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Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:
 
Sabretooth said:
Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:

I think its those blond hair guys a couple pages back the girl's entrance was hot.
 
havent seen SD yet but the 2 guys are johnny nitro and joey mathews
 
Sabretooth said:
Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:

That Johnny Nitro guy used to run around as Eric Bischoff's ***** boy awhile back on RAW... remember he kept changing his name from Johnny Lightning to Johnny this to Johnny that until he finally settled on Johnny Nitro, I am not sure who the other two are though.
 
I am getting so sick and tired of Torrie Wilson. Has she ever lost a match on Smackdown? Why does she have to win everything from Bikini contest's to pillow fights to straight up wrestling matches. Tonight on Smackdown I think Dawn Marie should have been allowed to win, she totally outwrestled and beat Torrie up pretty good tonight, but NO here comes Torrie with a swing neck breaker for the win. I think that is probably why there is such a lack of interest with the SD diva's because all they do is stuff Torrie down our throats, and when they introduce new diva's they wonder why nobody gets excited, it's because we all know in the end Torrie Wilson will always come out the winner!
 
Sabretooth said:
Yeah.Like a year ago,he was making kick ass raps,but then he turned to ***** **** for some reason and just stopped.If he isn't going to rap,they might as well have him say proper english.Because you can't have real Cena without his raps.

They're catering too much to the fans with him. Changing too much of what made him popular in the first place.

Look at Steve Austin. When he turned, he didn't outright turn into a full-fledged face like Cena did. He still did some of the things that he did when he was a heel. And you know what? The fans still loved him for that. Same with Eddie Guerrero. He still kept the "Lying and Cheating and Stealing" gimmick he had as a heel and the fans still pop for him.
 
John Constantine said:
They're catering too much to the fans with him. Changing too much of what made him popular in the first place.

Look at Steve Austin. When he turned, he didn't outright turn into a full-fledged face like Cena did. He still did some of the things that he did when he was a heel. And you know what? The fans still loved him for that. Same with Eddie Guerrero. He still kept the "Lying and Cheating and Stealing" gimmick he had as a heel and the fans still pop for him.
Yeah.His little ''Chain Gang'' **** ain't helping out either.I think it's just a way to kiss up to the fans so that they don't totally hate him with that bastardization of a title he made.:mad:
 
The Chain Gang is just another thing the WWE made up to try and emulate the success of the Rock and his People. But the thing is, The Rock had that schtick when he was a heel as well, so it's not like they added it for him to suck up to the fans.

It's totally useless IMO. I see the whole Chain Gang thing being similar to Adam Bomb's ****ing Bomb Squad...
 
John Constantine said:
The Chain Gang is just another thing the WWE made up to try and emulate the success of the Rock and his People. But the thing is, The Rock had that schtick when he was a heel as well, so it's not like they added it for him to suck up to the fans.

It's totally useless IMO. I see the whole Chain Gang thing being similar to Adam Bomb's ****ing Bomb Squad...
If they want him to be really over with the fans,they need to make him rap again.Not stupid gay jokes or other crap,real raps.

Or,make him heel. At least then he won't be such a god damn kiss up.:o
 
Well he is still over with the fans at the moment. But for how long? I mean eventually they'll tire of his gimmick. Sooner rather than later if they keep this up.....I mean imagine him going up against an Eddie Guerrero or a Kurt Angle. Fans might actually cheer more for those two than him....
 
John Cena is annoying as hell and I think that spinning diamond world title belt is a disgrace! I think Cena is definately not world title material (YET), they should have kept the title around the waist of JBL
 
John Constantine said:
Well he is still over with the fans at the moment. But for how long? I mean eventually they'll tire of his gimmick. Sooner rather than later if they keep this up.....I mean imagine him going up against an Eddie Guerrero or a Kurt Angle. Fans might actually cheer more for those two than him....
Cena really shouldn't have won the title at WM 21.It wasn't his time.He only had the US title before that,just like Orton only had the IC title.And something tells me that if the fans stop cheering for him,Cena may be on the same road Orton was when he was champ.:o
 
Sabretooth said:
Cena really shouldn't have won the title at WM 21.It wasn't his time.He only had the US title before that,just like Orton only had the IC title.And something tells me that if the fans stop cheering for him,Cena may be on the same road Orton was when he was champ.:o

Actually I thought it was a perfect chance for Cena to win the title. I usually see the US/IC title as a stepping stone to the heavyweight championship. Cena accomplished everything he needed to in the US title division, it was only logical that he go up to the heavyweight championship division next. I just don't like certain changes that they made to his gimmick, changes that might end up ruining his marketability.....

And I honestly don't know why he stopped rapping. I would figure with his new rap album coming out, they would get him rapping again to promote it :confused:
 
I actually like his new entrance music. When he changed it I was like "what the hell is this?" but the more I hear it the more I like it. There's something about the "horns" in the background that give it a real 70's retro feel to it.

I enjoy his gimmick but the chaingang thing is a bit lame. I know it helps get the fans connected with him but seriously does he need a nickname for it?

Everyone since the 90's has followed the "Stone Cold" formula of being the good guy that refuses to take orders and rebels against the boss. I really wish they'd break the rule of always having the heel be some spineless coward and the face ALWAYS overcoming obstacles to be the #1 guy...it's just been done to death.
 
that's why Orton was a great heel when he was coming up. He wasn't a spineless coward, but instead the exact opposite... a Legend Killer.
 
The Techno Bat said:
I am getting so sick and tired of Torrie Wilson. Has she ever lost a match on Smackdown? Why does she have to win everything from Bikini contest's to pillow fights to straight up wrestling matches. Tonight on Smackdown I think Dawn Marie should have been allowed to win, she totally outwrestled and beat Torrie up pretty good tonight, but NO here comes Torrie with a swing neck breaker for the win. I think that is probably why there is such a lack of interest with the SD diva's because all they do is stuff Torrie down our throats, and when they introduce new diva's they wonder why nobody gets excited, it's because we all know in the end Torrie Wilson will always come out the winner!

First time that I run into someone that actually gives a damn what happens when the ladies are on tv.
 
I would have to agree that the spinning belt is a total waste and should be thrown in the trash like jbl did to the u.s title. His theme music reminds me of the rocky anthem each time balboa had to train for a fight. Personally maybe it would have been better for jbl to have kept the belt. I hate to say that but Cena has rubed some fans like myself the wrong way. I hope someone takes the belt from him soon.
 
I'll go out on a limb and say that I find the new WWE title to be "entertaining". Again, the whole customizing your championship belt started with Austin's smoking skull belt and has progressed into a spinning US/WWE title.

I honestly wish they'd dump that ugly ass WCW title and replace it with something that doesn't look like someone melted a big ass gold nugget....something that screams "WORLD TITLE". I miss the old "Eagle" championship they had (the newest incarnation)...that was a nice belt.
 
John Constantine said:
Actually I thought it was a perfect chance for Cena to win the title. I usually see the US/IC title as a stepping stone to the heavyweight championship. Cena accomplished everything he needed to in the US title division, it was only logical that he go up to the heavyweight championship division next. I just don't like certain changes that they made to his gimmick, changes that might end up ruining his marketability.....

And I honestly don't know why he stopped rapping. I would figure with his new rap album coming out, they would get him rapping again to promote it :confused:

Ive always seen the IC/US titles the same way(comes from being a long time fan when those belts had more meaning:( )Look at the likes of Savage,Hart,Michaels,Warrior and even more recent Rock and HHH,they were all IC champs of distiction before moving on to the world title.As for cena ,i dont think his build up was as strong as ortons,in Ortons build up he had feuds and wins over HBK,RVD,Foley and Shelton giving him credibility leading into his world title shot,Cena has really only had 1 big match and that was with Angle at no way out,other than that he spent last year wrestling the french guy and other no hopers.Ironically when he was heel he had big matches with Taker and Brock yet in the year they shoulda been putting him in big matches he wrestled nobody's except Big Show at WM20
 
The Techno Bat said:
That Johnny Nitro guy used to run around as Eric Bischoff's ***** boy awhile back on RAW... remember he kept changing his name from Johnny Lightning to Johnny this to Johnny that until he finally settled on Johnny Nitro, I am not sure who the other two are though.
Didn't they used to be on TNA weren't they AMW? I can't remember the name, but they stole the Tag team titles on TNA.
 
you know if the Cena's world title didn't have the spinner thing, it might look alright.
 
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