2005-2006 NBA thread

Of the Remaining teams, who will win the NBA TITLE?

  • Mavericks

  • Lakers

  • Clippers

  • Spurs

  • Pistons

  • Heat

  • Nets

  • Cavs

  • Wizards

  • Kings

  • Suns


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Look for avery to tweak his starting lineup this series.

I'll think he'll go back to dampier and adrian griffin starting over diop and harris, because harris cant guard wade and if they switched howard on wade walker would have an advantage in the post. Plus you bring harris in with stack to go against payton and wade in the first quarter. I think riley should start posey at the 3 and walker at the 4, because as much as haslem cant guard dirk nor walker, Twione can use his speed to go by dirk on the perimeter unless avery makes dik guard posey which would be a nice adjustment on his part.

Heat 5
Shaq
Haslem
Walker
Wade
Williams

With zo, payton, posey, and some dereck anderson off the bench in spot minutes to maybe guard stack because they match up well physically.

Dallas 5
Dampier
Dirk
Howard
Griffin
Jet

With harris, stack, van horn, diop, and some marquis daniels off the bench just to go bigger against the shorter heat guards.

I think miami should utilize alot of pick & rolls on whomever dirk is guarding with wade, because if they switch, wade has an advantage on dirk, and if they double wade haslem can hit that mid range jumper or walker can drive and dish to shaq or a posey in the corner for his 3.
 
Jplaya2023 said:
Look for avery to tweak his starting lineup this series.

Ya think.

Jplaya2023 said:
I'll think he'll go back to dampier and adrian griffin starting over diop and harris, because harris cant guard wade and if they switched howard on wade walker would have an advantage in the post. Plus you bring harris in with stack to go against payton and wade in the first quarter. I think riley should start posey at the 3 and walker at the 4, because as much as haslem cant guard dirk nor walker, Twione can use his speed to go by dirk on the perimeter unless avery makes dik guard posey which would be a nice adjustment on his part.

Devin Harris was the key to running San Antonio off the court. Harris is the key to The Mavrick up tempo game.
 
This is going to be an interesting series. Heat in 6. Wade will be the MVP.
 
ScottyBBadd said:
Ya think.



Devin Harris was the key to running San Antonio off the court. Harris is the key to The Mavrick up tempo game.

Harris cant guard anyone on the heat, its about matchups. Harris not terry can guard wade, and if they switch howard on wade harris nor terry can guard twione walker. Harris will shyt on payton when he checks in thats why u bring him and stack off the bench.
 
danielisthor said:
This is going to be an interesting series. Heat in 6. Wade will be the MVP.

I say Dallas in 5 or 6 games. Either way it'll be a very interesting series and it's nice to see some new faces in the championship.
 
I haven't had access to a computer since Thursday, so pardon my tardiness:

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Ah. How sweet it is. :up: :)
 
Tangled Web said:
Miaimi in 6
With Shaq as the MVP.

Won't happen. Dallas has too much depth, foot speed, and athleticism to lose to the Heat in the Finals.

I say Dallas in 5-6. If Miami does in fact win then I'll be surprised and will be disappointed, however, it'll further cement that Kobe can't and couldn't do it without Shaq.

I swear, Kobe must've thrown his remote at the TV when Shaq made it.

Shaq is a problem for anyone, Wade can be contained, and the other guys are good roleplayers, but they're not as consistent or as dangerous as the media/experts make them out to be either.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
Won't happen. Dallas has too much depth, foot speed, and athleticism to lose to the Heat in the Finals.

Shaq is a problem for anyone, Wade can be contained, and the other guys are good roleplayers, but they're not as consistent or as dangerous as the media/experts make them out to be either.

Heat in 5 over NJ wasn't supposed to happen. Heat in 6 over Detroit wasn't supposed to happen. It happened. The NBA isn't what it usually is - predictable - this postseason. Neither team is a fill-in to win it all. It can go either way.

"Wade can be contained" - are you sure? The Pistons arguably were the best defensive squad in the NBA this season (2 players on the all-defense team) and look what he did to them.

''and the other guys are good roleplayers, but they're not as consistent or as dangerous as the media/experts make them out to be either" - I haven't seen ONE 'expert' use the word "consistent" or "dangerous" to describe the roleplayers in this years Miami team with the exception of Zo. :confused:
 
the amount of depht dallas has is disgusting they can go 3-4 at almost every position

center - diop, dampier, mbenga, van horn, dirk
power foward - dirk, van horn, dio[
small foward - howard, dirk, van horn, stack, daniels
shooting guard - howard, jet, harris, stack, daniels, armstrong
point guard - terry, harris, stack, howard, daniels, armstrong
 
Go Web Go! said:
Heat in 5 over NJ wasn't supposed to happen. Heat in 6 over Detroit wasn't supposed to happen. It happened. The NBA isn't what it usually is - predictable - this postseason. Neither team is a fill-in to win it all. It can go either way.

"Wade can be contained" - are you sure? The Pistons arguably were the best defensive squad in the NBA this season (2 players on the all-defense team) and look what he did to them.

''and the other guys are good roleplayers, but they're not as consistent or as dangerous as the media/experts make them out to be either" - I haven't seen ONE 'expert' use the word "consistent" or "dangerous" to describe the roleplayers in this years Miami team with the exception of Zo. :confused:

New Jersey stood no chance against the Heat, you know that, and I know that.

Detroit just got completely and utterly arrogant that it was disgusting. They went in with the mindset that due to their regular season success, everyone was supposed to be afraid of them.

Simply put, Detroit ran into a Cavs team that took them to the limit, but they still carried that same swagger/arrogance with them against the Heat and it cost them dearly.

Wade can be contained if defenders clog the middle and play him for the paint or baseline, if they learn and memorize those patterns Wade can easily be dismantled. Defenders are just going to have to be prepared to run with him.

It'll be an interesting series to say the least, but I still say the Mavs in 5 or 6 games.

I'd prefer a sweep obviously, although even I know that will not happen at all.
 
Sunrise, your continued assertions about how some of the best teams and players in the NBA can be "easily" dismantled/contained/stopped are hilarious. If it were that easy to stop, don't you think it would be more common?

The only thing I've seen slow D. Wade down is the flu. So unless Mark Cuban is in the practice of germ warfare, Flash might not be dismantled as easily as you think.
 
Mister J said:
Sunrise, your continued assertions about how some of the best teams and players in the NBA can be "easily" dismantled/contained/stopped are hilarious. If it were that easy to stop, don't you think it would be more common?

The only thing I've seen slow D. Wade down is the flu. So unless Mark Cuban is in the practice of germ warfare, Flash might not be dismantled as easily as you think.

Watch any game where centers play him for the middle, and you'll see how effective he is. I'm not saying he isn't a talented player, I'm just simply stating a fact on what he's been shown in clips and so forth.

I'm not saying he hasn't elevated his game. All I'm saying is Wade, while he is a great player, can be contained to a slower pace than is normal. The only reason why you're saying this is because you love the Heat and hate the Mavs.

Don't worry though, they'll send you a copy of the trophy when Dallas wins the championship in 5-6 games. :)
 
'Easily dismantled' and contained to a slower pace than normal aren't even remotely similar. At the end of the day, which outcome are you predicting? I'm just astounded that the measures to stop Wade are so obvious, yet he continues to pretty much do what he wants on the court.

Where did you get the notion that I hate the Mavs? I questioned how disciplined they were and I owed up to that when they took out the Spurs. :confused:

I won't hold my breath waiting for that trophy.
 
This is great for the NBA. Detroit vs. San Antonio would've been a league-killer for anyone but hardcore basketball fans.
 
Kipobe said:
This is great for the NBA. Detroit vs. San Antonio would've been a league-killer for anyone but hardcore basketball fans.
Son of a ***** that would have sucked ass. :(
 
Kipobe said:
This is great for the NBA. Detroit vs. San Antonio would've been a league-killer for anyone but hardcore basketball fans.
Im pretty hardcore and I still think that matchup wouldve sucked major balls.:( :down
 
Go Web Go! said:
Heat in 5 over NJ wasn't supposed to happen. Heat in 6 over Detroit wasn't supposed to happen. It happened. The NBA isn't what it usually is - predictable - this postseason. Neither team is a fill-in to win it all. It can go either way.
Reminds me of the quote I read, "If the game went the way it's supposed to, why would anyone play?"

Best of luck to your Heat, G-Web :up:
 
Well I aint been on in a minute but let me drop some thoughts on the conference finals.
First up Detroit. Man, that **** was just unfourtunate and still I feel like Dertoit beat themselves. Those guys underestimated Cleveland (shoot I think we all did) the result was in a home court series Miami stole on there court and although they played well in other home games that's all Miami needed. But oddly in a time when everyone is blaming people in Detroit they need look at themselves. I was shocked that the Pistons didn play with that sense of urgency and blue collar work that defined themselves the past 4 years. It's one thing when your opposition flat out beats you, it's another thing when you dont play well yourself. Lotta people want to blame Flip for the team's misfortune. I feel bad for dude a little. When they were winning he got no credit for giving the team an offensive and letting them play more fluidly. However when the screw ups happen in the playoffs people want to put the blame on him and say Larry Brown was right (huh? right about what? As if LB defined himself in NY this year...please). But with that said there could have been some adjustments.
Notice that when they played the zone they won (game 2 and 5) and when they played man to man they got burned. They knew this, why did they change? Of course one on one Wade is gonna burn you that's why you play zone and have Tayshaun Prince gaurd the back. Prince already has stumped Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson and Kobe Bryant in the past playoffs and Lebron James in the 4th of game 7. Why not apply this consistently? Very very bizarre.
Now I'm hearing people talk about this is the end of the Pistons run. It's over. Really? It depends on the off season. Ben Wallace is a huge priorty. He played like **** in the last 2 rounds but he's still Ben Wallace and at 32 he's still one of the strongest and hardworking frontcourt players in the league. His relationship with flip is a concern but I dont know why these 2 cant work it out, I dunno if either has to go. I dont think the team needs a revamp but they do need to re-vamp there bench. One of the keys to there success in the playoffs in 2003-2006 was they had deep benches (Okur, Cliffy, Corliss, Lindsey etc) this year they played with essentially 7 man rotation with Lindsey and Dice coming off the bench and compared to the Heat they needed more punch than that. They also need a slasher who can come off the bench with the same impact as Lindsey and Dice. My guess is bring Mike James back to the Pistons, he would be a good pickup. Basically if they beef up the bench, re-sign Ben and use this season as a motivation like they used Game 7 last year there still a championship contender. They may in there 30's but it's not like there 35-37, they still got 4 years of playing ability in them. But they need to resurrect that Motown Blue Collar mentality for real. Pistons can still be proud: A Title, 2 Eastern Conference Titles, 4 straight ECF's apperance, having the best record in the east 3 out of the last 4 seasons and a franchise record 64 wins created by a bunch of mid-level castoffs is EXTRAORDINARY achievement. I dont why you fairwhether fans who only watch the highlights on sportscenter are hating they redefined the way the game is played in a superstar-first sports culture.

Now on to Phoenix. First of all I dont like white people in general (lol).....but bigs up and infinte props to Nasty Nash and PHX suns. I mean in the words of DJ Kay Slay DAMN! They came into this season with people saying they wouldnt even make the playoffs and they stuck it out. Boris Diaw, Raja Bell and Leandro Barbosa were straight beastin. And I gotta give props to Tim Thomas. Dude's taking a lotta flack in his careeer but he really manned up with Phoenix and that "Yayo/Cena" Hand waive after his 3's is classic. This team kept there resilency against the fake ass Lakers and the clippers was great. Steve Nash truly is the MVP he makes everyone around him better. Phoenix are gonna be a monster next year if Amare returns to full health. He beat up on the Mavs last year and I think he could do the same next year.
But they need to address there defensive issues. True, that sometimes the best defense is an offense but you can outrun teams for so long. Now I'm hearing that there's talk of trading Marion? Why? I hope not he's a staplepiece for the Suns for 7 years. I heard he wants to go somehwere he would get more regocnition. Well it does suck that he doesnt get as much pub as others on the team but yo Matrix keep doing and play the background bruh. You dont want that much attention. Dont Joe Johnson the situation. So like B Wallace with the Pistons I hope Shawn stays in the valley.
Props to the best defensive team and offensive team. I really wanted to see a Pistons-Suns final. It would have been fun, Phoenix is great to watch on the run but so is Detroit when they do defensive to offensive runs. Plus seeing Sheed and TT go back and forth hitting threes would have been classic. Both teams played excellent against a lotta adversity coming into the season so big them ups

Oh and more thing I'm hearing some of you dudes saying you wouldnt want a San Antonio and Detroit in the finals. Well in the words Gloria Carter's favourite son "Pardon me I had to laugh at that". Lets keep it for real, for real San Antonio and Detroit are still the 2 best teams in basketball in this current era even if there not in the finals there still the 2 best teams in the NBA and if your not a Mavs or Heat fan I know you would want some of there players on your squad. I mean Laker fans need to keep quiet, its bad enough you blew the 3-1 lead but the guy you let go looks like he's gonna win his 4th title without Kobe. Doesnt that ultimatley kill the Shaq-Kobe debate?

Now onto the finals. Well the matchups are close. Like my man J said Diop and Dampier provide big bodies to gaurd Shaq. But the question for the Heat is can they play defense? In the Detroit they didnt have to because the Pistons sadly were missing wide open shots. They are gonna have to gaurd the permiter against Dirk cause he dont play like Pastor Troy in GA.
Still unlike many I think Miami is more deep but the Mavs need to exploit, key lookout is to see if Josh Howard is gonna be healthy from that last series. Should be an interesting series.

Who do I want to win?


I want to see win? Well I dunno I want to see a Black Coach lift the NBA trophy :)
 
The Heat have this in 6 and they should have won last year if not for them playing hurt. I just think though the Heat will win in 6 because the play defense and Dallas just trys to out score you they can't play D. So I think the Mav's will have a problem when they can't stop Wade and Shaq and Walker. Now I will love to see Kobe's face after the Heat win and hear what Shaq has to say about the Lakers after all of this.
 
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