xmen animated series vs jla cartoon series

[Super_Ludacris]

JLU was always the better cartoon series primarily cause of the Dini/Timm team up

 

[Poetic Chaos]

JLU was better but X-Men TAS was/is the best as an adaptation of actual comic events.

 

[hippie_hunter]

But when they did make stories based off of actual comic stories it felt dumbed down.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I see it like this. X-Men: TAS is to comic book cartoons as Sin City is to comic book movies. It's not the best, but it's the most faithful to it's source.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I see it like this. X-Men: TAS is to comic book cartoons as Sin City is to comic book movies. It's not the best, but it's the most faithful to it's source.

Sin City was more faithful to the comics than X-Men TAS was

While Sin City's faithfulness was it's strength, X-Men TAS's "faithfulness" was its weakness.

 

[Cyclops]

silly its still on tv on disney channel at night sometimes. so saved by the bell is cancelled beavis and butthead married with children and many many others are cancelled as well just cause theres no more episodes ? dude somone here needs to take there pills.

Um.... yes... if a show is no longer producing new episodes, then it is CANCELLED.

 

[juggster-rules]

Um.... yes... if a show is no longer producing new episodes, then it is CANCELLED.

oh so you expect every TV show to go on forever ? every show has an ending dude.

 

[Cyclops]

Yes. And when it ends, it is cancelled. Doesn't stop people from playing the reruns, but that's how it's defined.

 

[juggster-rules]

yeah but when It aired on television, it never had a rating because there was no Ratings system til 1998.
And It's never been on Disney.
It is on Toon Disney.

same company

 

[juggster-rules]

Yes. And when it ends, it is cancelled. Doesn't stop people from playing the reruns, but that's how it's defined.

they cancelled inliving color years back cause kids where getting all there language and all that from the show. they almost cancelled south park as well. but xmen wasnt cancelled. they just had a final season just like every other tv show in the world. the one show that i think will go on for a verry long time is saturday night live.

 

[Sentry2005]

No X-Men was cancelled. It was just given the oppertunity and time to make a final episode like Angel, and like Farscape wasn't.

 

[Savage]

If we're talking team vs team then Martian Manhunter alone whipes the floor with them, grabs a beer from their fridge, then walks out the front door.

You start bringing Pheonix into this then Zatanna depowers her and goes on with her day.

Most people's problem with DC IS that they're overpowered afterall so in a fight there really is no question. Green Lantern can handle the X-men by himself, The Flash can handle the X-men by himself, Wonder Woman can handle the X-men by herself, and Superman...I-I really don't think there's any chance of winning here. As for Batman, the prep time thing can only take him so far. I'm sure by himself that he can take down a few X-men like Gambit, Rogue, Jubilee, Cyclops etc. Maybe even knock out Wolverine for a while with an electric charge to the back of the neck. But the psychics will become a problem unless he knew about them in advance. Still though, that is a lot of people for just one guy with no powers, far less for the entire JLU.

As for quality, JL and JLU kicks their ass there as well. Voice acting, animation, writing. The entire DCU is the greatest thing to ever happen to cartoons in general, far less for superhero cartoons.

 

[NateGray]

If we're talking team vs team then Martian Manhunter alone whipes the floor with them, grabs a beer from their fridge, then walks out the front door.

You start bringing Pheonix into this then Zatanna depowers her and goes on with her day.

Most people's problem with DC IS that they're overpowered afterall so in a fight there really is no question. Green Lantern can handle the X-men by himself, The Flash can handle the X-men by himself, Wonder Woman can handle the X-men by herself, and Superman...I-I really don't think there's any chance of winning here. As for Batman, the prep time thing can only take him so far. I'm sure by himself that he can take down a few X-men like Gambit, Rogue, Jubilee, Cyclops etc. Maybe even knock out Wolverine for a while with an electric charge to the back of the neck. But the psychics will become a problem unless he knew about them in advance. Still though, that is a lot of people for just one guy with no powers, far less for the entire JLU.

As for quality, JL and JLU kicks their ass there as well. Voice acting, animation, writing. The entire DCU is the greatest thing to ever happen to cartoons in general, far less for superhero cartoons.

Ummm no sorry DC is very weak when it comes to telapath's and Jonn couldn't hold his own against Jean much less Prof X either of which could own every JLA memeber with a couple thoughts or say make everyone appear as monsters etc etc etc....
As for the Zatanna comment LMAO do you think she could say anything at all if Phoenix didn't want her to think about this the SPEED OF THOUGHT vs having to say something backwards against that same person who is reading your thoughts.... yeh no chance and we will not even get into the Phoenix force because no one in the JLA could deal with it except maybe Parallax.
As for your comments on how the Xmen would be owned by WW GL Flash etc I could just as easily prove how the some Xmen could own all of them its tit vs tat you are arguing here and its all opinion based.

As for quality I liked both shows but I would give the edge to JLU if only slightly as alot of the Xmen animated series had alot of quality episodes as well.

 

[Savage]

Ummm no sorry DC is very weak when it comes to telapath's and Jonn couldn't hold his own against Jean much less Prof X either of which could own every JLA memeber with a couple thoughts or say make everyone appear as monsters etc etc etc....
As for the Zatanna comment LMAO do you think she could say anything at all if Phoenix didn't want her to think about this the SPEED OF THOUGHT vs having to say something backwards against that same person who is reading your thoughts.... yeh no chance and we will not even get into the Phoenix force because no one in the JLA could deal with it except maybe Parallax.
As for your comments on how the Xmen would be owned by WW GL Flash etc I could just as easily prove how the some Xmen could own all of them its tit vs tat you are arguing here and its all opinion based.

As for quality I liked both shows but I would give the edge to JLU if only slightly as alot of the Xmen animated series had alot of quality episodes as well.

*sigh* Comparing the X-men to the Justice League is like comparing Mortal Kombat to Dragonball Z; Yes it may be unfair but the fact is that the characters in the latter are extraordinarily overpowered in comparison to the prior.

Zatanna-We're talking about a woman who can do ANYTHING as long as she says it backwards. She's a walking Deus Ex-Machina. She mindblocks herself so that Pheonix can't even enter her mind, then she turns her into a snail, and that's the end of that.

Martian Manhunter-Can become intangible, superspeed, superstrength, metamorph, telepath (and a very powerful one at that.) For one he doesn't need a machine to locate someone around the world so I don't know where you get your info. You're talking about a guy that could talk to someone on earth from the moon. The moon! I don't think Xavier can even fathom that. Pheonix may be a tough one though, I'll give you that. The flames alone will provide a phsyical problem as well as mental...This one I'll give to the Pheonix...As Jean Grey she's screwed though.

Flash-Faster than light (yes on the show as well when he actually tries, which was only one episode unfortunately.) No-one knows he's even there even after it's too late except for maybe the Professor and Jean, for whom by the time they notice something's off already have a red glove in their jaw. This would literally be a case of "What the hell just hit me?". They've taken on Speedsters before but Flash is practically a speed god.

In the end I think the X-men are screwed without the help of Pheonix...and even then...Zatanna. Kind of hard to beat someone that treats reality as her play thing. This is coming from an X-men fan too. I don't even buy the Justice League comic monthly. This is basing things purely on the show in which the Justice League are practically gods among men, causing mass destruction with each battle.

 

[Cyclops]

they cancelled inliving color years back cause kids where getting all there language and all that from the show. they almost cancelled south park as well. but xmen wasnt cancelled. they just had a final season just like every other tv show in the world. the one show that i think will go on for a verry long time is saturday night live.

But BET still plays In Living Color reruns, so by your definition, it's not cancelled, right?

 

[NateGray]

*sigh* Comparing the X-men to the Justice League is like comparing Mortal Kombat to Dragonball Z; Yes it may be unfair but the fact is that the characters in the latter are extraordinarily overpowered in comparison to the prior.

Zatanna-We're talking about a woman who can do ANYTHING as long as she says it backwards. She's a walking Deus Ex-Machina. She mindblocks herself so that Pheonix can't even enter her mind, then she turns her into a snail, and that's the end of that.

Martian Manhunter-Can become intangible, superspeed, superstrength, metamorph, telepath (and a very powerful one at that.) For one he doesn't need a machine to locate someone around the world so I don't know where you get your info. You're talking about a guy that could talk to someone on earth from the moon. The moon! I don't think Xavier can even fathom that. Pheonix may be a tough one though, I'll give you that. The flames alone will provide a phsyical problem as well as mental...This one I'll give to the Pheonix...As Jean Grey she's screwed though.

Flash-Faster than light (yes on the show as well when he actually tries, which was only one episode unfortunately.) No-one knows he's even there even after it's too late except for maybe the Professor and Jean, for whom by the time they notice something's off already have a red glove in their jaw. This would literally be a case of "What the hell just hit me?". They've taken on Speedsters before but Flash is practically a speed god.

In the end I think the X-men are screwed without the help of Pheonix...and even then...Zatanna. Kind of hard to beat someone that treats reality as her play thing. This is coming from an X-men fan too. I don't even buy the Justice League comic monthly. This is basing things purely on the show in which the Justice League are practically gods among men, causing mass destruction with each battle.

Lmao sigh right back at ya, no Jonnn is no where near the telapath you think he is compared to Prof X he is a novice at best Jonn can read thoughts and communicate not control people not even in the same ball park nice try though but please get your facts straight.

Again LMAO yeh Zatanna is powerful but she has to SPEAK for anything to happen by the time she even starts to talk a telepath could easily just make her brain stop Iceman could freeze her in a block of ice with a THOUGHT so no sorry thought trumps having to speak every time.

Flash could cause some issues I will give you that he is a tough Xmen matchup unless i get to pullfrom other mutant groups then he could easily be handled as well.

Again you are arguing opinions and it is a tit for tat they match up better than you admit and Zatanna is no Scarlet witch who yet again another mutant who could easily own the whole JLA universe.

We could go round and round but in the end it will just be your opinion vs mine and I can see both sides how the JLA could win just as easily as the Xmen could win it really all depends on whos writing it.

 

[Cyclops]

Iceman was never a member of the X-Men in the animated series.

Scarlet Witch was never a member of the X-Men period. When squaring the animated X-Men against the animated JLA, you have to operate within the animated parameters.

And the JLA's animated perameters are significantly larger than the X-Men's animated perameters.

 

[Savage]

Not to mention of course Zatanna has to speak first but it's not like she'd be stupid enough to be right in their faces. She can do it from like...across the street. Nem-X Eid will do the trick.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Lmao sigh right back at ya, no Jonnn is no where near the telapath you think he is compared to Prof X he is a novice at best Jonn can read thoughts and communicate not control people not even in the same ball park nice try though but please get your facts straight.

No, you need to get your facts straight. You are seriously underestimating the Martian Manhunter here. Professor X needs Cerebro to locate someone. J'onn has no such limitation. The Martian Manhunter is also the most powerful telepath in the DCU.

J'onn also posesses Superman-levled strength, speed, invulnerability, flight, and heat vision. He also can turn invisible, shapeshift, and alter his density. And he has 9 senses. All of these abilities, Xavier lacks.

We could go round and round but in the end it will just be your opinion vs mine and I can see both sides how the JLA could win just as easily as the Xmen could win it really all depends on whos writing it.

Except we are going by the animated series, not the comics. Because of that we are basically having a superhero team fighting against a superhero army. An army that contains members who can single handedly defeat the X-Men team.

 

[juggster-rules]

But BET still plays In Living Color reruns, so by your definition, it's not cancelled, right?

they still show reruns yes but they stopped putting new episodes cause of the language. creators of southpark got in trouble as well afew years ago. they told them to chill out with the language.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

If you're going to include all the JL then this thread is completely useless. But if it's the founding 7 v. the X-Men's 9 there's a debate. Including Pheonix also makes this completely useless.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If you're going to include all the JL then this thread is completely useless. But if it's the founding 7 v. the X-Men's 9 there's a debate. Including Pheonix also makes this completely useless.

I never liked comparing the X-Men and Justice League. They're teams with completely different concepts. The Justice League is much more comparable to the Avengers (a team of big named characters such as Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Spider-Man and are basically the leaders of the superhero community in their universes) than the X-Men

 

[juggster-rules]

Iceman was never a member of the X-Men in the animated series.

Scarlet Witch was never a member of the X-Men period. When squaring the animated X-Men against the animated JLA, you have to operate within the animated parameters.

And the JLA's animated perameters are significantly larger than the X-Men's animated perameters.

i never said iceman was part of the team or scarlet witch. im saying magneto was cause helped them out in may episodes. and phoenix did as well. cyclops fanboy here still doesnt get it

 

[juggster-rules]

If you're going to include all the JL then this thread is completely useless. But if it's the founding 7 v. the X-Men's 9 there's a debate. Including Pheonix also makes this completely useless.

phoenix useless ? uh you dont remember in the phoenix saga gladiator going at phoenix and he didnt do a damn thing to her. and gladiator is more powerful that supes so that proves superman cant do jack to her and hes the most powerful on the team.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Useless because Pheonix would dominate everyone.