Your Favorite Scene part 2: Batman Returns

Favorite Returns Scene

  • The Tree Lighting Ceremony Attack: Batman's first appearance

  • Gotham City Mayhem: Batman confronts Penguin and Catwoman for First Time

  • The Tree Re-Lighting Ceremony: Frame Up/Cat Kiss/Batman Takes Wing

  • The Oswald Cobblepot School of Driving

  • Kiss under the missletoe: Bruce and Selina discover identities

  • The Penguin's Patton Speech: The Bat Skiboat/March of the Penguins (not the good kind)

  • Split...Right Down the Center: Bruce persuades Selina...Not a Happy Ending

  • The Penguin's Death: Self Explanatory


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I like the scene where the Penguin gives his mayor speech and Bruce cuts in and everyone leaves him including Max and Selina. It was almost sad because you know he has a problem with abandonment.
 
I like the scene where the Penguin gives his mayor speech and Bruce cuts in and everyone leaves him including Max and Selina. It was almost sad because you know he has a problem with abandonment.

Doesn't happen in the comics though!
 
The ending had the most dismal part of the movie. To have Bruce/Selina begin a solid relationship would've made BR unbalanced. I like how all the darkness is summed up perfectly with Bruce getting out of the car, and not finding Catwoman. He believes she's somewhere out in Gotham, and she knows the same about him. And that's the only thing remotely resembling peace that they get. Sad, but rightly so!
 
Doesn't happen in the comics though!


fu** the comics, this is a movie.

Oh, and BB has PLENTY of emotional moments.

none of which effected me in any way

It was the most intimate take on the character yet.

thats your opinion

The touching moments between father and son?

you mean the "corny and clich'ed" moments between father and son"? the whole "why do we fall" thing was stupid.

Young Bruce and Alfred and/or Gordon scenes after his parent's death?

didnt effect me. the gordon scene was alright but the alfred scene was too whiny for a batman movie. felt like it should have been in superman returns.

The un-spoken bond of kinship between Lucious and Bruce, when bringing up the memory of his father?

i dont remember that......guess it just wasnt very good to remmeber.

The realization of Bruce that he has inherited his father's great legacy, and voiced through Rachel has the approval that his dead parents would be proud of him?

the whole taking back his fathers legacy Stuff imo was also corny. what is this, opera? and it was katie holmes character that ruined most of the movie for me, and all her moments were terrible, along with her dialogue. i blame both the casting director and david goyer.

All more touching moments than that. Easily.

to you perhaps, not to me. they were all corny and cheesy moments, as well as overly emotional and superficial moments.
 
fu** the comics, this is a movie.
If there wasn't comics, it wouldn't have even been called "Batman" ...

:whatever:

GoogleMe94 said:
The touching moments between father and son?
Yes, because thats where the ACTUAL heart of the original story of Batman comes from. Not from Selina Kyle. The perpetual love for his dead parents, and the amazing legacy of his father he's always trying to live up to, because he knows the way the citizens of Gotham looked up to his father as sort of a hero. Bruce sees himself as being an in adequate comparison to his father ... when in fact he is doing just as much, if not more than his father ever did. And in always striving for more, Bruce has made himself into a legend even his father's legacy can't touch. He will never get the actual approval of his father, so he continues on his mission, always believing he hasn't lived up to his father's image.

GoogleMe94 said:
you mean the "corny and clich'ed" moments between father and son"?
What's corny and cliched about that father / son interaction? That is the meat of the story, kid. Or more specifically, name exactly what is cliched in ANY of those scenes.

GoogleMe94 said:
the whole "why do we fall" thing was stupid.
No, it wasn't. Maybe you don't understand it, or the message it is giving out ... but that is a heroe's anthem. It has a meaning and an actual purpose. It means to always have hope. Which is a metaphor for what Batman is ... hope, to a fallen city. "Why do we fall?" ... "So we can learn to pick ourselves up." That subplot alone has more heart and character than anything seen in the previous four Batman movies put together. I know this paragraph has confusing terms such as "themes" and "meanings" or "sub plots" to someone who just gets off on style over subtance ... as you are obviously a Tim Burton groupie. Tim Burton groupies usually don't get these things. hehe

Just alittle good natured ribbing. :cwink:

GoogleMe94 said:
didnt effect me. the gordon scene was alright but the alfred scene was too whiny for a batman movie.
How was it "whiny" ... the kid lost his parents and cries saying he misses them. That isn't "whiny" at all. Make sense if you're going to try and throw mud on the best Batman film yet.

GoogleMe94 said:
felt like it should have been in superman returns.
The hell are you talking about, BatWing6655?

GoogleMe94 said:
i dont remember that......guess it just wasnt very good to remmeber.
Or you're choosing to forget, because you know its awesome and you're dilberetly ignoring it. I mean, you obviously like the movie. You can't ever stop mentioning it.

GoogleMe94 said:
the whole taking back his fathers legacy Stuff imo was also corny.
Then you don't understand and/or like the character of Batman at all. Because at its root cause, that's what it is all about.

GoogleMe94 said:
what is this, opera?
No, but the story is of operatic decent. So the themes, dialogue, characters and message is big and bold ... thus being operatic.

GoogleMe94 said:
and it was katie holmes character that ruined most of the movie for me, and all her moments were terrible
I agree. They all seemed forced. It seemed she was playing herself to seriously, in order to match up witht he acting greats surrounding her. She was just sticking out like a sore thumb, the entire movie. But that's unerstandable considering this was easily the best cast ever for a comic book movie.

This is also why I'm glad we got Maggie for the sequel. However, I did think Holmes was good in the next to last scene of the movie.

But are you sure this is the reason that ruined the movie for you? I see you name something different each time you talk about it, as if you're searching for reasons to not like it ... b/c you know its so great and so well liked.

GoogleMe94 said:
to you perhaps, not to me. they were all corny and cheesy moments, as well as overly emotional and superficial moments.
If you considered any of that cheesy, then how is the scene in Returns any less cheesy for spouting off the "a misle toe can be deadly" shpeal for a second time as a mean that Bruce and Selina discover their identities. That scene was awesome, just as those emotional scenes in BEGINS were. And yes, there is way more emotion entrapped in the death of one's parents, and the mourning of them as an eight year old child ... then the scene in Returns where Bruce and Selina discover their identities. Not even close. You're saying the foundation for the Batman mythos is corny, by your statements regarding the father/son legacy plot. You do realize this, don't you buddy?

:dry:
 
Why do people feed the troll that is GoogleMe?

Ignore him.
 
GoogleMe94 has a huge chip on his shoulder about something.
 
He's just intolerant of other people being intolerant of his opinion. Very self-destructive.

But he's only on the forum to challenge Nolanites. He's never done anything else. People poke holes in his lame arguments over... and over... and over again, but he dodges having to own up to his idiocy by letting the subject go for a day.
 
He's just intolerant of other people being intolerant of his opinion. Very self-destructive.

But he's only on the forum to challenge Nolanites. He's never done anything else. People poke holes in his lame arguments over... and over... and over again, but he dodges having to own up to his idiocy by letting the subject go for a day.
Just like Batwing6655...?

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So many great moments. My top two favorite is when Wayne is sitting in the cave then the light comes up, he goes out to fight and my other favorite is when he pulls out the bat-glider and glides over the city.
 
So many great moments. My top two favorite is when Wayne is sitting in the cave then the light comes up, he goes out to fight and my other favorite is when he pulls out the bat-glider and glides over the city.
Sheer bliss right there. :word:
 
for me, since batman returns is such a dark haunting movie that leaves a depressing aftertaste for me, not a lot of any of the scenes are my favorite but i love the "thigns change" dialogue between batman and penguin.
 
The scene Selina and Bruce find out each other´s identities is way more touching than anything in Batman Begins.
 
Penguin's death. Immediatelly then Penguin's speech.

At the theater those moments gave me the goosebumps.
 
The scene where Batman confronts the Penguin after beating the **** out of his circus gang is my favorite. "Admiring your handiwork?" Classic scene.

My second favorite would be when the Penguin has taken control of the Batmobile. I love when Batman turns the tables and Penguin is pissed off.

The last scene would be the death of the Penguin. It was sort of cheesy, but touching at the same time.
 
One of my favourite scenes in the movie would have to be when Bruce, is doing some investergating on who the penguin is,then straight after we see the batmobile on patrol and stops out side the penguin's window.

I think he know's who his parents are, there's something else.

Also the last scene in the movie where bruce, run's down the alley looking for catwomen, that scene is so sad.With danny elfman's music in the back ground.Bruce returns alone.
 
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Hey Kev. I have my favorite moment from Returns in mind, and maybe you can help me out with putting it up on YouTube and then putting a link on here...

It's the smallest possible moment in the film, and is easily overlooked in favor of the larger scenes, but it is my absolutely favorite moment in the film.

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After taking out numerous Red Triangle gang members on the streets, Batman begins walking through back alleys, with the dynamite previously strapped to a gang member in hand. Without warning, Batman lashes out a right arm, socking another gang member WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING, followed by taking his collar in one hand and spinning in place, hurling him off into space.

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Just something about that one gesture of taking the gang clown out not only without hesitation, but without even looking at the guy, and doing it so effortlessly. I LOVE that moment.

CFE
 
You know what scene is absolutely perfect and is not here?

Bruce Wayne sitting in the dark and right then the bat-signal enters through the window.
 
You know what scene is absolutely perfect and is not here?

Bruce Wayne sitting in the dark and right then the bat-signal enters through the window.

That's sandwiched in with the first Tree Lighting Ceremony Attack: Batman's First Appearance.

I tried to come up with titles for the scene that encompassed all of the great moments.

CFE
 
The part where the penguin mows down the model with the batarang. Gruesome
 
My favourite scene in BR is actually Selina and Batman both preparing to go to the Ice Princess after her kidnapping. I love the way Burton keeps cutting from Batman's orderly transformation and journey to Selina's hurried, disorderly change in her little car. It shows the contrasts between them really well.

From the poll, though, I'd vote for Kiss under the missletoe: Bruce and Selina discover identities. I like that the revelation was subtle. There didn't need to be a huge dramatic scene; the way it was done was very effective thanks to the chemistry between Keaton and Pfeiffer.
 
- The Bat-Signal scene.
- The scene when Batman fights the random thugs (that leads to the next scene)
- The confrontation between Batman, Penguin, and Catwoman.
- When Batman descends down the grapple to Catwoman and Max Schreck.
 
I rewatched this film for the first time in AGES last weekend, and it really is the best batman film put on screen. I loved Begins as well, but the dialogue in Returns is a lot more intersting, and the production design and score are almost perfect. admittedly the plot is a bit hackneyed, but its really more about character interactions than a fantastical plot to save gotham. I also like the way that, depsite penguin and catwoman being in the film, the true bad guy, i think the only really, bad through choice charatcer in the film, is max shreck. and he's played by christopher walken.

on a side note, i used to hate how the penguin was done, but watching it now - the idea of him being a freak and an outcast works SO much better than, well, just another mobster.


favourite scene - the final conversation in the zoo. though i would also nominate every line of dialogue christopher walken has ;)
 

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