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Alabama Legislators Pass Bill Requiring School Prayer Every Morning

Yeah, let the kids who actually want to pray pray, the others can read or do some last minute homework or something.
 
Or they can just pray at home, at recess or at an extracirricular club. Not one damned microsecond of time in a public school should be devoted to prayer, voluntary or otherwise.
 
Yeah, let the kids who actually want to pray pray, the others can read or do some last minute homework or something.

Except the problem is, whoever doesn't pray or prays to a different god will pretty much paint a massive target on their forehead. We're talking about a state that wants to force kids to pray to the Christian god. I couldn't imagine being an atheist or someone of a different religion down there. You could probably hide it for a while, but if there is an "optional" moment of prayer and someone doesn't pray, they're broadcasting to everyone that they're not a Christian. Yikes.
 
Isnt forced prayer also defeating the purpose of prayer. Youre supposed to come to God when you need him or when you want to. Its a relationship. You cant force a relationship.

Im beginning to think that politicians join a special underground sect of christianity with its own holy book when they enter office cause none of them have a clue about real christianity.
 
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forced to pray + legal to discriminate against gay people? someone tell Superman to stop flying backwards, already!
 
Isnt forced prayer also defeating the purpose of prayer. Youre supposed to come to God when you need him or when you want to. Its a relationship. You cant force a relationship.

Exactly. You have to desire to pray or else the purpose is defeated.

If they are going to set time aside for meditation, don't label it "prayer" for not all kids in Alabama are Christian. And if this is meant to try to steer a child toward Christianity, that is also wrong. That is the job of the parents to steer them in that direction, not the state.
 
ok correct me if i'm wrong here but does this whole thing not go against the bases of America, the whole freedom of choice and religious beliefs
 
if it's come down to forcing people to believe, God needs some serious rebranding. maybe He/She can start wearing a backwards baseball cap.
 
ok correct me if i'm wrong here but does this whole thing not go against the bases of America, the whole freedom of choice and religious beliefs

The whole current state of our country is one big pile of ironic BS. The republicans: "You are free to believe what you want ... as long as its in the chtistian god...and agrees with my beliefs...and is what my pastor and the voice in my head says."
 
15 minutes is a long ass prayer session.
 
Aren't these pretty much the same people who whine when other religions "force" their beliefs on them by asking for acceptance?
 
Aren't these pretty much the same people who whine when other religions "force" their beliefs on them by asking for acceptance?

Yep. Its amazing how the hypocrisy is lost on them. Some might say its miraculous.
 
At my middle school and high school they had prayer groups that met before school. Lot's of teachers and the principal participated but they kids lead it and of course it was optional. And it was also voluntary of course
 
Do you even read the things you post? Most times they seem like it's just general links to something that might have to do with the topic at hand.
 
I don't use my ignore list. I like to talk :)
 
I prefer to talk to people who listen and can be reasoned with.
 
I like to talk to everyone. It makes boring times interesting.
 
The way this bill was passed is absolutely absurd:
Only McClurkin and one other Republican on the panel actually voted "aye" on the bill. Two Republicans and one Democrat insist they said "no" to the bill in the voice vote; three legislators weren't even present for the vote. The House's clerk told the Advertiser that "the chairman of each committee has the discretion to decide the outcome of a voice vote."

Who the **** uses voice votes only in this day and age?!
 
People trying to sneak **** by and avoid blame later on.
 
I have to say this seems like political theater to me.

Every person with a high school education, and at all familiar with the law (which would include everyone in the state legislature) knows that this is going to be overruled in a heart beat.

But, no one in a state as red as Alabama wants to be the guy who voted against mandated school prayer. This is a ploy of some sort. Maybe they're trying to force the governor to veto it.

Call me cynical (regarding religious bullies).
 

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