now moving faster than he ever has.
He gets Close............. closer still to Jonathan.
It's a race against death itself.

Clark yells over the sound of the wind in a booming voice that he never knew he possessed.
DAD! TAKE MY HAND!!! REACH!!

Clark reaches out to Jonathan ( oh so Close )

Jonathan's dirt and blood covered hand reaches ( in slo mo ) out from the debris for clark, but it instantly disappears in a cloud of death.

Clark listens for Jonathan's heartbeat.
He hears it for a second, But then it ceases...

Clark slows his superspeed and stops.
Jonathan is gone.

The tornado travels off into the distance and disappears.

Clark lowers his head.
He bends forward, with his hands on his knees, and silently weeps.

He finally makes the long walk back towards Martha. His clothes are in a tattered and dirty mess.

As he walks, a small break in the clouds above him reveal the sun. It shines down on him.

Martha sees Clark coming, but he's alone.
He walks up to her.
The look on his face says it all.

she collapses in heartache and screams.
Several women standing nearby that Jonathan had saved, comfort her.

Next scene is of Clark on the farm a few weeks later, honing his senses.
Martha is by his side, offering encouragment.
I always felt that Clark could have manufactured a reason for Jonathan’s survival. And, Clark could have been moving so fast that nobody could see him clearly.
 
The thing is that movie missed a huge opportunity by killing Jonathan in that moment. Clark and he argued about Clark wanting to leave Smallville, and the movie right before had a scene of Jonathan telling Clark that he shouldn't risk himself for other people because they wouldn't accept him. Him saving Jonathan against Jonathan's wishes could have been a character moment for Clark in that he goes his own way, and wants to save people in spite of what Jonathan wants. In fact, that is what their argument SHOULD have been about, instead of Jonathan being upset about Clark not wanting to be a farmer.
 
I liked him in the role, so yes, will miss him to a degree. I thought he did a decent job and whilst I get all the criticisms of his Superman being more brooding and so on, it was very much how Snyder wrote that version of the character to work in his films. Physically he was great for the role, he was good in the action scenes, and I never noticed any issues with his accent (as mentioned above). Not that it's really important, but like Reeve, Routh and Hoechlin and so on before him, I also feel he was a good ambassador for the role.

I think the idea was that he would go through the challenges and struggles he faced in MOS and BvS (exposed to the word, then painted as a bad guy and ultimately giving is life against Doomsday to save everyone) and come back post-Justice League as a more optimistic and upbeat character who had been accepted by humanity and settled into his role. How well Snyder implemented that plan is up for debate, but I never felt Cavill was to blame for any of the furore around this version of the character. In any event, we'll never get to find out now that Gunn has taken over creative control.

With all that said, it's the nature of the industry - and missing Cavill doesn't mean I'm not excited to see what Corenswet does. There will always be new actors taking over superhero roles at some point.
 
I'll be honest, not really. I was one of his biggest supporters, but he wants to do other things, and I respect that.
 
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