18yr Old wants to sue parents to pay for her college...

[Spider-Fan83]

they should court-sue her for all the 100's of thousands of dollars they spent raising, feeding, clothing,... her

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

they should court-sue her for all the 100's of thousands of dollars they spent raising, feeding, clothing,... her

Except halfway through highschool they stopped raising her and cut her off.

And hundreds of thousands? From parents that cheap-out on even paying for her education? Somehow I doubt that much was invested.

Crappy parents beget crappy daughter. The only problem is people are glossing over the "crappy parents" part.

 

[Quasimod0]

Except halfway through highschool they stopped raising her and cut her off.

And hundreds of thousands? From parents that cheap-out on even paying for her education? Somehow I doubt that much was invested.

Crappy parents beget crappy daughter. The only problem is people are glossing over the "crappy parents" part.

Apparently she moved out on her own accord because she didn't want to live under her parents rules. And it says she was 18 when she moved out. That isnt half way through high school. She was almost done. If you want your parents' money, then you should be able to follow their rules.

 

[Evelisse]

It's true they may be failures at parenting by some peoples standards, but clearly many 18yr olds with "Crappy Parents" have found a way to make it, and thrive on their own.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Except halfway through highschool they stopped raising her and cut her off.

And hundreds of thousands? From parents that cheap-out on even paying for her education? Somehow I doubt that much was invested.

Crappy parents beget crappy daughter. The only problem is people are glossing over the "crappy parents" part.

http://www.ksfy.com/story/23138400/average-cost-to-raise-a-kid-241080

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Apparently she moved out on her own accord because she didn't want to live under her parents rules. And it says she was 18 when she moved out. That isnt half way through high school. She was almost done. If you want your parents' money, then you should be able to follow their rules.

You should read the article. I was referring to the fact they refuse to pay $6,000 in outstanding highschool fees. And her parents' rules were pretty authoritarian from the sounds of it, demanding she breaks up with her boyfriend and doesn't date even though she's 18.

I'm not excusing her behavior so much as I'm also criticizing the parents for being obviously crappy parents.

 

[PemLam]

A few points:
I do think the parents should pay the outstanding school bill; not because this spoiled brat deserves it, but because they have a contractual obligation.

- Of course the spoiled brat was suspended because of truancy and a previous alcohol involved incident (as was the boyfriend the parents don't care for) according to the article, so I'd probably be unhappy about paying the bill as well.

The parents (specifically the dad) have stated they did not take away the college fund and that it still remains for her use. That, in addition to the $20,000 scholarship she received to U of Vermont, is all she should be "entitled" to.

The spoiled brat has stated in her court papers that she is "entitled" to over $600 per week in child care. Seriously? I have two daughters (one a teenager) and they don't go through $600 A MONTH for food, entertainment, etc.....COMBINED.

Final thought: As a parent, if my child is living under my roof then I have every right to express my opinion and establish rules, to include my feelings on who she dates, who she is friends with, etc. If I feel the person my daughter is dating is a negative influence, I'm going to say that and if necessary, give ultimatums. If she doesn't like it, she can, like this spoiled brat, choose another way. That will come with consequences...something this little entitled moron didn't take into consideration.

 

[PemLam]

Ok, maybe this is my final thought....
There was an article a couple weeks ago about a boy that received no jail time for killing some people while drunk driving. His defense was "affluenza". (Look it up.) The disgust for this boy and his parents was nearly universal for raising such an entitled little twit. Now we have a set a parents who are refusing to coddle their little princess and a bunch of people in this thread are saying they are crappy parents and their rules are authoritarian. (Not trying to single you out JJJ, please don't take offense...it just seems you and I are a little more vocal on this matter than others.) At what point do you draw the line?

 

[Feenix]

Am I the only one on the daughter's side? How exactly can an 18 year old be expected to cover the tuition costs of 4 years at college? Student loans wouldn't cover that, and even if they did she would be in debt for life. If my parents cut me off at 18, I would have been lost. The parents are kind of *****, to be honest. Expecting your parents to help you through college is not being "entitled". She's 18, not 30.

I'm with you on this. Baby boomers had it easy. Our generation (and future ones) have it rough and will have it rough. Very rough. The average debt for Canadians right now is $30,000 (student loans). Given that your first job out of college probably won't pay you more than $45,000 right off the bat (if you're lucky), you're going to be in debt a very long time. Say goodbye to owning a home, going on vacation, buying a new car, etc. The life of a college kid after college is debt repayment and paying rent.

I think baby boomers have this idea that if they "made" it, so can their kids. They don't understand that the times change. My parents, for instance, made a ton of profit off of every house they sold. It kept carrying over and they've been able to afford some pretty sweet things. The housing market now is pretty stagnant and expensive. All of my friends who "own" a home were able to buy it because their parents either co-signed or put up the down payment. The friends who don't own homes have to rent because their parents aren't wealthy enough to fork over $20,000+ for a down payment.

Baby boomers (so this girl's parents) also don't understand that if it wasn't for their parents (our grandparents) working their tails off day in and day out so their kids can have a better life, they wouldn't have the cushy lives they do now. Baby boomers should do for their kids what their parents did for them.

 

[Thundercrack85]

In fear of sounding like some socialist revolutionary, the system is fundamentally broken. A diploma from a run in the mill state university now costs as much as the Ivy League colleges did when I was born.

Now from first grade, they're telling you you're going to college. What they don't tell you is that prices have gone up more than 500%, and are still climbing.

How are people supposed to pay for this?

The baby boomers got theirs, and now they're robbing us blind.

 

[Marvolo]

Am I the only one on the daughter's side? How exactly can an 18 year old be expected to cover the tuition costs of 4 years at college? Student loans wouldn't cover that, and even if they did she would be in debt for life. If my parents cut me off at 18, I would have been lost. The parents are kind of *****, to be honest. Expecting your parents to help you through college is not being "entitled". She's 18, not 30.

Everyone I know paid their way through college with hard work student loans and by busting their ass. Not every parent can afford the ridiculous tuition. We cant all be fortunate and have college laid at our feet.

And see Thundercrack's post above.

 

[X-Ray]

her parents shouldn't be forced to pay for your college tuition.

her private high school tuition. screw that, enroll in a public school.

$600 a month? Uh, hell no. Go get a job.

her parents offered her a way to move back home. she just has to meet 3 guidelines to start:

- no more disrespecting her mother. nothing wrong with that.

- ditch her boyfriend. okay, that's a little much.

- attend counseling. that's fair. she seems a bit out of control and has a eating disorder that needs to be addressed.

 

[PemLam]

her parents shouldn't be forced to pay for your college tuition.

her private high school tuition. screw that, enroll in a public school.

$600 a month? Uh, hell no. Go get a job.

her parents offered her a way to move back home. she just has to meet 3 guidelines to start:

- no more disrespecting her mother. nothing wrong with that.

- ditch her boyfriend. okay, that's a little much.

- attend counseling. that's fair. she seems a bit out of control and has a eating disorder that needs to be addressed.

Actually she said she's "entitled to $654 per week" . Not $600 per month.

 

[Feenix]

Everyone I know paid their way through college with hard work student loans and by busting their ass. Not every parent can afford the ridiculous tuition. We cant all be fortunate and have college laid at our feet.

And see Thundercrack's post above.

That's a simplistic way of looking at it. And you said the magic words student loans. If your parents make too much money, you don't qualify for one. If they don't co-sign for you, you don't qualify for one.

And you have to pay it back. I don't know about you, but $30,000 (at the least) would be hard to pay off in a few years without a ridiculously well-paying job. And it's not as easy to say "just work during school." It's not that easy and for the most part, it's pretty hard to do well in school and make enough money to pay for it.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Everyone I know paid their way through college with hard work student loans and by busting their ass. Not every parent can afford the ridiculous tuition. We cant all be fortunate and have college laid at our feet.

And see Thundercrack's post above.

Wait... parents who have worked and saved money all their lives can't be expected to pay for college, but an 18 year old kid who has only ever worked part-time minimum wage jobs (if that) should? Bwuh...?

 

[Greeneyes]

Why doesn't the girl simply pay some cheap assassin to kill her parents, then she will get all their money and house etc.

Job done.


Or maybe she can just get a dead end job and watch her life fade slowly away like teardrops in the rain.

I'm wasted on this site...

 

[The Guard]

Apparently she lost the first round of court battles.

I think baby boomers have this idea that if they "made" it, so can their kids. They don't understand that the times change. My parents, for instance, made a ton of profit off of every house they sold. It kept carrying over and they've been able to afford some pretty sweet things. The housing market now is pretty stagnant and expensive. All of my friends who "own" a home were able to buy it because their parents either co-signed or put up the down payment. The friends who don't own homes have to rent because their parents aren't wealthy enough to fork over $20,000+ for a down payment.

This.

Near as I can tell, based on conversations and research, compared to previous generations, there are more things to pay for in general, and they tend to cost more now, relatively speaking. And there's more competition for decent jobs.

It really irks me when I see someone from the previous generation looking down on someone's accomplishments/position in society/financially nowadays.

 

[Teelie]

A lot of the problems the current generation(s) have stem from the Baby Boomers and from the economic situation that has come with them. Plus the world has changed. Like you said, things cost more now than they used to, even when adjusting for inflation.

But the older generations look down and judge us because it wasn't that hard for them.

 

[PemLam]

No, this isn't the fault of some spoiled little girl, it's obviously the fault of an entire generation of people that have no idea how hard it is for kids nowadays to make it in the world because everyone knows life was just perfect back then.

Lord knows the economy was wonderful back then, no sky-high inflation, no high interest rates, high-paying jobs for everyone that every wanted one, sun always shining, birds singing......

This spoiled little ***** doesn't like the rules so she takes her toys and runs away. Only after leaving does she realize, "oh ****, it's hard out here" and then decides it's easier to sue mom and dad for what she thinks she's "entitled" to. She shows absolutely no respect for them, accuses them of things it was investigated and determined they didn't do, bad mouths them and now expects them to continue to foot the bill for her. Screw her, she deserves NOTHING more from them.

What's worse is people in here defending her and acting as though the parents are the evil ones for not wanting to continue throwing money at her. Unbelievable.

Edit *Actually shouldn't have said "unbelievable" because unfortunately it's all too believable today.

 

[The Endless]

It is much harder today. I remember my parents bought their house for around £70000 back in the 80s. They sold it for £280000 8 years ago. This is just an example of how much more everything costs right now from my personal experience. Most people my age can't afford to raise a deposit for a mortgage and have to rent, which is effectively throwing money away. It's pretty much impossible to save up 30 or 40 grand for a deposit without some kind of help.

That said, if she was more respectful i'm sure as her parents, they would help her out. It also doesn't help that she's obviously been spoilt rotten all her life and knows no better.

 

[Anubis]

You know, if she has no money coming in for herself and is emancipated, she should qualify for Financial Aid.....you know, that thing where the government covers your schooling and you don't have to pay it back.

 

[Feenix]

No, this isn't the fault of some spoiled little girl, it's obviously the fault of an entire generation of people that have no idea how hard it is for kids nowadays to make it in the world because everyone knows life was just perfect back then.

Lord knows the economy was wonderful back then, no sky-high inflation, no high interest rates, high-paying jobs for everyone that every wanted one, sun always shining, birds singing......

This spoiled little ***** doesn't like the rules so she takes her toys and runs away. Only after leaving does she realize, "oh ****, it's hard out here" and then decides it's easier to sue mom and dad for what she thinks she's "entitled" to. She shows absolutely no respect for them, accuses them of things it was investigated and determined they didn't do, bad mouths them and now expects them to continue to foot the bill for her. Screw her, she deserves NOTHING more from them.

What's worse is people in here defending her and acting as though the parents are the evil ones for not wanting to continue throwing money at her. Unbelievable.

Edit *Actually shouldn't have said "unbelievable" because unfortunately it's all too believable today.

If your kid is a spoiled brat, its because you raised them to be that way.

These parents created the monster and now they're trying to backtrack. Tough ****. Maybe they should have thought about being better parents. I come from an affluent neighborhood and while a lot of kids here are brats, a lot aren't, because their parents knew the value of a dollar and raised their kids to know the same.

 

[PemLam]

If your kid is a spoiled brat, its because you raised them to be that way.

These parents created the monster and now they're trying to backtrack. Tough ****. Maybe they should have thought about being better parents. I come from an affluent neighborhood and while a lot of kids here are brats, a lot aren't, because their parents knew the value of a dollar and raised their kids to know the same.

How are these bad parents? They provided for their kids, obviously spent time with them (based on the photos and stories told by all the parties of the trial), had established rules (chores, curfews, showing respect, etc.). Because this girl didn't want to follow those rules anymore, she leaves. After that she realizes how good she had it and wants the gravy train to keep going. Something the parents say no to.

But I guess you want them to have to keep footing the bill, thus perpetuating this girls attitude. Nice. That's the way to teach 'em.

 

[Teelie]

You sound exactly like the parents who can't accept that their era is no longer our era. The world does not work the way it used to but go on believing otherwise. No one is saying as you assert, that her parents should keep footing the bill but then you also can't wrap your head around the fact that the cost of living has skyrocketed whereas the money earned has plummeted.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

Wait... parents who have worked and saved money all their lives can't be expected to pay for college, but an 18 year old kid who has only ever worked part-time minimum wage jobs (if that) should? Bwuh...?

Why should parents who have worked and saved all their lives be expected to pay for their ungrateful brat to go to college?

Not to mention she's been badmouthing her parents claiming her dad is "inappropriate" with her, and other accusations.

Many 18 year olds have paid their way through college, it's not easy, but it can be done. Or you have the option of not going to college and getting a job. This lazy, spoiled brat doesn't want to either of those options.