Wrestling

[Sabretooth]

Randy vs Punk from Japan,it's as if Orton is crying out for Sabre to become an RKO mark

That sure cheered me up. :heart:

 

[The FallenAngel]

I'd love to see the Punk/Orton match,they got 16 minutes which is enough to see how they work together and i wonder if Orton won clean

Also Balls vs Umaga should be tons of funt:

Do these shows ever leak out onto the net, or will we never get to see them?

 

[Assassin]

Not watching a show simply because it isn't live is one of the most shallow reasons not to watch a show, ever. Good job.

it doesnt have that anything can happen feel to it. i hated editing

 

[The Sage]

Joe/Kenta is awesome.

Why can't the crowds be that rowdy in WWE?

Oh, that's right. They don't have a reason to be.

 

[Assassin]

so cm punk isnt undefeated any more or it doesnt count because it wasnt on tv?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Joe/Kenta is awesome.

Why can't the crowds be that rowdy in WWE?

Oh, that's right. They don't have a reason to be.

They are rowdy when they're in Philadelphia, Chicago, New York(sometimes), Canada, Germany, and Japan. t:

I just think that the WWE hasn't done anything really exciting or unpredictable as of late, which obviously as you put it means the crowds don't have a reason to be rowdy.

 

[Assassin]

you forgot Detroit

 

[Hunter Rider]

As reported earlier, Marty "The Boogeyman" Wright was rehired after previously being fired a few weeks ago. Booker T was the individual who pushed for his re-hiring. The Boogeyman is supposed to be a "Booker project" as he will be training mid-week, every week at Booker's wrestling school in Houston. Also, one company source is saying that there was an implied race card used in Wright's rehiring, and the company felt vulnerable to it right now due to the Cryme Tyme act getting negative publicity.

Apparently, there were some websites reporting that Harry Smith had failed a drug test. Those reports have been confirmed to be false. However, Smith has been off the road since early September as it is believed that the WWE creative team has nothing for him.

Thus far, The Marine has pulled in $8,063,887 (through Tuesday). The movie pulled in $464,314 on Monday and $460,799 on Tuesday. The Marine cost $23 million to make and it needs to generate approximately double that amount to simply break even.

 

[Hunter Rider]

After several months, Joey Mercury is finally out of rehab and is currently training for a WWE return down in Ohio Valley Wrestling. Although, without Melina and Johnny Nitro by his side, things will more than likely be difficult for him upon his return.



Vince McMahon is expected to be backing Lilian Garcia's music album that will be released in 2007. That's not a done deal yet but it is something she's been lead to believe will happen.

 

[Hunter Rider]

OVW wrestlers Jon Bolen and "Silverback" Ryan Reeves have been put together as a tag team called "High Dosage." Several years ago, there was a similar tag team in WCW called High Voltage (Kenny Kaos and Robbie Rage) and their inside joke nickname was High Dosage. Reeves in particular looks the part as he is one of the most muscular guys - if not the most muscular guy - under WWE contract. Also, back in July, Reeves was suspended for 30 days due to failing a drugs test.

Both Moolah and Mae Young were originally intended to have much larger roles on the 10/9 RAW. In fact, Moolah was supposed to wrestle Melina on the show in the women's tournament (Torrie ended up wrestling Melina instead). The scripted idea was for Moolah to wrestle (and lose), have a woman interfere, and Mae would give that woman a bronco buster. The match would have been short, but Moolah still has an old-school mentality where she wouldn't be happy losing a short TV match. Anyways, both women had recent falls and the match was nixed. Mae recently fell on her hip while in the bathroom when she went to weigh herself on a scale. Her hip wasn't broken, but she was very sore. Mae used a walker backstage but is expected to get rid of it soon. As for Moolah, she fell two weeks ago when she was in New Jersey for an autograph signing. She was hurt, but did not break her hip either.

 

[Hunter Rider]

WWE.com have added profiles on Cryme Tyme's JTG and Shad. It looks like they've dropped Shad's last name (Gaspard) from his official WWE name as he'll simply be known as Shad.

When Too Cold Scorpio makes his return to WWE (probably next month), it will be under the dancing Flash Funk persona - which is quite similar to The Godfather's gimmick. No word yet if he will have some "Funkettes" in tow. Also, this pretty much confirms that he won't be a part of ECW.

Umaga has issued an open challenge for any ECW or Smackdown star to face him at the Cyber Sunday PPV.

John Cena recently filmed a commercial for Subway sandwiches

 

[Mister J]

When Too Cold Scorpio makes his return to WWE (probably next month), it will be under the dancing Flash Funk persona - which is quite similar to The Godfather's gimmick. No word yet if he will have some "Funkettes" in tow.

Also, this pretty much confirms that he won't be a part of ECW.

...and so it begins. I haven't seen (or really heard anything about) Scorpio in some time, but I remeber him being a hell of a lot better in (the real) ECW than his WWF run.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

WWE.com have added profiles on Cryme Tyme's JTG and Shad. It looks like they've dropped Shad's last name (Gaspard) from his official WWE name as he'll simply be known as Shad.

When Too Cold Scorpio makes his return to WWE (probably next month), it will be under the dancing Flash Funk persona - which is quite similar to The Godfather's gimmick. No word yet if he will have some "Funkettes" in tow. Also, this pretty much confirms that he won't be a part of ECW.

Umaga has issued an open challenge for any ECW or Smackdown star to face him at the Cyber Sunday PPV.

John Cena recently filmed a commercial for Subway sandwiches

Flash Funk?

I'm actually intruiged to see who Umaga's opponent will be.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Flash Funk?

I'm actually intruiged to see who Umaga's opponent will be.

With that gimmick i guess he is going to RAW

I hope it's Balls,he can take a good beating,just as long as they don't use Punk.........ugh wait Kane is on SD now,win back i smelleth

 

[SLYspyder]

Not watching a show simply because it isn't live is one of the most shallow reasons not to watch a show, ever. Good job.

it is. it's a dumbass reason.

 

[TheVileOne]

I wonder why Booker T would want a guy that nearly ruined him brought back.

 

[NDX]

Flash Funk is depressing. I had high hopes in WWE taking Scorpio seriously. Doesn't look like that will happen now.

And it's a shame that Japan CM Punk vs Randy Orton most likely won't ever been seen outside of that live audience. Lets hope WWE taped that even and the match is leaked or released.

 

[NDX]

Kirchner passes
By Craig Tello
October 19, 2006

Former WWE Superstar Thomas Spear, professionally known as Corporal Kirchner, passed away of natural causes Sunday in his home in White Marsh, Md. He is survived by his two sons, daughter and step-daughter, as well as two grandchildren.

A Vietnam veteran, Kirchner is known for defending his country in the ring as well as out. He is not only revered as one of sports-entertainment’s toughest competitors, but also one of its greatest patriots.

In the early 1980s, Kirchner was a close protégé of another patriot, former WWE Champion and Hall of Famer Sgt. Slaughter. Perhaps one of Kirchner’s most celebrated victories took place at WrestleMania 2 where he defeated WWE Hall of Famer Nikolai Volkoff in a Flag Match.

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Thomas Spear, was a professional wrestler. Early in his career he was known as Corporal Kirchner and is known in North America for his brief feud with Nikolai Volkoff in the WWF in 1986. He was considered one of the toughest men in the WWF at the time and his career suffered because many wrestlers were afraid to to work with him. He was terminated by the WWF and allegedly assaulted Vince McMahon in the process. He then made a successful wrestling career for himself in Japan.

He sought out a wrestling career in Japan, using the Super Leather and Leatherface gimmicks.

His career in Japan was as the masked Leatherface, utilising the mask and character of the villain of the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He originally wrestled for Atsushi Onita's FMW promotion and was considered by many to be the toughest hardcore wrestler in FMW. He was put into jail for six months following an attempted assault by a fan, which left the fan with severe facial injuries. During his brief time in jail, the Leatherface character which Kirschner created was given to another wrestler, Rick Patterson, who eventually left FMW and went to IWA. During his stint in IWA, Kirschner was released from prison, and during a subsequent Leatherface (Patterson) match in IWA, the original Leatherface (Kirschner) appeared in the crowd. This set up the team of the Leatherfaces, which lasted only one match and was intended as a transition of the character away from Patterson. The match was a Bed of Nails match (and was part of the 1995 King of the Deathmatch tournament in Japan) against two popular wrestlers, Shoji Nakamaki and Hiroshi Ono. In a match that would become legendary among hardcore wrestling fans, Kirschner ripped off a piece of the bed of nails and placed it on Ono's throat, before performing a leg-drop. He then powerbombed Ono onto the bed of nails. Kirschner afterward left the promotion. After his departure, the promotion claimed that he was fired in an attempt to salvage Ono's destroyed reputation.

In 2005, ECWA Super 8 Tournament Finalist Andrew Ryker said Kirschner was his inspiration for getting into the wrestling business.

Kirschner died on Sunday, October 15 2006 of natural causes at his home in White Marsh, Maryland. He is survived by his two sons, daughter and step-daughter, as well as two grandchildren.


source: Wikipedia

 

[Mister J]

I knew Kirschner worked in Japan, but I didn't know that he was that intense. Sorry to hear of his passing, although there is a morbid happiness that it was due to natural causes (if there can be such a thing as death by natural causes when you're a long-time wrestler).

 

[3dman27]

my condolenses to the kirchiner family

 

[NDX]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/commentary/styles/101906mep

Most Extreme Player for 10/19/06
By Joey Styles
October 19, 2006

This week's MEP is the man who ended Big Show's ECW undefeated streak (for all of you internet fact finders, I am referring to losses by pinfall or submission, not countouts or disqualifications), the former and rightful ECW World Champion, Rob Van Dam.

RVD, the most popular athlete in the new ECW and arguably the most popular in the original ECW, proved that Big Show, while monstrous, gargantuan and enormous, is not unbeatable. In fact, back on July 4, the night of the infamous South Philly Screwjob, then reigning ECW World Champion, Rob Van Dam, had Big Show beat with the Five Star Frog Splash. Paul Heyman then betrayed RVD and annointed Big Show his new ECW World Champion and "long term investment". However, if you go back and watch the footage, you will see that RVD had Big Show beat. Unfortunately, you cannot watch the footage here on ECW.com because the archives start the week after the South Philly Screwjob, thanks to the self-proclaimed "Father of ECW" Paul "Judas" Heyman.

The fact is, by virtue of his victory, Rob Van Dam will now get a title match against the ECW World Champion Big Show. I, along with millions of original and new ECW fans around the world will be rooting for RVD to once again win the title which is rightfully his, the title that he says means more to RVD than any other. After all, is there anyone in all of wrestling who represents the new ECW any better than R-V-D?

Speaking of which, Rob Van Dam may be the most decorated champion in wrestling history in terms of the number of championships he has won. Take a look at this list:

- ECW World Champion
- ECW Television Champion
- 2-time ECW Tag Team Champion
- WWE Champion
- 6-time WWE Intercontinental Champion
- 2-time WWE World Tag Team Champion
- WWE Tag Team Champion
- WWE European Champion
- 4-time WWE Hardcore Champion

*Unified the Intercontinental Championship with the Hardcore and European Championships.

*Held the WWE and ECW World Championships simultaneously.

After Rob wins back his ECW World Title, maybe he can invite Chris Benoit back home to ECW and win the United States Championship, just to make it a clean sweep.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Weeeeellllll, it's the Fat Shoooowwww.


He should have mentioned his other movie he was in when they had that "movie off". I forgot all about him being the giant Santa in Jingle All The Way. t:

 

[SoulManX]

USA Network Pins Rivals to the Mat

Wrestling continues to give the cable channels that carry it a stranglehold on the ratings. Fueled by WWE: Raw Family Reunion, the USA cable network claimed the top spot among cable channels for last week. The wrestling special drew 2.6 million viewers in the 18-49-year-old demographic and beat its nearest competing channel by 146 percent in that demo.

 

[Prognosticator]

So I actually remembered that TNA comes on Thursdays last night, and I watched it...and although I couldn't stay into it the entire time, I was thoroughly surprised and interested in what I saw...except for the beginnings of what I hear will be Jerritt going baby-face :

 

[The Sage]

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/62079/2006/10/20/the-botterm-dollar-in-news-18.html

>> WWE NOTEBOOK <<

-- Nobody should be surprised that The Marine failed to live up to internal WWE expectations. WWE Films is generally considered to be a laughingstock in the film industry, and nothing they release is going to gain any kind of traction. See No Evil performed above expectations because horror fans will generally see a bad horror flick before action fans will go see a bad action movie, which is what The Marine ended up being. I saw the flick on Tuesday, and was truly amazed at how truly bad it was. Vince McMahon feels that the Steve Austin movie has the potential to do monster numbers, but everyone else in the company understands at this point that Austin's name doesn't mean much outside of the wrestling community anymore. If they'd released the Austin film in 1999, there's a very good chance that it would have done blockbuster numbers, because wrestling was as hot as it's ever been and Austin was a well-known name in pop culture. The funny thing is that it won't matter if the films continue to bomb, because Vince now has a home distribution deal with the Weinstein brothers and he'll just release the movies straight to DVD if he can't get them into theaters. Going that route will allow them to use much smaller production budgets and give them a much better chance to actually make a profit instead of losing big money like they will with the Cena flick.

-- The first two releases under the deal with the Weinstein brothers will be the Piper and AWA DVD's, which are both due out next month. They're putting together DVD's for ladder matches and Hell In A Cell matches, which Jim Ross has alluded to on his blog.

-- WWE Corporate pegs the Unforgiven buyrate at somewhere in the vicinity of 285,000 buys, which is more than Unforgiven 2005 did at 225,000 buys. That number doesn't count late cable returns, which will most likely push the final number up to somewhere around 315,000 buys. Unforgiven is currently the second highest single-brand PPV of the year in terms of buyrate, with Great American Bash coming in at 330,000 buys; it's followed closely by ECW One Night Stand 2006, which far exceeded the internal expectations for that show.

-- Randy Orton was injured during his match with Triple H this past Monday night on Raw, so they had to cut out a bunch of spots and do an abbreviated version of the match. Orton is fine now and won't miss any time.

-- Brent Alright and Francine were released from the company. Francine is an interesting case because nobody expected her to be kept around in the first place, and when she did, she amazingly had a diva attitude and was pretty much rude to everybody in the company. They wanted her to do some pro wrestling training with Fit Finlay and Steve Keirn before shows on the road, and she flat-out refused to participate.She's 38 years old and not at all attractive, so when you combine that with the attitude it becomes amazing that they kept her around this long at all.

-- Albright was a different story; he's a great worker, but Stephanie McMahon was dismayed that he didn't catch on with the fans when he was paired with Chris Benoit, and once Stephanie doesn't like you it's pretty tough to hold on to your job. He's also a victim of the Chris Masters Wellness Policy in that his once amazing physique has drastically changed from what it was when they originally signed him to a developmental deal. He's a good enough worker that he'll be able to take bookings immediately and has actually done so with Ring of Honor. There's a feeling amongst some of the WWE agents that he'll be brought back whenever he develops some semblance of a character to supplement his in-ring work.

-- Pat Patterson is back with the company as an agent, but won't be traveling to house shows. He'll be at most of the television tapings to help with finishes, as he's generally regarded as being the best idea man for finishes in the history of the business. Patterson had been out for two months with an abdominal aneurism; I did not even know that there was such a thing as an abdominal anuerism. I'd make a joke about how he got an abdominal aneurism in the first place, but I'd rather not, so you can fill in the blanks.

>> TNA NOTEBOOK <<

-- Kurt Angle didn't come up hot on his urinalysis for any kind of pain medication or narcotic. It's been speculated that Angle failed the test for pain killers, but the truth is that it wasn't anything in that vein. He failed the test for Soma, which is a prescription-only sleep medication that a lot of wrestlers have trouble with. A Soma overdose is what killed Louie Spiccoli, and there's been numerous incidents of wrestlers taking too much of the stuff in order to help them overcome insomnia due to the erratic schedules they keep. Angle failed the test twice for Somas; the first time he was able to produce a prescription for it but had a huge quantity in his system and got nailed for it. Angle has claimed that he was taking 60 Percocets a day; as an Army medic, I can tell you that this is not only extremely strange but also extremely likely to lead to your death. I've got a pretty severe back injury and have been prescribed Percocet for the pain, and I can't imagine taking more than 10 a day. When I first injured my back, I was taking three of them every four hours, and when I quit cold turkey-style, I became as sick as I can ever really remember. I'm not sure I believe Kurt when he says he quit them cold turkey, although if he did want time off from the road in order to quit the drug and Vince McMahon wouldn't let him, then I totally understand where Angle's anger towards WWE and Vince McMahon is coming from. I'll have more on this story next week.

-- Dixie Carter is pushing extremely hard to bring Chris Jericho into the company. David Sahadi is the one who approached Jericho about putting the Fozzy music video on Impact, but he was instructed to do so by Carter as a means of buttering Jericho up for contract talks. Jericho and Carter have spoken several times about a potential deal, but he hasn't shown any kind of interest in returning to wrestling in the near future. He's telling friends that he is going to return to the ring at some point, which is a different story than the one he's been telling everyone since he left World Wrestling Entertainment. Carter will have to push extremely hard in order to bring him in and will have to pay him the same kind of money or even more than Kurt Angle is getting. Carter has a short list of about three or four people that she wants to sign in the next six months, and Jericho and Bill Goldberg are on top of that list.

-- In all likelihood, Monty Brown will not be returning to the company. His contract has expired and he has told numerous people internally that he'll either go to WWE or stop wrestling altogether to work on his personal training business, which makes far more money than TNA has ever paid him. Brown hasn't entirely decided if he wants to go to WWE at all, but if they offer him enough money and don't force him to go to developmental he'll probably sign. Brown is one of those guys where he literally does not care if he never wrestles again; he's got not passion for the business, which is one of the reasons he refused to try and get any better on his promos and in-ring work by doing indie dates around the country. Brown makes six figures as a personal trainer, which is amazing because that's the kind of job everyone dreams about, and he's making great money doing it. He doesn't get clientele because of his TNA reputation and in fact doesn't even tell his trainees about his wrestling career. Of course, now that I've reported this, look for Brown to show up at Bound For Glory.

-- Bobby Roode is expected to announce Tracy Brooks as his manager at Bound For Glory, which would be a huge disappointment if anyone actually cared about the angle in the first place. The original idea was to get Jake Roberts on board as his manager and completely change Roode's gimmick, but they decided to nix that idea and instead play up the Rick Rude aspects of his character.

-- Jake Roberts is said to be clean and sober backstage at TNA shows, but nobody believes it'll last very long. Roberts is also extremely out of shape and was gassed just from carrying the snake to the ring on Impact, which made his interview come off extremely poor live. Thanks to the wonders of editing, they were able to mostly salvage the interview, but it still came off like Jake had lung cancer and was just trying to catch a breath so he can talk. Jake is still highly respected for his wrestling mind and if he's able to stay clean, there's a pretty good chance that he'll get a shot at a better contract and a place with the writing team that's currently headed by Vince Russo.

-- Kurt Angle will be working the TNA house show in Lisbon, Portugal on October 31. It'll be his second TNA match with the first one being next Wednesday in Monterrey against Christian Cage.

-- Simon Diamond got married last weekend.

-- Scott D'Amore is working with Hermie Sadler's UWF promotion on doing a ton of TNA house shows in that area in 2007. The TNA/UWF show that was scheduled for Friday in Toledo has been cancelled because the company wanted the roster well rested for the PPV on Sunday. They're still doing the shows in Philadelphia and Hartford on November 10 and 11 as of press time.

-- The seeds are being planted for a Jeff Jarrett face turn. The last person I spoke with told me that the tentative idea is for Jarrett to retain the belt against Sting in some sort of screwy fashion so that Sting doesn't have to retire and turn into a sympathetic babyface, which is why they had B.G. James talking about what a great man he is. Kurt Angle will likely win the belt from Jarrett and then they'll do a slow build to Samoa Joe finally winning the belt from Angle. Ideally, they'd put that match off until Bound For Glory 2007, but I'm not sure they can actually hold off that long. For his part, Angle prefers to work as a heel, but they don't want to turn him too quickly and cause a fan backlash; the working plan right now is for him to keep doing the shooter gimmick in a tweener role while working with the babyface Samoa Joe. My concern is that they'll waste all kinds of marquee matchups with Angle by putting him out there with Styles, Joe, Daniels and other TNA guys like they did with Christian instead of stretching his usefulness out as long as they possibly can.

-- Final Resolution 2007 is on January 14.

-- Kevin Nash was brought back to the company after his overtures to Vince McMahon for a proposed nWo vs. DX angle fell on deaf ears. The story going around backstage is that Nash wanted to get into WWE for one last run, but WWE never seriously considered it. Nash knew that WWE wouldn't consider bringing in Scott Hall in his current condition, and he proposed bringing in Sean Waltman to team with him as the nWo against Shawn Michaels and Triple H. McMahon never even remotely considered doing the angle, and Nash is said to have quickly realized that his efforts to sign with his former company would be futile.

THE END