You can't take any days off.. EVER!

[JStorm]

Outside of one's week vacation and sporadic ailment, said person(s) can never take a day off.

If you were told this, how would you respond?

 

[jaguarr]

If it were me, I think I would be brushing up my resume'.

jag

 

[BRUTAL]

Depends on the pay of the job...

 

[Erzengel]

I get 2 weeks Vacation, 1 week sick time, 2 personal days, and 10 Holidays. I think I'm up for a 3 weeks Vacation this year.

 

[JStorm]

If it were me, I think I would be brushing up my resume'.

jag

I had the same response.

However, I wanted to hear from you guys for sound advice and comedic responses.

 

[tzarinna]

I wouldn't say anything and call in the next day.

 

[JStorm]

I get 2 weeks Vacation, 1 week sick time, 2 personal days, and 10 Holidays. I think I'm up for a 3 weeks Vacation this year.

I was told that I could not take Sunday off and go to church with my mother.

I then asked, "can I put in for Father's day?" The answer was "if you take vacation time."

 

[Erzengel]

I was told that I could not take Sunday off and go to church with my mother.

I then asked, "can I put in for Father's day?" The answer was "if you take vacation time."

Is this a 5 day a week, 40 hour job?

 

[black_dust]

I get 23 days a year off with pay plus a extra pay bouns for the week im off

 

[JStorm]

Is this a 5 day a week, 40 hour job?

Yes.

 

[Erzengel]

I guess it all depends on if you can be happy there.

Seriously, 1 week for working 52 weeks a year? That's just doesn't seem fair to me.

 

[BRUTAL]

Yes.

Unless you're making about $60 an hour, quit immediatley.

 

[Cherry Darling]

uh..quit? dumb question

 

[JStorm]

I guess it all depends on if you can be happy there.

Seriously, 1 week for working 52 weeks a year? That's just doesn't seem fair to me.

Unless you're making about $60 an hour, quit immediatley.

I am doing what I love: Youth Minister. However, I do not make $60 an hour, but for what I do, I make a decent amount.

I can understand taking random days for random reasons and then one's boss coming in and saying, "you can't take any more personal days." But I asked for Sunday, Mother's day, and I got denied.

Plus, in my intial interview, the parish outlined the importance of me continuing my education. A year and 1/4 into my the job, some of the parish is grumbling that I spend too much time in school.


Basic outline, my boss has allowed me to work from home as much as possible because my job consists of odd hours. Now the some of the parish insist that I spend all my time in the office: 9-5. This does not include the ball games I would attend, or the trips I take the kids on, etc, etc.

Yes, I know my job sounds easy, it is. But to demand more hours on top of my original hours, agreed upon, then to say I can't go see my mother on Morther's day... I'm a little upset.

 

[terry78]

A lot of companies are really funny like that about personal days. Someone abuses it and suddenly we all suffer. No more personal days, or they're counted as unpaid sick days or some **** like that.

 

[jaguarr]

I am doing what I love: Youth Minister. However, I do not make $60 an hour, but for what I do, I make a decent amount.

I can understand taking random days for random reasons and then one's boss coming in and saying, "you can't take any more personal days." But I asked for Sunday, Mother's day, and I got denied.

Plus, in my intial interview, the parish outlined the importance of me continuing my education. A year and 1/4 into my the job, some of the parish is grumbling that I spend too much time in school.


Basic outline, my boss has allowed me to work from home as much as possible because my job consists of odd hours. Now the some of the parish insist that I spend all my time in the office: 9-5. This does not include the ball games I would attend, or the trips I take the kids on, etc, etc.

Yes, I know my job sounds easy, it is. But to demand more hours on top of my original hours, agreed upon, then to say I can't go see my mother on Morther's day... I'm a little upset.

Ahhhhh, more context. Unfortunately, your sort of scenario is not uncommon in jobs that are associated with one's church. They very often have a habit of putting harsh demands on their employees and overstepping their boundaries. I think it's due to the fact that they're playing off of people's faith and trying to either guilt them into going along with these things or they feel that they are owed it by their parishioners in exchange for giving them a place to worship and because...hey...it's all for God, right, so why should you mind never getting any time off? I have some friends that used to work for the Catholic Diocese, here. A husband and wife. They were constantly told that it was "strongly suggested" (read: required) that they attend every single mass, never miss a guest speaker, etc., etc. This amounted to a lot of extra hours outside of their jobs. They were also asked to do a lot of things in their job that really wasn't their responsibility which resulted in a lot of overtime (they were salary, so that meant no actual OT pay). They were severely underpaid for their market worth, had horrible health benefits, forced to travel more than they were originally told they would, never got a raise, and a whole lot of other things that were not in accordance with what they had agreed to when they took the jobs. They both wound up leaving because they couldn't take it anymore. First the wife, and then later the husband who had intended on staying but got treated even MORE poorly after his wife left as if they were extracting revenge on him for her leaving. It got so unbearable for him he had a nervous breakdown and had to take medical leave, which he then used to parlay into an interviewing spree with some other places since he never had time off to do something like that before. They're both much happier and don't feel like their faith is being preyed upon or forced down their throat and used to take advantage of them.

jag

 

[JStorm]

Ahhhhh, more context. Unfortunately, your sort of scenario is not uncommon in jobs that are associated with one's church. They very often have a habit of putting harsh demands on their employees and overstepping their boundaries. I think it's due to the fact that they're playing off of people's faith and trying to either guilt them into going along with these things or they feel that they are owed it by their parishioners in exchange for giving them a place to worship and because...hey...it's all for God, right, so why should you mind never getting any time off? I have some friends that used to work for the Catholic Diocese, here. A husband and wife. They were constantly told that it was "strongly suggested" (read: required) that they attend every single mass, never miss a guest speaker, etc., etc. This amounted to a lot of extra hours outside of their jobs. They were also asked to do a lot of things in their job that really wasn't their responsibility which resulted in a lot of overtime (they were salary, so that meant no actual OT pay). They were severely underpaid for their market worth, had horrible health benefits, forced to travel more than they were originally told they would, never got a raise, and a whole lot of other things that were not in accordance with what they had agreed to when they took the jobs. They both wound up leaving because they couldn't take it anymore. First the wife, and then later the husband who had intended on staying but got treated even MORE poorly after his wife left as if they were extracting revenge on him for her leaving. It got so unbearable for him he had a nervous breakdown and had to take medical leave, which he then used to parlay into an interviewing spree with some other places since he never had time off to do something like that before. They're both much happier and don't feel like their faith is being preyed upon or forced down their throat and used to take advantage of them.

jag

Spoken too true, Jag, too true.


I am caught between a pharasitical people who prey upon my faith and "face value."

I work in a church where it means more to the congregation that I have 100 kids in the youth group, huge trips for the summer and spend 60 hours a week in the office. To them, it makes "their church look good."

I am in a similar situation as your friend. I am not in this job to make old people happy. I am in this job to serve, and help lead young people with, or without faith.

All of this information is helpful, and I thank you all for giving your thoughts.

 

[terry78]

The Lord doesn't take days off. Is that what they tell you?

 

[BRUTAL]

The Lord doesn't take days off... unless you count that last couple thousand years or so...

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

I'd look for another job honestly.

Those days are worse than school.

But if it is a career you actually do love, then there wouldn't be a problem. Since this is a sit-down-at-a-desk-and-push-papers job, I'd say no.

 

[JStorm]

The Lord doesn't take days off. Is that what they tell you?

No.

The youth's parents are grateful of my time and what I do. It is the old people who think I should spend more time in the office, even if I have nothing to do, because it reflects poorly upon the church if I am not in the office.

I feel in love with this work because I could influence young people in a construtive way. Now I am serving anal-rententive old people who want the church to "look good" oppose to serving a different culture.

My faith will not break; but it is shaken.

 

[raybia]

Outside of one's week vacation and sporadic ailment, said person(s) can never take a day off.

If you were told this, how would you respond?

You, like your father, now belong to me! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Outside of one's week vacation and sporadic ailment, said person(s) can never take a day off.

If you were told this, how would you respond?

I would respond, "F**k you," and then, like Jag said, I would polish up my resume.

 

[raybia]

I would respond, "F**k you," and then, like Jag said, I would polish up my resume.

I would polish up my resume first then say F*** you after I got a new job.

 

[jaguarr]

I wouldn't even say "f**k you". I'd just get a new job, leave on great terms and leave them to realize how much I'd really been doing for them while I went on to greener pastures.

jag