You Know What, Wrestling Thread? You're On The List! - Part 232

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I prefer Smackdown to Raw since the split maybe because its more condense but it seems as though RAW falls flat near the middle of the second hour and then tries to pull you back with the main event which by then has lost most people
 
I can't post the video to Del Rio's WCPW Debut Promo because he drops an F-Bomb, but when you watch it, it just goes to show you how cynical / unappreciative WWE fans in general are. When he is anywhere else be it House Of Hardcore, Lucha Undergroud, etc. the fans love him!

wwe fans and IWC in general are hypocrite and have short memory

hypocrite = if a wrestler they like have no charisma and no mic skills they They will say this is not important what is important is his ring work and then use no charisma and no mic skills on wrestlers they do not like Del Rio's

short memory = wrestlers will have bad Booking Then people will forget how talented they are Example Primo & Epico When they came back as The Shining Stars I saw posts on Forums asking why they still have a jop and I'm thinking to myself because their two talented wrestlers and a good team
 
I'm also noticing how quick a wrestler is dropped after they finally start getting the success that the fans say they deserve. Honestly I'm waiting for it to happen to AJ Styles and even Owens.
 
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So I was leaving work today, and stopped in traffic, I noticed the guy stopped coming from the opposite way. I was like "damn that dude looks just like Cody Rhodes".

Then I remembered there is a Big Time Wresting show tonight and he was heading in the direction of Dorton Arena. I just thought it was so weird to just randomly pass him in a car.
 
Smackdown is unwatchable. It's basically AJ Styles and a bunch of stiffs.

Really? Other than the first episode after the draft, it's been killing Raw IMO. It's an hour shorter which is a major plus. Makes the show tighter and flow much better. And they seem to be using their talent way better too.
 
So I was leaving work today, and stopped in traffic, I noticed the guy stopped coming from the opposite way. I was like "damn that dude looks just like Cody Rhodes".

Then I remembered there is a Big Time Wresting show tonight and he was heading in the direction of Dorton Arena. I just thought it was so weird to just randomly pass him in a car.


Speaking of Cody Rhodes.........................

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I can't post the video to Del Rio's WCPW Debut Promo because he drops an F-Bomb, but when you watch it, it just goes to show you how cynical / unappreciative WWE fans in general are. When he is anywhere else be it House Of Hardcore, Lucha Undergroud, etc. the fans love him!

I dunno man. I've never been a fan of the guy. He's boring.

It's kind of like watching a film with a wooden actor - same difference. And I'm not talking about promo ability either.
 
I'm also noticing how quick a wrestler is dropped after they finally start getting the success that the fans say they deserve. Honestly I'm waiting for it to happen to AJ Styles and even Owens.

I think AJ will be fine, we've seen in the past that he's basically bulletproof. TNA did some terrible things to AJ during his time there but fans always loved him because of his "It factor".

Owens on the other hand. I can easily see fan turning on him after a while, just like they did to Dean Ambrose.
 
Fans turned on Ambrose because he is complacent and sloppy. Owens bleeds wrestling. The fans can sense that. I don't see them 'turning on' him.
 
I think AJ will be fine, we've seen in the past that he's basically bulletproof. TNA did some terrible things to AJ during his time there but fans always loved him because of his "It factor".
To be fair, AJ won every male championship TNA had at least twice
2X TNA Grand Slam Champion (one of only four ever, and the only one to do it more than once)
5X TNA Triple Crown Champion (one of only seven ever, and the only one to do it more than once)
2X TNA World Heavyweight Champion
3X NWA-TNA World Heavyweight Champion
6X TNA X Division Champion
2X TNA Television Champion
2X TNA World Tag Team Champion
4X NWA-TNA World Tag Team Champion

They didn't always use him right but he still ended up with the most impressive resume in the history of the company -- by far.

He even went over Sting and Angle multiple times, which is huge because those two were being paid directly by Spike TV and their signings were prerequisites for TNA's national TV deal.
 
Smackdown has been the 'A show' for me since the spit.

Smackdown has been having good shoot fueled feuds. It has the better women's division despite having arguably the weaker women's talent on the roster. The Tag division is also good on Smackdown. Raw has talented tag teams but the booking has been lame.
Speaking of Cody Rhodes.........................

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I can't wait for a Cody and Sandow reunion.
 
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Fans turned on Ambrose because he is complacent and sloppy. Owens bleeds wrestling. The fans can sense that. I don't see them 'turning on' him.

It felt like I was watching Austin Vs. Hart at Backlash. Styles was booed and Ambrose was cheered during their entrances. By the end of the match, the crowd turned on the babyface...completely!

I guess Styles is just that charismatic.
 
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Pat Patterson documentary!!! This was incredible.
 
I have a question about the Rock's film career:

- We know that the guy is a box office draw in the United States, but what is his popularity overseas? Does the overseas crowd who watch major movies consider him still a pro wrestler? Or an actor now? I think the Europeans see him as an actor now but what about the rest of the world? Is he considered an overseas draw in the movies like he was in WWE?
 
All his movies make money overseas. So I'm pretty sure his reception is the same.
 
wwe fans and IWC in general are hypocrite and have short memory

hypocrite = if a wrestler they like have no charisma and no mic skills they They will say this is not important what is important is his ring work and then use no charisma and no mic skills on wrestlers they do not like Del Rio's

short memory = wrestlers will have bad Booking Then people will forget how talented they are Example Primo & Epico When they came back as The Shining Stars I saw posts on Forums asking why they still have a jop and I'm thinking to myself because their two talented wrestlers and a good team

the big difference between the WWE fans and other wrestling fans is that 90 percent of the WWE audience doesn't watch any other wrestling BUT WWE....so if they aren't in the WWE "it doesn't count" as far as they are concerned
 
My only real criticism of Del Rio is that he got so much while with WWE despite never being that over in WWE. I don't see much of a difference in non-WWE Alberto's act, but if he's over he's over. He doesn't work in WWE though, that's what I think. Plus, his outrage at WWE over racism means absolutely nothing because he went back, and that lost points with me. I can't take any of his Mexico pride stuff seriously in retrospect because it just seems like a vehicle that he used to get over as a face. He was still directly dealing with people he feels are racist the second time, so it's just another case of beliefs for sale.
 
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Money talks, as they say.

He wasn't really missed the first time around. He's definitely not missed the second time.

WWE arguably have the richest roster of talent (across the board) than anytime in their history.
 
To be fair, AJ won every male championship TNA had at least twice
2X TNA Grand Slam Champion (one of only four ever, and the only one to do it more than once)
5X TNA Triple Crown Champion (one of only seven ever, and the only one to do it more than once)
2X TNA World Heavyweight Champion
3X NWA-TNA World Heavyweight Champion
6X TNA X Division Champion
2X TNA Television Champion
2X TNA World Tag Team Champion
4X NWA-TNA World Tag Team Champion

They didn't always use him right but he still ended up with the most impressive resume in the history of the company -- by far.

He even went over Sting and Angle multiple times, which is huge because those two were being paid directly by Spike TV and their signings were prerequisites for TNA's national TV deal.

walked into NJPW on his first night and walked out with a title

how many foreign born wrestlers do that there?
 
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