I am interpreting nothing wrong. You clearly don't know your Star Wars.
Clearly. -_- *Looks at the stack of EU books on the shelf next to me.*
Darth Zannah alone is reason enough to have a primary character who is a female sith/dark jedi. And if you are so afraid of having Rey be an "evil" character in the films, you're the one that doesn't understand the lore. They
need to explore the dark side in the films in a way that doesn't demonize it anyway. If they never do, they are making a huge mistake.
More to the point, like others, I have already seen through your ridiculous attempt and have seen it for what it is. Saying something like "don't women have emotions" while of course overlooking the obvious. Throughout Star Wars history there have been plenty of female villains, whether it is the old EU or official canon.
None of this makes any sense, "seen through my ridiculous attempt." What, like I'm trying to keep something a secret?
That they have shown it in the relevant canon while pitching another ridiculous reason for why the female can't be the hero.
Why on earth am I supposed to take your response seriously when your incomplete sentences make your point incomprehensible.
Number of problems here:
-Time-The EARLIEST that they could conceivably get away with doing this is halfway through Episode VIII (and even that's probably too early). So they'd most likely make it the "dark cliffhanger" of the film. And you'd need to have her do enough bad stuff/be "dark" long enough to justify even going that route at all (otherwise people will ask "what was the point? You didn't really do anything with it"). So you'd have one film, maybe one and a half, to turn her dark in a convincing way, have her do enough bad stuff to justify doing that at all, and then (because there's no way that she'd stay dark for good) bring her back to the light in a convincing way and have the audience accept it. And this is in addition to all of the other plot-lines/character arcs that'd also need development and resolution. Cutting it kind of close there.
-We're already doing the "conflicted villain torn between the dark and the light" with Kylo, so no need for another one.
-From a PR standpoint, it makes little sense to take the first female main lead (Luke was the main lead of the OT, not Leia) and the first female potential Jedi protagonist that we've ever gotten in these films, who's already a role model for lots of women/girls (which LF seems keen on anyway) and then going "psych' we're actually turning her dark" would just be shooting themselves in the foot for no good reason. Especially if it then becomes "we'll she needs a man to save her from her own inner psycho," which also plays into all kinds of really problematic clichés/gender stereotypes. And if that man is the psychotic mass-murdering, patricidal, torturer who also kidnapped, tortured, and abused her specifically before, then that'd REALLY be a dumb move on the writer's parts.
-It'd make Luke look like the most incompetent Jedi teacher ever. So he cannot prevent even ONE student from either going dark or getting killed horribly, geesh. Yoda would probably be facepalming from the netherworld if that happened.
-Etc.
There's just little to be gained from doing this. Have her struggle with it, sure. Have it be more difficult for her than it was for Luke, ok I can see that. But to have her go full-on "dark," nope. And yes, the Expanded materials have done a better job, a MUCH better job, with it's female characters (both heroes and villains). But the FILMS, unless it's Leia, have a far less, stellar, track record in this area. So yeah, that past baggage is going to be on the minds of the audience, and it's only natural for it to be that way. So you do have to be careful about how you do Rey's arc, because many in the GA are already inclined to be cautious/worried given past history.
Fantastic, a well thought out response. Much appreciated.
Gonna respond in reverse order. I disagree that there is little to be gained from it. I think this would make the story exponentially more interesting than the Rey vs Kylo traditional, age old same ol'.
Luke wasn't even trained properly. Too old and too hot-headed, jumped the gun every chance he got. Almost fell to the dark side himself. Didn't defeat his final adversary. It suits his character to overestimate his capabilities, even multiple times.
The PR standpoint is the only thing seriously keeping this from coming to fruition in my opinion. Disney is afraid of taking risks. They will always choose the "safe" route. Sometimes this yields decent results, sometimes it does not. If ep VIII is the mundane traditional blockbuster I expect it to be, It will mirror Empire to a nearly humorous degree.
In the end, though, I wouldn't have her killed or redeemed at the end, i'd like to see her conflicted and walk away from it all at the end of IX like Ahsoka in CW. To become a grey jedi and the mentor role of episode X. Again, a beautiful moment/concept to apply to the films.
I even mostly agree with "no need to do another conflicted villain role." But it's not about needing to do something its about seeing it done anyway. To see both characters move right past each other on the spectrum of dark to light would be so cathartic. It would be unimaginably shocking to the audience. Rather than predictable.
In the end, it's about proving to the audience that nothing is black and white, that emotion and passion doesn't have to be pure evil. That you do get to come back from the brink even when you've killed your father. That nothing keeps you from falling off the deep end even when you're the pinnacle of righteousness.
I would find that to be satisfying storytelling..
." But man I can't stop thinking about how awesome this would be.
