🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[MagnarTheGreat]

Kyiv Post - If We Appease Putin Ukraine Will Be Destroyed, Says Reznikov in Farewell Op-Ed
Reznikov, Ukraine's outgoing Defense Minister, welcomed Umerov to the post while warning Western allies that appeasing Putin today would be no more effective than appeasing Hitler in 1938.

 

[squeekness]

Kyiv Post - If We Appease Putin Ukraine Will Be Destroyed, Says Reznikov in Farewell Op-Ed
Reznikov, Ukraine's outgoing Defense Minister, welcomed Umerov to the post while warning Western allies that appeasing Putin today would be no more effective than appeasing Hitler in 1938.

Exactly. More Republicans need to acknowledge this.

 

[:eek:]

Russia launches fourth drone attack in five days on Ukrainian food exports | Ukraine | The Guardian

 

[:eek:]

Putin would not be arrested in 2024 Brazil G20 meeting, Lula says | Reuters

 

[squeekness]

He should be, if he was even invited to go.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Newsweek - Russian General Admits Ukraine Just a 'Stepping Stone' to Invade Europe
"I think there's still plenty of time to spend. It is pointless to talk about a specified period. If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer," the general said. "Ukraine is only a stepping stone?" the interviewer then asked. "Yes, absolutely. It is only the beginning," Mordvichev responded, who went on to say that the war "will not stop here."

This week, Putin promoted Lieutenant General Andrey Mordvichev to the rank of Colonel-General. The military leader had already been serving in the role of commanding the Central Military District and Russian Central Grouping of Forces in Ukraine.

Physical warfare isn't the any way Putin's Russia can conquer other countries. Installing pro-Putin politicians goes a long way. Which happened in Ukraine under Viktor Yanukovych, Donald Trump in the United States, and various coups happening on the continent of Africa right now, among many others.

 

[squeekness]

I can't see Russia having enough military left after Ukraine to go after anyone else.

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine offensive could have only 30 days left - US Army chief
Ukraine offensive could have only 30 days left - US Army chief

(before weather gets in the way)

 

[Iceman]

Newsweek - Russian General Admits Ukraine Just a 'Stepping Stone' to Invade Europe
"I think there's still plenty of time to spend. It is pointless to talk about a specified period. If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer," the general said. "Ukraine is only a stepping stone?" the interviewer then asked. "Yes, absolutely. It is only the beginning," Mordvichev responded, who went on to say that the war "will not stop here."


Physical warfare isn't the any way Putin's Russia can conquer other countries. Installing pro-Putin politicians goes a long way. Which happened in Ukraine under Viktor Yanukovych, Donald Trump in the United States, and various coups happening on the continent of Africa right now, among many others.

Hopefully this took away a lot of resources and got many other countries very wary of the future and more ready to act. Poland in particular seems to be going hardcore on military defence spending since.

 

[squeekness]

Ukraine offensive could have only 30 days left - US Army chief
Ukraine offensive could have only 30 days left - US Army chief

(before weather gets in the way)

Hope they get a lot done in that time.

 

[Iceman]

Russia hails unexpected G20 'milestone' as Ukraine fumes

Well this isn’t a good sign.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Why would Putin's Russia condemn itself?

For the second year in a row, there was no official G20 "family photo". No reason was given but reports say many leaders refused to be photographed, pointing to Russia's presence at the summit.

Very few had expected a joint declaration at this year's G20 - not least on the first day of the summit. The group is deeply divided over last year's invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Neither Russia's Vladimir Putin nor China's Xi Jinping turned up in Delhi, sending lower-level delegations instead.

So there was surprise when, just hours after the summit started, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced consensus had been reached on how to phrase the Ukraine section of the statement, which saw last year's direct criticism of Russia watered down.

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/g20-communique-condemn-russia-invasion (2022)

BALI, Indonesia — The G20 group of world powers agreed to a joint communiqué at the close of their summit in Indonesia this week that states that "most members strongly condemned the war in Ukraine," but "there were other views" as well.

The G20 includes the U.S. and its allies in Europe and Asia who have condemned and sanctioned Russia, as well as countries like China, India, Saudi Arabia and South Africa that have been reluctant to do so. Russia itself is also a member.

 

[squeekness]

Russia hails unexpected G20 'milestone' as Ukraine fumes

Well this isn’t a good sign.

No it is not.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

CBS News - Gen. Mark Milley on seeing through the fog of war in Ukraine
No other American has been more deeply involved in the war in Ukraine than General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. At 6:45 in the morning, he was about to have a call with Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, commander of Ukraine's armed forces. "I talk to him every week, sometimes twice a week, three times a week," Milley said. Three hours later, he took "Sunday Morning" underground, deep in the bowels of the Pentagon, into a top-secret command center where all the intelligence collected from the battlefields of Ukraine is monitored by his staff, who inform him on a day-to-day basis what's happening in the current operations. Milley said, "The fog and friction of war is always present, but our information systems are pretty good."

 

[squeekness]

I just want the war to be over with Ukraine the Victor.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Kremlin makes hints of Putin’s “victory” in presidential election
"Assuming that the president does run for office, it's clear that no one in our country can really compete with him at this point."

Because they jail and/or kill would-be viable challengers and manipulate the process. Mercenary Warlord Prigozhin could have been a viable candidate in a Russia with free and fair elections, which they do not have.

Bloomberg News - [Brazil President] Lula Backs Off Pledge Putin Won’t Be Arrested If He Visits

• Brazilian leader says arrest decision up to judiciary
• Putin faces war-crimes warrant from international court

South Korea pledges $2.3 billion in aid for Ukraine

Guard At One Of Putin's Palaces Flees To Ecuador, Criticizes War And Kremlin Leader

Reuters - Ukraine retakes offshore drilling platforms near Crimea - military intelligence

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Reuters - Exclusive: Ukraine could get long-range missiles armed with US cluster bombs - officials

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

CNBC - Russia’s Putin praises Elon Musk as an ‘outstanding person’ and ‘talented businessman’
Putin's comments come after Musk said last week that he refused an emergency request by Ukraine to extend coverage of Starlink satellites to the Crimea.

 

[squeekness]

Putin's ally now.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Business Insider - Ukraine reports a surge in Russians offering to defect after a helicopter pilot switched sides and took his chopper with him

• More Russian soldiers are offering to defect via a surrender hotline, a Ukrainian official said.
• The rise in calls comes after a Russian helicopter pilot publicly defected to Ukraine last month.
• The official said the number of Russian appeals to defect jumped by about 70 percent daily.

 

[squeekness]

Business Insider - Ukraine reports a surge in Russians offering to defect after a helicopter pilot switched sides and took his chopper with him

• More Russian soldiers are offering to defect via a surrender hotline, a Ukrainian official said.
• The rise in calls comes after a Russian helicopter pilot publicly defected to Ukraine last month.
• The official said the number of Russian appeals to defect jumped by about 70 percent daily.

Nice.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Coming from the guy that has dissenters poisoned or thrown out of windows:

 

[squeekness]

Because Putin is a shining example of Democracy.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[squeekness]

Works for me!