A Mirror Darkly?
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Mirror Master's design is a little off. Like with the 90's open hair mask he's trying too hard to seem young.
Also, Flash's color scheme seems a bit muted. I know this is THE BATMAN and they may be in a dark night setting, but I don't know, some of these guest heroes should POP out a little more in terms of color, like contrast.
I mean, the Flash is the protector of Central City, but unlike Batman he has more of a rapport with the media and it's citizens and is more like a city mascot than an urban mythical figure. The contrast could be good.
Anyway, we'll see what comes of it. Looks like Mirror Master's having some illusion fun.
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Also, Flash's color scheme seems a bit muted. I know this is THE BATMAN and they may be in a dark night setting, but I don't know, some of these guest heroes should POP out a little more in terms of color, like contrast.
I mean, the Flash is the protector of Central City, but unlike Batman he has more of a rapport with the media and it's citizens and is more like a city mascot than an urban mythical figure. The contrast could be good.
Anyway, we'll see what comes of it. Looks like Mirror Master's having some illusion fun.
Kick Robin in the Rear!
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Gezz are all the League teamates that guest star on this series going to
1. see The Batcave ?
2. Find out Bruce Wayne is BATMAN ?
1. see The Batcave ?
2. Find out Bruce Wayne is BATMAN ?
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he's used them practically in battle before so i don't seem them as being a problem...
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As for a general episode, it would be nice to finally see bruce fighting against someone with as much skill as himself...
up till this point, he has had no equal in battle and has even managed to take out his entire rogue's gallery in a fight (which puts spidey and the sinister six to shame).
I have a feeling his dopellganger will escape but i hope he has an integral part to play in batman's future.
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it's also nice to see a good ol' classic punch to the face
glad to see they aren't holding back on the violence, especially towards kids (think this is the first time i've ever seen a kid being punched in the face in an american cartoon).
don't know what's happening with the 1st robin's leg's though...
one of them isn't there
up till this point, he has had no equal in battle and has even managed to take out his entire rogue's gallery in a fight (which puts spidey and the sinister six to shame).
I have a feeling his dopellganger will escape but i hope he has an integral part to play in batman's future.
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it's also nice to see a good ol' classic punch to the face
glad to see they aren't holding back on the violence, especially towards kids (think this is the first time i've ever seen a kid being punched in the face in an american cartoon).
don't know what's happening with the 1st robin's leg's though...
one of them isn't there
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I just have never liked it as a desgin element to his costume in this show. Just kinda unneccesary(sp?).
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don't know what's happening with the 1st robin's leg's though...
one of them isn't there
It's right there. It's bent in half and his foot is coming out of his arse.
The punch to the face is nice. Not many punches to the face in Saturday morning toons anymore.
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I just hope the action is top notch, it doesn't feel the same after matsuda has left.
the slick batman fighting has not yet come across this season.
Anyone seen this ep yet, is it any good, i'm waiting till it gets on the net, should watch it by monday at the latest
the slick batman fighting has not yet come across this season.
Anyone seen this ep yet, is it any good, i'm waiting till it gets on the net, should watch it by monday at the latest
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I really liked the Mirror Master design but his characterization bugged me, the weird sidekick chick, and how the mirror universe looked (as oppose to the DCAU version).
And doesn't Mirror Master have a Scottish accent.
And doesn't Mirror Master have a Scottish accent.
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Going to watch it right now...
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Finished watching it...
One word: Crap-Tacular
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING was bad about it. Flash...Didn't like the voice, annoying, won't stop effing moving, talks non stop, and not enough ACTION during battles. Mirror Master...Lame sidekick woman person(WTF was she for?) , gay as hell costume, horrible plot/diabolical scheme, the whole mirror power thing wasn't used to full potential( hell not even half). Robin...as CFE said crappy oneliners, and also annoying. Even Batman was quite dull. The action ,which usually makes the show watchable, wasn't anything special either and also just...bleh.
3/10
One word: Crap-Tacular
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING was bad about it. Flash...Didn't like the voice, annoying, won't stop effing moving, talks non stop, and not enough ACTION during battles. Mirror Master...Lame sidekick woman person(WTF was she for?) , gay as hell costume, horrible plot/diabolical scheme, the whole mirror power thing wasn't used to full potential( hell not even half). Robin...as CFE said crappy oneliners, and also annoying. Even Batman was quite dull. The action ,which usually makes the show watchable, wasn't anything special either and also just...bleh.
3/10
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dancing_on_fire.....Burnett had already stated that this Flash is Barry Allen....and as for Wally West "OBVIOUSLY" being the better Flash is ridiculous in my opinion...Barry Allen is "The Man" to some of us.
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The episode was alright. Nothing great. I thought the Superman and Green Arrow team ups were better. I missed the first 5 minutes though. I didn't like Flash's voice very much. I guess I was so used to Michael Rosenbaum's voice that whenever I thought of an animated Flash, I pictured Michael's voice too. The episode was 6/10 for me. And that's being generous.
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The second one does; this is the first one, Scudder.
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Yes, the voice of the Flash was just annoying. I'm surprised they just didn't cast the Micro Machines guy if they wanted him to talk fast all the time. Not one of the best, I'd give it 5/10, which is disappointing because Flash is such a great character.
The writing on this show is terrible.Robin needs to shut up about 95% of the time and the villain schemes are so 1950s.The voice of Flash was off too.
But I will continue to watch this,it's a trainwreck you can't help but watch.
But I will continue to watch this,it's a trainwreck you can't help but watch.
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This is the 3rd team up episode of THE BATMAN within 5 episodes, and it proves that so far they have a clear formula. One of the guest hero's rogues randomly decides to commit a crime in Gotham for whatever reason. Guest Hero arrives. Guest Hero gets to see the Batcave, discover Batman's identity and Robin makes some jokes. Batman is too ashamed of Batgirl to EVER allow her to meet any of his Justice League friends (aside for J'onn). They team up and beat the villain. Roll credits.
Formula isn't always bad. If you do it efficiently, have some twists, and some good animation/action, it can still work. The problem is that using the SAME formula for what appears to be half a season at least so far is waring thin. The Flash is one of DC's best known heroes and a founding JLA'er, but his episode with THE BATMAN was the worst episode of the season thus far, making some of the generic bits in "The Batman/Superman Story" look like Timmverse brillance. It isn't as poor as anything from the first season or any of the duds from Seasons 2-3, mind you. But next to Season 4 or some of the gem episodes from Season 2 and 3, and it's mediocrity is obvious.
The plot of the episode: Mirror Master and his lady sidekick (would she be called Mirror Mistress?) blow into Gotham city by creating copies of Batman, Robin, and later The Flash to commit some robberies of lenses. Eventually the real Flash shows up and the trio have to unite to keep this new fiend from looting all of Gotham. Okay, not looting Gotham, but kidnapping it's richest citizens for ransom, but aside for that it really is no different from Count Vertigo a few weeks ago. But, really, this episode was essentially the same as the Green Arrow one, which was handled a lot better.
The lone original bit was the fact that Mirror Master was framing the Dynamic Duo as well as Flash for his robberies, which included assaulting security guards, and NOTHING is done with it. I hate wasted potential. Imagine how much more rivitting has Batman, Robin, & the Flash had to contend with a hostile media or even some SWAT teams gathering? It at least would have added some sort of unique detail. THE BATMAN has had a library of wasted potential out of some episodes' details, and this one adds to that pile. Batman figuring out these dupes were "mirror reverses" was cool, but aside for that, nothing too special.
Charlie Schlatter gets to reprise his role as The Flash after voicing him way back in 1997 in the Season 2 SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES episode "Speed Demons". Frankly, I can see why Micheal Rosenbaum was recast for JLU, because he is much better in the role. Rosenbaum can crack jokes and be a clown when he has to, but he also can have an air of seriousness and experience when he wants to. Schlatter doesn't, or at least didn't have much chance to here. The Flash was too much of a looney tune, acting almost like a mildly toned down Freakazoid. He had his speed powers and vibrating, cyclone bits, but he acted a bit immature and I had difficulty believing he'd actually battled Mirror Master before from how he acted, much less beaten him before. I can take Robin acting a bit like a dweeb, he's still in junior high. But The Flash? He came off more like KID FLASH at best. Plus, when Batman tells him that Mirror Master is in Gotham, Flash is genuinely surprised. If he wasn't tracking the foe, why the hell did he invade the Batcave at random!? Maybe the writers were trying to make Flash seem quirky, but it backfired a bit.
Plus, the episode has an unintentionally hilarious and homoerotic line when Robin gushes to Batman as they race into the Batmobile, "Let's do some grinding of our own!" Hoo-boy. Episodes like this make me REALLY miss Yin and the subtle romantic tension she had with Bats.
Mirror Master's voice wasn't too bad, a bit generic but that isn't strange on THE BATMAN. His design, especially the mask, was too stuck in the 90's period of "half masks". The episode had some decent action, but we've seen a few "mirror matches" from THE BATMAN before, especially after two Clayfaces, so it wasn't anything too terrific. Naturally, Batman picks Mirror Master's pocket and saves the day. Only Green Arrow had the nerve to almost upstage Batman on his own show.
I don't mind that Batman isn't borderline paranoid here, but the problem is that things are kept so light that he all but resembles the "Costumed Cop" of the 50's and 60's. An attempt for a lighter Batman for a new generation isn't bad, but pretending that the 80's innovations never happened is starting to go too far.
If The Flash couldn't even be handled well, I am not having hopes for lower level hero team-ups like Green Lantern and Hawkman. But hopefully the writers will have realized how generic things are and mixed things up. How about having a Leaguer call Batman for help and he goes to an outside city for once? Y'know, something?
If not, though, then it is a good thing this is the last season, and THE BATMAN can exit the stage with some of the dignity it gained last season intact.
Formula isn't always bad. If you do it efficiently, have some twists, and some good animation/action, it can still work. The problem is that using the SAME formula for what appears to be half a season at least so far is waring thin. The Flash is one of DC's best known heroes and a founding JLA'er, but his episode with THE BATMAN was the worst episode of the season thus far, making some of the generic bits in "The Batman/Superman Story" look like Timmverse brillance. It isn't as poor as anything from the first season or any of the duds from Seasons 2-3, mind you. But next to Season 4 or some of the gem episodes from Season 2 and 3, and it's mediocrity is obvious.
The plot of the episode: Mirror Master and his lady sidekick (would she be called Mirror Mistress?) blow into Gotham city by creating copies of Batman, Robin, and later The Flash to commit some robberies of lenses. Eventually the real Flash shows up and the trio have to unite to keep this new fiend from looting all of Gotham. Okay, not looting Gotham, but kidnapping it's richest citizens for ransom, but aside for that it really is no different from Count Vertigo a few weeks ago. But, really, this episode was essentially the same as the Green Arrow one, which was handled a lot better.
The lone original bit was the fact that Mirror Master was framing the Dynamic Duo as well as Flash for his robberies, which included assaulting security guards, and NOTHING is done with it. I hate wasted potential. Imagine how much more rivitting has Batman, Robin, & the Flash had to contend with a hostile media or even some SWAT teams gathering? It at least would have added some sort of unique detail. THE BATMAN has had a library of wasted potential out of some episodes' details, and this one adds to that pile. Batman figuring out these dupes were "mirror reverses" was cool, but aside for that, nothing too special.
Charlie Schlatter gets to reprise his role as The Flash after voicing him way back in 1997 in the Season 2 SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES episode "Speed Demons". Frankly, I can see why Micheal Rosenbaum was recast for JLU, because he is much better in the role. Rosenbaum can crack jokes and be a clown when he has to, but he also can have an air of seriousness and experience when he wants to. Schlatter doesn't, or at least didn't have much chance to here. The Flash was too much of a looney tune, acting almost like a mildly toned down Freakazoid. He had his speed powers and vibrating, cyclone bits, but he acted a bit immature and I had difficulty believing he'd actually battled Mirror Master before from how he acted, much less beaten him before. I can take Robin acting a bit like a dweeb, he's still in junior high. But The Flash? He came off more like KID FLASH at best. Plus, when Batman tells him that Mirror Master is in Gotham, Flash is genuinely surprised. If he wasn't tracking the foe, why the hell did he invade the Batcave at random!? Maybe the writers were trying to make Flash seem quirky, but it backfired a bit.
Plus, the episode has an unintentionally hilarious and homoerotic line when Robin gushes to Batman as they race into the Batmobile, "Let's do some grinding of our own!" Hoo-boy. Episodes like this make me REALLY miss Yin and the subtle romantic tension she had with Bats.
Mirror Master's voice wasn't too bad, a bit generic but that isn't strange on THE BATMAN. His design, especially the mask, was too stuck in the 90's period of "half masks". The episode had some decent action, but we've seen a few "mirror matches" from THE BATMAN before, especially after two Clayfaces, so it wasn't anything too terrific. Naturally, Batman picks Mirror Master's pocket and saves the day. Only Green Arrow had the nerve to almost upstage Batman on his own show.
I don't mind that Batman isn't borderline paranoid here, but the problem is that things are kept so light that he all but resembles the "Costumed Cop" of the 50's and 60's. An attempt for a lighter Batman for a new generation isn't bad, but pretending that the 80's innovations never happened is starting to go too far.
If The Flash couldn't even be handled well, I am not having hopes for lower level hero team-ups like Green Lantern and Hawkman. But hopefully the writers will have realized how generic things are and mixed things up. How about having a Leaguer call Batman for help and he goes to an outside city for once? Y'know, something?
If not, though, then it is a good thing this is the last season, and THE BATMAN can exit the stage with some of the dignity it gained last season intact.
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