Your Reboots and Remakes

[Iceman]

And another...

The Avengers.

Too soon, right? Well, to be truthful, it would more be The Ultimates. While I have no problem with the real Avengers movie, I would love to see a version done that has more subtext, and is really more about the socio-political ramifications of the existence of superheroes than about anything else.

I would probably take the general plot of Ultimates 2; really dig into the concept of what superheroes' existence really has on society as a whole, and what it means for a group of superheroes to be sponsored by a bureaucratic body (even if it's an international one).

Moreover, I'd use every features character as an allegorical piece of our modern political tapestry. Have Cap represent America; have Iron Man represent capitalism; have Thor represent socialism; have Banner possibly represent the underclass, or socially obtuse; have the Pyms represent the normal middle class; have the Maximoffs represent the patrician upperclassmen, etc.

I wouldn't shove any particular message or meaning down anyone throat. Rather, simply by having these various key figures placed within a normal superhero narrative, it will automatically and naturally pose socio-political questions that the audience themselves could draw conclusions and answers to.

No way, we got 3 months of summer left!! t:

 

[Iceman]

Super Mario

Love the casting

I just want a good sci-fi director to come along and erase Terminator 3 and Terminator Salvation from history. Pick up with a new T3 after T2: Judgment Day.

Of course. Compulsory. What a franchise and what a way for it to go.

The Lord of the Rings.
I'd like a reboot of this because I feel Jackson's trilogy is nothing but a pale shadow of what a real LotR series could be. Also, it doesn't seem to me that he actually understands what the book was trying to tell.

So, yeah, I want a reboot, and inb4 someone mentions Tom Bombadil.

Batman
I love Nolan's movies, but I also can't wait to see what a more visionary, creative director would be able to do with the character. So, no "waiting 3/4 years" crap, reboot it immediately.

You're probably joking but I want to talk about these anyway.


Whether or not you have a point, LOTR would have been a lot worse in most current director's hands. I don't know if fans would even want to see it done again even though they love it. They've just got too many things right 1st time in spite of what they got wrong.

More visionary? Whatever, it will get rebooted for sure. Batman will go on forever with different interpretations. And 3 to 4 years is kind of immediate no?

i know it's going to cause uproar to some SW prequel trilogy fans here, but i'll would definately reboot the prequel trilogy, of course it's not going to happen in reality, but with better writing, directing it could be so much better movies than the actual ones.

Agreed x1000. The prequel trilogy gets better as it goes on but the weight of the whole thing is undercut by what goes wrong earlier on. Even Episode I has some great parts but if it and the rest of the prequel trilogy delivered what most Star Wars fans wanted I'm sure it would have been the biggest film ever. People argue that it's a point of view but other great films have an obvious majority support and noone can describe the reception to the prequels as anything better than mixed.

 

[Abudefduf]

Whether or not you have a point, LOTR would have been a lot worse in most current director's hands. I don't know if fans would even want to see it done again even though they love it. They've just got too many things right 1st time in spite of what they got wrong.

Or it could've been a lot better, depending on your point of view. I'm just not Peter Jackson's biggest fan, that's all.
I'd even be fine with an animated adaptation, it doesn't have to be live-action. I'm not deluding myself into thinking that a LotR reboot will ever happen... but I can dream.

More visionary? Whatever, it will get rebooted for sure. Batman will go on forever with different interpretations. And 3 to 4 years is kind of immediate no?

More visionary, yes; I mean, someone with a little more creativity . Nolan's movies look great, but he's no Burton.
And 4 years is just way too much imho. I see no point in waiting, but I do know that is exactly what is gonna happen. But then again, I can hope.

 

[actionavenue]

Jaws might be an interesting remake, now that CG can provide unlimited visual effects. The Crow would also be a potentially good remake. It's doubtful someone can improve upon the original regarding both these movies, however, it would fun to see an attempt. Look at this way, a crappy remake gives fans the opportunity to appreciate the original all the more. And if the remake is really, really bad (the new Nightmare on Elm Street comes to mind), it can be the subject of scorn and ridicule for the next century!
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[Roose Bolton]

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[Roose Bolton]

DRAGONBALL Z

They need to put some actual time,money and effort into realizing the unique and fantastical world that Akira Toriyama. Someone like Joseph Kosinski could probably pull it off really well.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Abudefduf]

Being faithful to the source material or its themes is not, has never been, and by all means should never be the point of adapting a novel to the screen.

Absolutely true. But then you've got to show me a valid alternative, and Jackson didn't, not for me at least.

The LOTR trilogy is a great cinematographic saga that stands on its own, as it should.

Yeah, and that's my problem, I don't think these movies can stand on their own: they're not faithful enough to the source material but they also don't distance themselves enough to become a different entity.

But I realize that I'm in the ridiculously outnumbered minority who thinks this and I won't argue. lol

EDIT: and btw, I do like the LotR trilogy, but I don't *love* it, if that makes any sense. Which is interesting considering that Tolkien's LotR is my favorite book of all time. Well, so far at least.

 

[Iceman]

Or it could've been a lot better, depending on your point of view. I'm just not Peter Jackson's biggest fan, that's all.
I'd even be fine with an animated adaptation, it doesn't have to be live-action. I'm not deluding myself into thinking that a LotR reboot will ever happen... but I can dream.

More visionary, yes; I mean, someone with a little more creativity . Nolan's movies look great, but he's no Burton.
And 4 years is just way too much imho. I see no point in waiting, but I do know that is exactly what is gonna happen. But then again, I can hope.

OK you're not joking! I guess if you're looking for whatever you imagined when you read the books that could be so boundless and impressive that it could be a lot better than Jackson's films & I have no problem with that. In that case an animated version would probably have most chance of meeting your requirements and I'd love to see that happen. Maybe though you can appreciate that while Jackson's films may have failed you they are still a half decent effort given the intimidating source material and what your average Hollywood director would have come up with? I am a big fan of both book & film & I certainly have plenty of nitpicks (& some things I outright don't like) but I'm happy that everyone who worked on it tried as hard as they could to deliver the best product they were capable of delivering. But if it's your opinion it's fine.

Maybe we've got a different version of visionary lol. I do love Burton's Batman though. In terms of time, 2 years would surely be the absolute minimum with 3 years a more normal gap. Given that it would have to be a complete reboot from the ground up with all actors & concept replaced I see 4 years as realistic. I think the GA also likes a break between reboots. I know people here do judging by the Spidey reboot reception, initially at least.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Wesley Dodds]

There are pretty much only three 'reboots' I really think would be worthwhile.
The first is Fantastic Four, the second is The Rocketeer and the third? The Shadow.

Three great properties with endless cinematic potential and yet the movies we've gotten just didn't quite understand them properly.

 

[Iceman]

I'd like to see Alexander done well.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm no fan of Jackson. I even think he's an average director who got lucky with LOTR.

But really, what the books were trying to tell has to stop being used as an argument by discontented fans.

Being faithful to the source material or its themes is not, has never been, and by all means should never be the point of adapting a novel to the screen.

The LOTR trilogy is a great cinematographic saga that stands on its own, as it should.

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As for answering the OP's question, I'd be glad to see the remake of basically anything, classics or not. There's no such thing as an untouchable film.

If the remakes are better than the originals, then fair play to them, I'm always pleased to see a good film. I won't forget the originals, I'll just like both and enjoy their differences (i.e. Millennium - TGWTDT)

If they mess it up, well, who cares? Having a sh**ty remake does not make the original any less good.

So bring on remakes of the Star Wars OT, PT, Blade Runner, LOTR, Batman, Jaws, Terminator (why just the third one? Let's remake them all), whatever... I don't care, and I'll wait in line to see them.

I think the problem with adaptations, and this is truth, you can't please everyone. So let's say there is a reboot of Lord of the Rings and it's good..you'll still gonna alienate another group of people. That's just how the human race (fanboys) works, I guess.

For example, I worked at a retail where we barely had staff available during the day. Customers complained. So they hired more people in so that the store is fully staffed. Guess what? Customers now complain that there's too many staff members in the store and they're being too helpful. That's just life. Fickle people.


I think Peter did as well as he could with the movies. Adapting is adapting; it can't be a carbon copy because it's a different medium.

 

[CConn]

As for answering the OP's question, I'd be glad to see the remake of basically anything, classics or not. There's no such thing as an untouchable film.

If the remakes are better than the originals, then fair play to them, I'm always pleased to see a good film. I won't forget the originals, I'll just like both and enjoy their differences (i.e. Millennium - TGWTDT)

If they mess it up, well, who cares? Having a sh**ty remake does not make the original any less good.

So bring on remakes of the Star Wars OT, PT, Blade Runner, LOTR, Batman, Jaws, Terminator (why just the third one? Let's remake them all), whatever... I don't care, and I'll wait in line to see them.

That's not really my question, though. I'm more taking about lackluster or mediocre, or outdated movies that have some spark of potential for a remake.

I mean, obviously you can remake anything in the world, and if it's good, that's awesome. But what are those projects that just have that spark of quality or originality that simply weren't able to be developed to their fullest at the time they were made?

I think we can safely say that while there may one day be remakes of Star Wars, Terminator, etc. that are better than the originals, currently we don't watch the originals and go "wow, that movie really needs to be remade to be enjoyable."

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Max J Power]

-Hancock. I'd like to see a whole movie like stick to the concept of "unlikable hero tries to change his image through PR." That would be a fresh and exciting movie. Not like the half-good, half-generic movie we got.
-Man of the Year. This premise would also make a good movie if it stuck to just being a comedy rather than throwing in elements of an ill-conceived political thriller.
-Click. As a drama or smarter comedy, this idea could be gold.
-The Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons. I haven't read these books, but I felt like both movies would have been better if they were faster-paced and didn't try to be so dramatic. I'm not thinking National Treasure silly (I do like those movies, though), but there's potential for the Robert Langdon movies to be more fun.

 

[Donnie Darko]

It's weird. I think the Da Vinci Code book was way better than the movie, but I can't pinpoint anything that would make the movie any better.

 

[CConn]

I think all the films I mentioned look outdated. Look at the motion animated T-800 in Terminator. The effect is horrible, and would benefit from today's technology.

Star Wars is in the same boat : the prequels already look outdated because of their extensive use of CGI, and the OT because of its not always convincing FX, puppeteering work, etc.

Basically every film shot and released before 2010 could benefit from remakes, if only from a visual point of view.

But I understand what you meant though, it was more of a "What films disappoint you in their present form?" kind of thing.

I don't think there is any film I saw that made me go "OK this really needs to get remade." but I admit I'd be curious to see a modern version of Metropolis and other silent era classics, if only for the inclusion of sound.

Oh, no, I get you now.

Yeah, if you think they look dated, then I could see why you'd want a remake.

There's still a lot of older films that - for me - don't need to be remade. M, 12 Angry Men, Dr. No, etc. are all examples of movies that I never really need to see a remake to.

 

[Gianakin_]

Highlander, hands down. Although it's happening, it's the one idea I'd like to see done properly. And it's the one idea I hadn't come up with that I'd touch if I was ever given the budget.

Also, the Omen franchise. With Damian surviving no1 (the '76 version), it was a good idea to follow him as he grows up and embraces his legacy. The sequels were terrible (save for Sam Neill in no3) though, and I would love to see the idea be realized with good movies. Too bad the 2006 remake was a piece of s**t.

 

[Octoberist]

Oh, no, I get you now.

Yeah, if you think they look dated, then I could see why you'd want a remake.

There's still a lot of older films that - for me - don't need to be remade. M, 12 Angry Men, Dr. No, etc. are all examples of movies that I never really need to see a remake to.

But I also think that movies that look dated could be looked upon as time capsules. And if the movie is good enough, you'll pass the dated visual effects, etc. That applies to the original Star Wars or whatever. People still love Wizard of Oz because it was groundbreaking. Dated sure, but it's a wonderful movie still to this day.

And add to that, with remakes, the ratio of good ones is slight compared to the bad ones. Modern Hollywood can be misguided, and hire a cheap hack to capitalize on a familiar title. Unless you have a talented director who PROACTIVELY wants to do a reboot/remake, like the Coen Bros. or Nolan. And that's fine.

 

[Lord]

And another...

The Avengers.

Too soon, right? Well, to be truthful, it would more be The Ultimates. While I have no problem with the real Avengers movie, I would love to see a version done that has more subtext, and is really more about the socio-political ramifications of the existence of superheroes than about anything else.

I would probably take the general plot of Ultimates 2; really dig into the concept of what superheroes' existence really has on society as a whole, and what it means for a group of superheroes to be sponsored by a bureaucratic body (even if it's an international one).

Moreover, I'd use every features character as an allegorical piece of our modern political tapestry. Have Cap represent America; have Iron Man represent capitalism; have Thor represent socialism; have Banner possibly represent the underclass, or socially obtuse; have the Pyms represent the normal middle class; have the Maximoffs represent the patrician upperclassmen, etc.

I wouldn't shove any particular message or meaning down anyone throat. Rather, simply by having these various key figures placed within a normal superhero narrative, it will automatically and naturally pose socio-political questions that the audience themselves could draw conclusions and answers to.

If they ever reboot the Avengers i would like them to more directly base it on Mark Miller's Ultimates, i think his story would be great for film, The Ultimayes and The Ultimates 2 would be epic. They could even find Miller and with him make their oun Ultimates 3.

I loved the film we ended up with and i hope they won't need to reboot for a long time, i also hope that they eventually use Ultimates 2 for ideas in an Avengers movie, but if they ever reboot Avengers they should make it The Ultimates.

 

[Iceman]

Rebooting superhero films is different to rebooting classic films as with a superhero you are really just rebooting the property rather than retelling a definitive story. So your reboot need be nothing like and have little in common with the original film.

 

[Octoberist]

It would hard to reboot the Avengers. I think you can refined it, but does it make it 'better'? What is 'faithful' when it comes to adaptations?

 

[CConn]

But I also think that movies that look dated could be looked upon as time capsules. And if the movie is good enough, you'll pass the dated visual effects, etc. That applies to the original Star Wars or whatever. People still love Wizard of Oz because it was groundbreaking. Dated sure, but it's a wonderful movie still to this day.

That's actually the exact point I was trying to make by bringing up Dr. No; movies like that are very much time capsules for the eras in which they were made.

And add to that, with remakes, the ratio of good ones is slight compared to the bad ones. Modern Hollywood can be misguided, and hire a cheap hack to capitalize on a familiar title. Unless you have a talented director who PROACTIVELY wants to do a reboot/remake, like the Coen Bros. or Nolan. And that's fine.

That's neither here nor there for this thread. Obviously, there's a lot of bad remakes. There's a lot of bad original movies as well.

This thread is more about if we were the Nolan or Coens of the world, what would we like to tackle. So it being a intelligent and quality production is kind of automatically inferred.

 

[Octoberist]

Well if I was Nolan or the Coen bros, then I would remake West World!