2005-2006 NBA thread

[CameraObscura]

I'm to sure how you can say the Phoenix is overrated.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm to sure how you can say the Phoenix is overrated.

Because it's perfectly obvious that when you slow down the pace they're practically a useless team.

They're very overrated much like the Spurs. The Suns haven't faced a team that will grind it out for 48 minutes. Now, in all honesty, the Lakers showed in Games 2, 3, and 4 that if you slow down the pace, control the boards, and play a set offense/set defense the Suns will lose easily.

The problem is stopping them from running. All the Suns are is just a run and gun team. That's all they are. Make them play defense or a set offense and they'll buckle down worse than KG in crunch time.

 

[Go Web Go!]

How can the Spurs be overrated? They've won 3 championships since '99.

 

[Mister J]

Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.

Overrated because if certain teams learn to clog the paint or defend the paint the Spurs would be useless.

I remember watching them(the Spurs) play against the Lakers(When they had Karl Malone and Shaq). Everytime Parker or Manu tried driving into the pain, Shaq or Malone would put them on their asses.

The end result forced the Spurs to become jump shooters and that's how they lost the series.

So yes I say they're overrated as most of their offensive power is created from penetration.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.

99 was their year

2000-2002 was the Lakers.

Spurs won the championship in 2003.

Got knocked out by the Lakers in 2004 and Detroit won the championship.

Won it in 2005.

Got knocked out by Dallas this year.

I know their 3 rings outweigh Dallas having 0, however, one has to be able to defend their championships and that's what made teams like Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and Los Angeles so much better than them because they defended their title.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well I can understand what LastSunrise is saying, but if I agree with him. Then I have to say that the entire NBA is overratted. All teams are, period. That's if I agree with him.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

99 was their year

2000-2002 was the Lakers.

Spurs won the championship in 2003.

Got knocked out by the Lakers in 2004 and Detroit won the championship.

Won it in 2005.

Got knocked out by Dallas this year.

I know their 3 rings outweigh Dallas having 0, however, one has to be able to defend their championships and that's what made teams like Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and Los Angeles so much better than them because they defended their title.

Whoa, don't forget you are also talking about one of the greatest decades of the NBA, the 80's. Not to mention you are throwing in Jordan's bulls, come on. You can't compare any of those teams to teams today, it's just not the same game. Yes the Lakers were the last team to repeat, but also look at who they had. Shaq in his prime was/is an unstoppable force, period, against anyone, any era, period.

These days basketball teams don't play ball like they used to. It's really not the same comparing two different eras of basketball.

 

[Mister J]

Sunrise, that doesn't make a lot of sense. You're saying if teams could clog/defnd the paint, the Spurs would be useless. It can't be that simple or else teams would do it. Doesn't the fact that the Spurs have those 3 rings in 8 years say something about how proficient they are at what they do and how difficult it is to defend? If it was such a quick fix, San Antonio wouldn't be an elite team and a title contender year in and year out.

You can make the argument that they aren't one of the premiere dynasties in League history, but that's a long way from being overrated. If the Spurs are overrated, you must not have much regard for the rest of the League. It took all Dallas had to top the Spurs this year and the Mavs still have a LONG way to go before they can be as 'overrated' as San Antonio.

You may not like the Spurs, but I don't see how you can't respect what they've done.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

So will today be the last time we see the Pistons???????




I think so.

 

[samurai black]

So will today be the last time we see the Pistons???????
I think so.

I think that detroit has too much pride to be eliminated on their own court, so it will last one more game and then they're gone.

 

[Mister J]

Yes, Detroit is a proud team and rightfully so. However, I don't think pride is going to have anything to do with it. They've been proud since the season started. It's not as if they lack self-confidence or the ability to get it done. San Antonio is a proud team too and it didn't stop Dallas from lowering the boom on them in Game 7 @ the AT&T Center. They just got outplayed.

As clichéd as it sounds, it's going to come down to execution. Detroit is going to have to man up and find someway to keep Wade and Shaq from doing whatever the hell they want. At the same time, they can't pay too much attention to those guys as to let Walker, Haslem, Posey and the others have a field day with open looks. They've got to be more proficient on the offensive end too. Perhaps most importantly, they need to stop their internal *****ing and the whining about the referees.

The Pistons are capable of getting the W tonight. If it goes down that way, it'll be because they managed to play like they did in the regular season, not because of a desire to not get eliminated at the Palace. Miami knows what type of fire is coming tonight. They're not going to get beat by pride.

 

[samurai black]

As clichéd as it sounds, it's going to come down to execution. Detroit is going to have to man up and find someway to keep Wade and Shaq from doing whatever the hell they want. At the same time, they can't pay too much attention to those guys as to let Walker, Haslem, Posey and the others have a field day with open looks. They've got to be more proficient on the offensive end too. Perhaps most importantly, they need to stop their internal *****ing and the whining about the referees.

The Pistons are capable of getting the W tonight. If it goes down that way, it'll be because they managed to play like they did in the regular season, not because of a desire to not get eliminated at the Palace. Miami knows what type of fire is coming tonight. They're not going to get beat by pride.

The Heat are clearly the better team talent wise, but if they have a habit of letting teams back in by playing soft on the road. I think Detroit internal breakdown will be better with the confidence of playing at home. I'm with the Heat all the way, but just alittle nervous about tonights game.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I think that detroit has too much pride to be eliminated on their own court, so it will last one more game and then they're gone.

? Too much pride to be eliminated? Where was that pride when the Cavs came back from being down 3-1?

If Saunders makes the right adjusments they win, if not they lose.

 

[Assassin]

no nba team in the final 4 are over-rated, thats impossible..they made it to the finals on each side.

btw, i know lots of detroiters hang out here, click the link in my profile for more info

 

[Go Web Go!]

The Heat are clearly the better team talent wise, but if they have a habit of letting teams back in by playing soft on the road.

With the exception of their first 2 roadies in Chicago they've done a fine job on the road. They closed the Bulls series out on the road, won 2 straight in NJ, and won the opener in Detroit. Tonight's game could go either way, but I would think Miami (especially Shaq & Wade) would want to close it out on Detriot's court and get some payback after last years game 7.

 

[Jplaya2023]

pistons in 7

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

 

[Ghostvirus]

Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

Wow you got quite magic trick going there! You conveniently dissappeared after Miami went up 3-1. Now Bamf! you are back again. Wow!

 

[Go Web Go!]

Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

I believe it was someone on your beloved Pistons that once said "Even the sun shines on a dogs ass."

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Wow you got quite magic trick going there! You conveniently dissappeared after Miami went up 3-1. Now Bamf! you are back again. Wow!

Hey! You apparently dont know what you're talking about!!! Go back and check this thread for the prior 2 games, and I was on here giving the Heat credit and saying how poor the Pistons had looked, so dont even throw that "fair weather" crap around........ It's ok, I'll wait here while you look, and wait for the apology....

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I believe it was someone on your beloved Pistons that once said "Even the sun shines on a dogs ass."

And I believe it was George Michen who talked about "losing with dignity." I was here after each of the last two games saying that the Heat were the better team those nights, at least give me the same courtesy, hell you're stilll up 3 games to 2....

 

[Go Web Go!]

And I believe it was George Michen who talked about "losing with dignity." I was here after each of the last two games saying that the Heat were the better team those nights, at least give me the same courtesy, hell you're stilll up 3 games to 2....

Relax. We're still friends. Miami just wasn't going to win tonight going 6-20 at the FT line. They didn't hit some of their open looks and again had problems holding on to the ball. Tayshaun had a good game, but the rest of the Pistons need to pick it up. In the end they still picked up the win, but Miami still shot a better percentage as bad as they played.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I never said you were fair weather. I think you need to look up the definition of that. It does seem that when it looked like your team was through you turned tail, & ran. Now you are back talking smack again. I am guessing that if they lose on Friday you will not be seen talking about basketball until...uhmm... I don't know... October maybe.

 

[Ghostvirus]

On a side note - If the Heast stay the way they are, & the Pistons stay the same. We could be looking at one heck of a rivarly for a while.