You Want Proof That Rap Is Dead?

[BlackLantern]

Probably for the same reason I occasionally wander into a religious debate thread. Pure spectacle.

Part of it is music has never really impacted my life on any level....so its tough for me to understand how it can seriously impact others...

 

[knowsbleed]

You said skaters don't like Lupe Fiasco, but you never specifically said why. On top of that, people started arguing with you without getting the specifics. It's like you barely started to say something negative about Lupe Fiasco, and people jumped on you before you actually said why you said something negative.

Basically, I want fleshed out reasons before I pick a side in this argument. What do skaters say about Lupe and Pharrell? Then I'll tell you if I have an opinion on their opinions.

My use of the term 3rd party must be different, and more extreme, than yours.

Hehe... I find all this very amusing because TS is not the only skater here. Hello, (raises hand). I skate as well and have nothing but love for Lupe.

 

[Manic]

I am The Spawn.

Since 2002, EVERYONE has jumped on me.

It's what I do.

I did that on purpose...I can talk **** without talking.

It's my super power.

So basically, you were just trying to get a rise out of people? You were pushing buttons for the sake of pushing buttons? You don't have a real point in your argument because your ultimate goal is to antagonize other users for fun? Really?

 

[BlackLantern]

TS is making it sound like he speaks for all skaters though...IMO

 

[The Spawn]

Yes and no.

Everyone here sucks.

I don't need to explain that at all.

But it is true.

Even I will say I suck.

But to get back on topic...






Black people love country.



If I were to say that, you would read or hear:

All black people love country.

Truth is, what people mean to say is:

The majority of black people love country.

And in this country, majority > fractions of that whole which encompasses that majority.

Same thing with skaters not liking Fiasco.

You don't really care what the whole thinks...because they don't think one thing...and who cares about opinions that differ if it isn't 50/50, or 33/33/33 or 25/25/25/25 ?



Now I never said Fact: skaters hate fiasco

I said, I can tell you what I hear skaters say.

And if you can take your 1/4 of something...your classroom, your city, your country...more times than not you can apply it to a bigger demgraphic given that both test groups share similarities.



And I didn't know you skated. You didn't state that. You had a bit more intel on me than I did on you...but touche nevertheless.

 

[The Spawn]

We need more "IMO"s and "IMHO"s....cuz around here it doesn't seem implied.

 

[BlackLantern]

so basically the Skaters that TS knows like Lupe Fiasco....works for me

 

[Manic]

Everyone here sucks.

I don't need to explain that at all.

I'll mark you don't on my list of Hypesters it's worthless to attempt a serious conversation with.

 

[The Spawn]

That is not what I said Lantern.

 

[The Spawn]

I'm getting tongue tied with the beginning of that post Manic.

 

[BlackLantern]

That is not what I said Lantern.

So do you speak for all skaters or just the ones that you know?

 

[The Spawn]

I can't speak for all skaters.

Only the ones I interact with.

But you can go on multiple message boards, read established magazines, read their letters pages and find out what a great deal have to say.

If you want.

 

[BlackLantern]

I can't speak for all skaters.

Only the ones I interact with.

That answers my question. Thank You

 

[The Spawn]

What were you thinking when you made that post?

 

[BlackLantern]

Spawn...I'm not terribly concerned with your POV on the subject....but your earlier statement made it sound like you spoke for ALL skaters...I just wanted some clarification on that.

 

[The Spawn]

Figured.

 

[knowsbleed]

My point earlier was just that Lupe and even Pharrell (as goofy as he is) opened up a lot of younger kids into skating who wouldn't have gotten into it in the first place. Kids who listen to rap as opposed to punk or rock... and I don't see how that type of exposure is a bad thing.

 

[The Spawn]

It's a purist vs....I don't even know what to call them thing.

Even some pros are against it. Others think they're being selfish and maybe even elitist if they think skating is just theres.

Rea Shecklers interview in one of the mags.

 

[BlackLantern]

It's a purist vs....I don't even know what to call them thing.

Even some pros are against it. Others think they're being selfish and maybe even elitist if they think skating is just theres.

Rea Shecklers interview in one of the mags.

I have similar feelings about gaming. Years ago it was something only us nerds did and now suddenly, since its profitable, there are Hollywood parties for game premieres and these starlets saying they like video games and all that **** when in truth they probably don't know an XBOX from a juice box.

 

[Manic]

I'm getting tongue tied with the beginning of that post Manic.

I meant "down" instead of "don't." I'm not a morning person.

 

[WTFimVENOM]

rap died when Souljah Boy became a popular fad

 

[BlackLantern]

rap died when Souljah Boy became a popular fad

no it cried in the corner though out of lack of self respect

 

[WTFimVENOM]

no it cried in the corner though out of lack of self respect

lol actually thats a better analogy

 

[Cmill216]

When songs that have barely-legible guys talking over beats become "the illest" and words and phrases had to be entirely made up for songs to be completed, you know the genre has fallen.

For example: Knuck If You Buck, Soulja Boy, Crank Dat Batman.

See this is the problem I have with this argument: If you're going to say ish like this, than what would you say about rock? When bands like Nickelback are selling 6 million records for their latest garbage disc, while other more talented bands can't make a dent on any chart, would you say rock is dead too?

Sure, I admit, there are some pretty good artists out there still, but they're barely making headlines for the previously mentioned idiots.

Jay-Z went platinum, Kanye went double platinum, Common's latest debuted at number 1 and went gold, Talib Kweli's latest debuted at number 2, Lupe put out a top ten hit, the Roots are slated to debut high....

The terrible **** isn't the only thing selling in the genre.

It's dead.

No, it's not.

Do you even listen to rap?

I can barely listen to any of it anymore...

You're saying you can barely listen to an entire genre of music because of a few knuckleheads who are riding high on the pop charts? Color me confused.

Yes, rap is dead.

No, it's not.

 

[Cmill216]

Well I would gather that a good number of the Hype could really care less about the rap genre (myself included, and as a black man that should be a hint to some people)

LAWL.

As if because you're black you're genetically predisposed to liking rap, but even you don't like it which somehow means there's something wrong with the genre.

Or am I reading too much into that?