4 dead at shooting in Florida during John Madden tournament

I'm not quite sure that is what you should take from this.

A culture that revels in tormenting others and came up with a form of attempted murder (swatting) was bound to have an incident like this eventually. These various toxic cultures probably have claimed plenty in suicide. It was kind of inevitable that it would turn to something like this.
 
I wonder how the WH will spin this since it's a white guy, and not a brown person.
 
I'm not quite sure that is what you should take from this.

A culture that revels in tormenting others and came up with a form of attempted murder (swatting) was bound to have an incident like this eventually. These various toxic cultures probably have claimed plenty in suicide. It was kind of inevitable that it would turn to something like this.

It wasn't the most articulate description but I think it's valid. Just look at the sitting president and how he acts.
 
What a terrible tragedy.

Of course, nothing will be done about it because it's related to guns and the killer is a white male. If it were an illegal immigrant who used a knife, expect mass hysteria.
 
They'll use video games as a scapegoat until they think it's been long enough for them to pretend it never happened, they'll also send their usual "thoughts and prayers", a term which at this point is more vulgar to me than any curse word. It's infuriating how actually doing anything to try and prevent these shootings isn't something that even occurs to them.

Won't happen, it's been proven time and time again that games don't turn people violent. Besides, Madden is hardly the game to try and scapegoat video games.
 
Well, Trump's an idiot.
 
I really can't take this anymore. I'm so sick of hearing about these tragedies and the lives lost because of them.

But nothing is being done to prevent this. I hear my stupid family members saying, "well we can't take away guns! The second amendment is too important. Gun control won't help, and nothing can prevent these occurrences."

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
I'm supposed to go to comic con in October and I'm getting nervous about it. I have a hard time enjoying crowded events because of what has been going on. But I also can't live my life in fear I guess.
 
Are we talking about banning handguns now? Before it was assault rifles and bump stocks and tactical gear. Now some folks just want to ban hand guns?

Seriously. Is that a solution?

We live in a very sick society and people think the solution to people who want to kill is to ban handguns?
 
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I really can't take this anymore. I'm so sick of hearing about these tragedies and the lives lost because of them.

But nothing is being done to prevent this. I hear my stupid family members saying, "well we can't take away guns! The second amendment is too important. Gun control won't help, and nothing can prevent these occurrences."

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I really agree with you.

Did anyone else have issues logging in today in the afternoon?
 
Are we talking about banning handguns now? Before it was assault rifles and bump stocks and tactical gear. Now some folks just want to ban hand guns?

Seriously. Is that a solution?

We live in a very sick society and people think the solution to people who want to kill is to band a handgun?

I don't know, seems to have worked for Australia and the UK. And I would not underestimate the number of the next generation who would want a total ban on guns.
 
Yeah, no doubt the majority of people under 25 would vote today on a total gun ban. So all we have to do is wait until they and future generations become the majority and the problem of gun violence will be solved by banning them.
 
Are we talking about banning handguns now? Before it was assault rifles and bump stocks and tactical gear. Now some folks just want to ban hand guns?

Seriously. Is that a solution?

We live in a very sick society and people think the solution to people who want to kill is to ban handguns?

Some people you can't reason with. If it was a cop that had killed an unarmed Black person, they they would ignore the gun and be going after the cop, like they should.

Second amendment is part of our constitution. Either deal with it, or move to the UK or Australia. My family moved here back in the 1940's from Germany, and the main reason was our right to defend ourselves.
 
It's an amendment and can be changed.
 
Whatever one thinks about banning or not banning guns -- the background check systems seems to be broke in every state. There seems to be not one of these guys who didn't have mental health issues noted before they did their crime.
 

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