Comics Working on Ult. Spider-Man submission, need villian idea

[Blader5489]

For someone looking for help, you're really being a dick about it.

Bottom line: Marvel isn't taking submissions anymore. And even when they were, they weren't hiring any of the people who submitted work. You can redesign as many characters as you want and send them in, Marvel isn't going to bat an eyelash at them. As long as you're investing your time in something, send it to a publisher who actually cares.

If you're think you're so good that your work will actually cause the company to reverse policy, then get ready for so humble pie.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090403-cebeulski-marvel-submissions.html

NRAMA: Okay C.B, we'll keep it brief and ask one last question which you've already touched on... as to the point as you can make it, can you run down the more effective ways to one day perhaps be considered for work at Marvel Comics?

CBC: I could go on for hours here, to be honest, and I have, on Twitter if anyone wants to go back and read through my old posts there, which is pretty easy.

Now I hate to be cliché, but there's the old saying that if you want to get published by Marvel, you need to get published somewhere else first. And there is some truth to this. There haven't been many creators who've broken in cold to Marvel with no other printed work under their belt. It's just so much easier for an editor to pick up a comic and read it to gauge your skills. It's actually the most effective way, to be honest.

Your style and storytelling come across in the manner it was meant to be presented... as a comic book. This also shows us that you've go the desire and motivation to be in comics as we now know you went out and did it on your own first and want to be in this biz, no matter what it takes.

Make sense?

And a few other quick bits... Be professional. Be patient. Get your work out there. Get published in any way, shape or form you can. Prove you want to be in comics and have what it takes to do so. Use the internet to you advantage to showcase your skills and build buzz. And lastly, be sure that Marvel is somewhere you want to be working. There are all kinds of opportunities for artists and creators in comics out there and you should never limit yourself. The sky's the limit in this digital day and age. But if you're going to submit to Marvel, make sure you want to be illustrating for Marvel. And if that is what you want, show us what you got!

 

[Dragon]

I didn't ask for submission advice, I asked for ideas on redesigning a character. You guys are goofballs. The artist doesn't invent the characters, the writer does. There's no harm in redesigning a character for fun for a submission, especially a lesser known one no one gives a crap about. It doesn't detract from your storytelling and it doesn't detract from how well you draw the established characters, which are already designed ahead of time by Marvel's better established artists. Give it up, guys.

Well, like I tell my martial arts students, there's a big difference between confidence and arrogance. One is based on knowledge the other on insecurity.

Since you're so sure you know it all, why are you here asking for ANY advice? You could've easily gone to an info site like Spider-Fan to see which characters have been redesigned for Ultimate Spidey. Hell, since you seem to think you're the next big thing in comics, you could redesign any character and Marvel will be foaming at the mouth, right? So go for it.

 

[mre]

I'd love to see a good ultimate version of Cardiac.
Also, this was the first Spidey comic I ever read. I like the story of the villain and his brother.

Web of Spider-Man 81

 

[shinlyle]

Okay, guys, easy on the man!

Robdixxo- Okay, man. I tell you this as a fellow artist and aspiring comic creator: You have some good stuff. Personally, I think your colors are the strongest aspect of your artwork, althought the rest is good, as well.

As for Marvel's submission policy, they aren't accepting mailed-in submissions...PERIOD. If Alex Ross actually tries to form an alias and start a new career fo that he can paint the Runaways, they won't even look at it.

That being said, Marvel is still accepting submissions through conventions. So, find a con where Marvel will have a booth, talk to an editor, and see what they think, man. I'd say to put together a packet for them, but editors REALLY don't want anything of yours to take form the con. Think about how many hundreds of people drop things off. They usually just trash them. Ask anyone. I would show them your stuff, and have a business card (MUCH easier to carry), and, if they are truly interested in your stuff, they'll contact you! Voila!

Also, for a submission, you want to use Marvel characters that are instantly recognizeable to the editor. If you do a redesign, and they have to say, "Who is this", then you haven't done your job. If I were you, I would do two or more characters who are easy to pick out, and then include some sketched and conceptual stuff for redesigns or re-imaginings. Just me.

I'm not knocking your chances of getting in, but the method of "I'll mail it and they'll accept me" is flawed. It's like trying to rule the Persian Empire....there is no Persian Empire anymore, just like there is no more open submissions at Marvel.

Also, the editors regularly look through Deviant Art and independant companies/books looking for there next artists. Show your stuff to other artists who work for Marvel, and they will help you get your name out there if they like your stuff.

As for the "I'm good enough", attitude, it probably won't fly with an editor, even if you are. They are looking for people who are willing to grow and learn, as well as someone who is easy to work with. Someone who already "knows" he is good enough may be very talented, but editors are looking for someone to bring into a team setting, man. Be a people person, and be ready for a very harsh critique!

That's it from me! I wish you the best, as you have some great stuff there. Have you got a Deviant Art account or anything? If so, I'll add you and stuff.

 

[mre]

You don't like my suggestions Robdixxo?

 

[shinlyle]

It's an eye-catching design, but nothing about this says "terrible" or "tinkerer" to me. He looks mor elike he should be living in the Africa, like he's Kraven's rugrat.

Also, there is the question of whether or not this is a) male or female or b)child or midget. I wouldn't look at this and say, "Wow, that's obviously a cool reimagining for the Terrible Tinkerer". It just looks like a cool little character design. I would expect the Tinkerer to be more tech-based. Maybe some welding goggles hanging clunsily from his neck, and some random tools and parts lying around him or attached to his belt. If you're making him a smaller person, then accentuate the awkward nature of the tools. Have them bigger in comparison to him, or something. Just my suggestion.

Definitely not something I would want as the focus of my submission....just saying. The colors are still the best part. You have some mad color skills. The rendering is great, too, I just don't know if this will help you accomplish your goal, man.


Also, no one here is against you, man. You seem to have this idea that people here want you to fail, which is not the case. Also, Marvel's submissions are still closed, and character redesigns from an artist not already in their fold would fall under the "unsolicited" label. They won't even look at anything like that. It goes to the shredder, man....and I don't mean the one who hangs with Krang.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Regarding the Tinkerer...
Is that an elf? If it's a normal human Why does he have earring on his hair?
The art is awesome, but it doesn't scream Terrible Tinkerer (From Marvel) Looks more like a JRPG character. Again the art is awesome, but something doesn't click...

 

[Ion Kenshin]

First off, that's racist. Just because he looks poor means he's from Africa?

And I never said it would be the focus of my submission. (You know, a lot of these walls of text can be avoided if you guys actually read previous posts.)

The story I had for him was that during the War of the Ring, a time rift opened up and Pippin got sucked into our time, but arrived in the same space that was being occupied by a dog. The two beings merged, creating a hobbit/dog mix. Having lost his memory and most of his intelligence, his canine instincts drove him to collect various things across the city of New York. Thus, he eventually evolved into the Terrible Tinkerer!

This is him after he turns evil:

Notice the heads of Thor and Captain Britain.

People may have been less confused about the look if you had posted that with the pic. Just a suggestion. Also ever think of trying The Beyonder?

 

[moraldeficiency]

First off, that's racist. Just because he looks poor means he's from Africa?

And I never said it would be the focus of my submission. (You know, a lot of these walls of text can be avoided if you guys actually read previous posts.)

The story I had for him was that during the War of the Ring, a time rift opened up and Pippin got sucked into our time, but arrived in the same space that was being occupied by a dog. The two beings merged, creating a hobbit/dog mix. Having lost his memory and most of his intelligence, his canine instincts drove him to collect various things across the city of New York. Thus, he eventually evolved into the Terrible Tinkerer!

This is him after he turns evil:

Notice the heads of Thor and Captain Britain.

I would say Shin was saying he looks african because he looks tribal not because he was poor (the man defends you and you call him racist based on assumptions? That kind of thing will guarntee you a fine position working with others, btw).

Gonna say hobbit/dog mixes are not the best story idea.

Here you go:

Swarm
Foreigner
Puma
Chance

 

[shinlyle]

First off, that's racist. Just because he looks poor means he's from Africa?

And I never said it would be the focus of my submission. (You know, a lot of these walls of text can be avoided if you guys actually read previous posts.)

The story I had for him was that during the War of the Ring, a time rift opened up and Pippin got sucked into our time, but arrived in the same space that was being occupied by a dog. The two beings merged, creating a hobbit/dog mix. Having lost his memory and most of his intelligence, his canine instincts drove him to collect various things across the city of New York. Thus, he eventually evolved into the Terrible Tinkerer!

This is him after he turns evil:

Notice the heads of Thor and Captain Britain.

Well, it's good to know you are open to criticism. Apparently, as others have noted, you really have your mind set on something, and you're bound to do it regardless of what anyone says. I defended you because I've been the guy to post up artwork or ask a question, only to be attacked by a horde of angry internet-peeps.

I see that you're really just here to have people blow smoke up your ass and tell you how good you are. In that case, good luck with your first portfolio review. Make sure to tell the guys at Marvel that you've decided to crossover with Lord of the Rings off-panel and turn the Tinkerer into a half hobbit-dog hybrid that kills Thor and Cap Britain and runs aroung looking like a shaved Ewok in his secret identity. I'm sure they'll give you a gig on Ultimate Spidey with that one.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go iron my robe and hood. We have a meeting under the burning crucifix at the local trailer park in about an hour...

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Well, it's good to know you are open to criticism. Apparently, as others have noted, you really have your mind set on something, and you're bound to do it regardless of what anyone says. I defended you because I've been the guy to post up artwork or ask a question, only to be attacked by a horde of angry internet-peeps.

I see that you're really just here to have people blow smoke up your ass and tell you how good you are. In that case, good luck with your first portfolio review. Make sure to tell the guys at Marvel that you've decided to crossover with Lord of the Rings off-panel and turn the Tinkerer into a half hobbit-dog hybrid that kills Thor and Cap Britain and runs aroung looking like a shaved Ewok in his secret identity. I'm sure they'll give you a gig on Ultimate Spidey with that one.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go iron my robe and hood. We have a meeting under the burning crucifix at the local trailer park in about an hour...

That was brilliant

 

[mre]

Is his brother's name Arrest? Anyways, he looks cool. I'll have to do some more research on him to find out what he's all about.

No, I think his brothers name was Daniel or something. It was a one shot story-line but I thought it was good. At first glance it's almost cookie-cutter like, but the arc of his brother going from a dude who can't stick up for himself and always afraid to to what's right to overcoming all that was nice. That and I think Bloodshed is just bad-ass, and could be done well if Ultimized.
Same goes for Cardiac. He was a cool villain who would be amazing in the Ultimate Line.

And your are is good, but no offense, I'm not interested in a Lord of the Rings crossover, nor do I understand your new angle on the Terrible Tinkerer at all. Why is he called the Terrible Tinkerer? He looks like a Gremlin/LotR crossover.

 

[shinlyle]

You guys haven't really helped me out on what I was asking about in the first place, so I'm just yankin' you back.

You asked for suggestions about doing an Ultimate version of the "Terrible Tinkerer" for a submission you were sending to Marvel.

We told you politely, "Hey man, Marvel has closed the doors on their submissions. You now have to be found by them or hook up witht hem at a convention."

Then, some of us told you not to include a reboot of a character in a submission, which they aren't taking anymore, and to instead do a character that already exists, as it would be more easily recognizeable, and benefit you in the long run.

It's the equivalent of you asking us what kind of car to drive from Alaska to Russia. We tell you there is no bridge to Russia. You tell us you want to drive a Corvette there. There is still no bridge. You tell us you're going to drive a Hummer there. There is still no bridge. You then buy a Hummer with a Corvette engine and show it to us all and start driving, and, guess what, there is still no effing bridge.

Same thing.

Everyone here was just trying to help you, man.

Also, an Ultimate Terrible Tinkerer COULD BE COOL, but maybe if he was left at least as a tech-guy who build stuff for super-villians, as opposed to an insane hobbit-goblin....hobbit-goblin....hob-goblin....hobgoblin! I get it!

 

[Eddie Brock]

Tinkerer's been done, anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinkerer#Ultimate_Tinkerer

 

[shinlyle]

Tinkerer's been done, anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinkerer#Ultimate_Tinkerer

Hunh, I had totally forgotten about that.

 

[Mogwai]

goblinette and doppleganger

 

[Mogwai]

lol. she's real. i remember seeing her on a marvel trading card in the mid-90s.

 

[Toxin]

Oh...um...robixx-whatever, your art rocks, but there already is a Gray Goblin. Sins Past.

 

[spidey-dude]

just advice on who to ultimatise....hmmmmn....

ultimate swarm could be cool. I dont think ultimate hydroman has been done either or ultimate tombstone. Tombstone would be a good one to do since ultimate spiderman has a huge gang/mob vibe

also your work is pretty good you have a devart account?

 

[Mogwai]

isn't there already an ultimate swarm?

 

[spidey-dude]

really? well my other ideas are still awesome

 

[Mogwai]

yeah, hydroman needs ultimized.

 

[jeffjhicks]

I wish I could color my stuff digitally, I draw that well