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Sarge 2.0 said:
He'd better...even though he needs to move beyond it. Slapping the IC title on Flair (whom they never even have defend it or job to) is just a sign of how lackluster Raw's booking has been as of late.

I agree with you on Flair, the last time I think I remember him defending it was against Trevor Murdock. :rolleyes: And then after that Murdock was telling the fans how he was going after the title, like that happend...I'm hoping Benjamin nabs the title for sure, maybe after he retains it for the next couple weeks(if he wins tonight), Haas will make his return to WWE and fued with him. Or they may become the great tage team they once were again.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Almost every wrestler in the history of the business goes through their moveset that way. Too bad you left out at least 75% of Takers. Even if you did get his moveset correct (which you didn't...it's way off), would you blame guys like RVD, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, SCSA, Ric Flair, Triple H etc. for going through theirs? It's funny, you criticise Taker for his moveset...when your lover Monty Brown has one that's one million times more pathetic.

How many Undertaker matches have you actually watched? Hell in A Cell was hardly his standout moment...he's had way too many in his career for me to count. Also, he's held the title because he deserved all of his reigns. He's done more for the business than most (certainly more than your boy Vampiro :rolleyes:), and has proved himself in the ring. Also, four months is a pretty decent title reign, as most wrestlers have it for that period. Also, the whole "entrances longer than his matches" bit is just stupid hyperbole on your part.

Sure. I bet if Vampiro or Monty slapped it on half as good as Taker you'd cream yourself.
Damn...it got hot in here. :o
 
Colossal Spoons said:
That would be fabulous. I'd still love a Team Angle reunion if possible.
I'm still deciding whether or not Mama Benjamin should stay if that happens. On one hand, she could help Haas with his charisma...on the other she could ruin their credibility as an awesome tag team.
 
Colossal Spoons said:
That would be fabulous. I'd still love a Team Angle reunion if possible.

With you on that friend. :up:

Sarge 2.0 said:
I'm still deciding whether or not Mama Benjamin should stay if that happens. On one hand, she could help Haas with his charisma...on the other she could ruin their credibility as an awesome tag team.

How long is Mama supposed to be there for anyway?
 
The Flash! said:
With you on that friend. :up:



How long is Mama supposed to be there for anyway?
Probably until Shelton comes out of his shell and gets a little more personality on his own.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
I'm still deciding whether or not Mama Benjamin should stay if that happens. On one hand, she could help Haas with his charisma...on the other she could ruin their credibility as an awesome tag team.

Trio.

World's Greatest Tag Team was awesome; but I want the whole Team Angle back, Kurt included. Mama Jamin' would def have to hit the road.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Probably until Shelton comes out of his shell and gets a little more personality on his own.

Yeah, and quit getting called a mama's boy. :rolleyes:
 
The Techno Bat said:
It's true, The Undertaker does not know how to apply a Trianlge Choke Hold and he looks silly (SILLY I Tell Ya) when he attempts it. The same with his arm bars.
That's funny coming from you,because you praise Ric Flair and yet he locks in the Figure 4 Leg Lock wrong.:o
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Almost every wrestler in the history of the business goes through their moveset that way. Too bad you left out at least 75% of Takers. Even if you did get his moveset correct (which you didn't...it's way off), would you blame guys like RVD, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, SCSA, Ric Flair, Triple H etc. for going through theirs? It's funny, you criticise Taker for his moveset...when your lover Monty Brown has one that's one million times more pathetic.

How many Undertaker matches have you actually watched? Hell in A Cell was hardly his standout moment...he's had way too many in his career for me to count. Also, he's held the title because he deserved all of his reigns. He's done more for the business than most (certainly more than your boy Vampiro :rolleyes:), and has proved himself in the ring. Also, four months is a pretty decent title reign, as most wrestlers have it for that period. Also, the whole "entrances longer than his matches" bit is just stupid hyperbole on your part.

Sure. I bet if Vampiro or Monty slapped it on half as good as Taker you'd cream yourself.

I guess I really touched a nerve with you and The Undertaker huh? Sorry if I left out a few of his moves like The Snake Eyes, and The Big Boot.

Now I will admit I did speak off on this set move list because you are correct all wrestlers have there set moves they go through, so it is wrong of me to just attack the Undertaker for his set of moves.

And I did leave out a couple of his crowning moments, like the time he threw Rikishi off the cage into the truck full of shavings or was it popcorn, I can't remember, and when he beat up David Flair, those were great moments, and ones that stick out in my mind.

I have watched a ton of Undertaker matches over the years, and non of them are very entertaining, and stand out, sure when he wrestles guys like Kurt Angle, Shawn Micheals, Mark Henry, etc he is going to look good because look at who Takers is wrestling? Guys that make him look better.

Sure Taker has endured alot through the years and changes with the times, and I respect that he has been in this business a long time and done his part, but again he is more hype than anything.

And your right I do like guys like Vampiro, and Monty Brown and the reason I think it would be great for Monty Brown to win the world title is because he would be the first TNA-bred guy to wear the world title, because everybody else has been part of the big "3" in some shape or form that has held the NWA-TNA title, and since they are pushing Monty Brown towards the title it would be great to see him win it. Now no way in hell do I think Monty Brown is a great technical machine, but he has gotten better and better over the years and I admire that about him.

And maybe my resentment towards Taker has alot to do with the fact that Vampiro is a favorite wrestler of mine, and when he was being baited to go to the WWE years ago, and had a meeting with the suits, and they finally turned him down saying a dark character like his is silly and wouldn't work, (and you basically have to sell out) and then the next week on WWE television The Undertaker debuts, totally ripping what Vampiro had been doing for years in Mexico and Canada.

But for you to say I would cream myself if Monty or Vampiro slapped (triangle choke) it on half as good as Taker is just a ridiculous statement to make, because I bet Monty or Vampiro would make sure they understand the move and how to apply it before attempting the move.

And you calling me stupid, whatever dude, if you want to sink that low and say that fine, but I wouldn't say or do that because it's just plain childish

And just so you don't think I only like Vampiro, Monty, & Ric Flair here is a list of others that I like watching:

1. The Big Show
2. Christopher Daniels
3. Samoa Joe
4. The Naturals & AMW
5. Matt Hardy
6. Gregory Helms
7. HHH


I guess all it comes down to is a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that I never have, and never will like The Undertaker, which is not to say I don't respect what he has done in the ring and for the WWE.
 
Sabretooth said:
That's funny coming from you,because you praise Ric Flair and yet he locks in the Figure 4 Leg Lock wrong.:o

There's a difference between applying the Figure Four, and The Triangle Choke, you can slap on the Trianlge Choke and act like it is really on, and totally protect your opponent from any danger, but to throw on the Figure Four for real and if you slip up, you could totally wreck somebodies knee for life
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
He'd better...even though he needs to move beyond it. Slapping the IC title on Flair (whom they never even have defend it or job to) is just a sign of how lackluster Raw's booking has been as of late.

I agree with you that they need to slap the IC title on Shelton, but does it really matter who has the IC strap if they are not going to give it the proper respect it deserves? The same can be said about the Tag Team Titles, when was the last time Big Show and Kane defended those tag team titles on a regular basis? I think that the WWE needs to smarten up and allow there champions to defend there belts, if not get rid of them!
 
The Techno Bat said:
I guess I really touched a nerve with you and The Undertaker huh? Sorry if I left out a few of his moves like The Snake Eyes, and The Big Boot.

Now I will admit I did speak off on this set move list because you are correct all wrestlers have there set moves they go through, so it is wrong of me to just attack the Undertaker for his set of moves.

And I did leave out a couple of his crowning moments, like the time he threw Rikishi off the cage into the truck full of shavings or was it popcorn, I can't remember, and when he beat up David Flair, those were great moments, and ones that stick out in my mind.

I have watched a ton of Undertaker matches over the years, and non of them are very entertaining, and stand out, sure when he wrestles guys like Kurt Angle, Shawn Micheals, Mark Henry, etc he is going to look good because look at who Takers is wrestling? Guys that make him look better.

Sure Taker has endured alot through the years and changes with the times, and I respect that he has been in this business a long time and done his part, but again he is more hype than anything.

And your right I do like guys like Vampiro, and Monty Brown and the reason I think it would be great for Monty Brown to win the world title is because he would be the first TNA-bred guy to wear the world title, because everybody else has been part of the big "3" in some shape or form that has held the NWA-TNA title, and since they are pushing Monty Brown towards the title it would be great to see him win it. Now no way in hell do I think Monty Brown is a great technical machine, but he has gotten better and better over the years and I admire that about him.

And maybe my resentment towards Taker has alot to do with the fact that Vampiro is a favorite wrestler of mine, and when he was being baited to go to the WWE years ago, and had a meeting with the suits, and they finally turned him down saying a dark character like his is silly and wouldn't work, (and you basically have to sell out) and then the next week on WWE television The Undertaker debuts, totally ripping what Vampiro had been doing for years in Mexico and Canada.

But for you to say I would cream myself if Monty or Vampiro slapped (triangle choke) it on half as good as Taker is just a ridiculous statement to make, because I bet Monty or Vampiro would make sure they understand the move and how to apply it before attempting the move.

And you calling me stupid, whatever dude, if you want to sink that low and say that fine, but I wouldn't say or do that because it's just plain childish

And just so you don't think I only like Vampiro, Monty, & Ric Flair here is a list of others that I like watching:

1. The Big Show
2. Christopher Daniels
3. Samoa Joe
4. The Naturals & AMW
5. Matt Hardy
6. Gregory Helms
7. HHH


I guess all it comes down to is a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that I never have, and never will like The Undertaker, which is not to say I don't respect what he has done in the ring and for the WWE.
Edit: Meh, I'm just going to be beating a dead horse here...it would be like the irresistable force and the immovable object. Nothing would really come of it.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
So can anyone tell me what the point of Rey winning the Rumble was? If they wanted to do this, all they had to do was have Randy win the Rumble.

That's why I'm tired of this Eddie Guerrero sympathy angle. Let the man rest in peace and stop pushing wrestlers because of it, sincerely I highly doubt Eddie would want anyone pushed because of his unfortunate passing.

Personally I think the WWE dropped the ball on this though, big surprise. :o

If Orton pins Angle I'll throw my remote at the tv.

I guess they wanted Rey to win the Rumble to have the whole overcoming-the-odds thing.....:confused:


But yeah, I'm personally disappointed that now Orton is going to be fighting for the title at WM now instead of Rey. Particularly since it would be much better to see Rey win the title at WM instead of Orton.....
 
Eric Draven said:
I guess they wanted Rey to win the Rumble to have the whole overcoming-the-odds thing.....:confused:


But yeah, I'm personally disappointed that now Orton is going to be fighting for the title at WM now instead of Rey. Particularly since it would be much better to see Rey win the title at WM instead of Orton.....
Christ...the one time WWE does something right, they **** it up. Why? Rey is too small...Rey isn't capable of main eventing mania...blah blah blah. :(
 
Actually, I think the WWE wants to put the title on Rey. I heard at one point, they wanted to put it on Rey when Lesner got injured, but they decided to give it to Big Show instead.

Supposedly, they want to put it on Rey after WM, with yet another feud with Orton. But wouldn't it be better to have Rey win at WM, then have Orton chase after the title? Orton could win it in a couple of months, and that can all lead into a feud with Batista....:confused:
 
Eric Draven said:
Actually, I think the WWE wants to put the title on Rey. I heard at one point, they wanted to put it on Rey when Lesner got injured, but they decided to give it to Big Show instead.

Supposedly, they want to put it on Rey after WM, with yet another feud with Orton. But wouldn't it be better to have Rey win at WM, then have Orton chase after the title? Orton could win it in a couple of months, and that can all lead into a feud with Batista....:confused:
And Rey could still keep his spot at Mania, and salvage part of the PPV...I guess they weren't really thinking, and decided to treat Mania like all of their other monthlys.
 
Yep. So now we're left with Orton-Angle and Trips-Cena as the main-event for Wrestlemania. And with all probability, this means that both heels will win the title. Kind of a downer for WWE's biggest PPV of the year isn't it?
 
Well, for the people tired of Cena, the Raw main event will be the greatest moment in the history of pro wrestling. However, I don't think Angle will lose it to Orton so quickly. I don't think WWE is that stupid to take the title off one of the most over dudes on SD.
 
Unless they've been planning on putting the title on Orton since last year.....:o
 
I think if Angle loses I'm going to fly my way to Hartford so I can kick every single member of the McMahon family (minus Trips...'cause he's Trips) in the nuts. Yes, Steph and Linda have manberries.
 
I think Angle is going to lose the title no matter what, it was just the matter of whether it was going to be Rey or Orton. He was basically just holding the title in the place of Batista...
 
Angle is the best thing on Smackdown right now, and perhaps in all of wrestling. Now if they are going to have Angle drop the strap because of injuries or whatever I want to see the belt around the waist of Rey Mysterio not Randy Orton, who has many, many years ahead of him.
 
Ick. That sounds exactly like something a WWE booker would do. :(
 
hey why did wwe release nathan jones.. i just saw him in another movie..

two movies for him so far..
 
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