I've been saying this for years.
I call his performance "Jack Nicholson as Jack Nicholson as The Joker".
Nope. Jack didn't nail it in my eyes.
I'm read joker for long long time and when I picture joker the voice I hear in my head is hamill when I see joker I see 'the killing joke' and 'the return of the joker' (B:tas feature film)
THAT to me is joker. so who tells esoteric jokes (only he unders the punchline) he is dark witty charming and deadly.
Nicholson gave a good performance but I don't think his character had depth I was think good 'Nicholson performance' rather than 'THAT's joker' you know the scene where batman/bale interrogates the dirty cop THAT was batman to a tee, bale NAILED it right there and then.
so basically Nicholson gets a 'A' for effort but doesn't quite 'get' the joker. here's hoping nolan reads the killing joke and watches the return of the joker the quintessential joke stories and ledger gives the performance of his career.
anyone else agree?
. That's why Batman takes the blame for Dent's crimes. "The Joker cannot win".
Again obvious and you missed it.
But the Joker did win by getting the living breathing continuing to act incorruptible symbol to ruin his value as a symbol for a dead and gone martyr.
I hate Jim Lee's Joker but i really do not get what you mean with transgender/crossdresser wannabe. That, along with sadomasochism have always been arround the Joker. It has been well-established that he reinvents himself, he is not only 1 person but multiple with the same basic characteristics, of a clown. Clowns originate from the Ancient Greeks and the rites of Dionysus where sexuality and transgenderism was something pretty common, especially in festivals and in theatre. So taking from that and from the fact that Joker is basicaly everything that exists, character wise we have come to todays joker.
Writers have taken these elements and incorporated them into the Joker.
Grant Morrison treats joker like an entity and batmans polar opposite. He is not only a villain but also an omen of things to come. I see nothing bad about a writer expressing his own take on a character. Also that's not entirely the writer but also the artist has a say in how tha characters is pictured.
Personaly i would be really bored with just the gangster-joker.
Btw : The Cosplayer did an amazing job !
The Joker is like that, he's a narcisist, cares about looking vintage. You look at him and you're not sure what he's really thinking.
I'm in neither the Nicholson or Ledger camp, but I disagree that it was just Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson. People only say that in retrospect. At the time (1989) Nicholson got just as much praise for his performance as Heath Ledger did.
Yeah, it's still cool, but the pudgy 50 year old Joker with a told origin is just not how i see the character.
Especially when he's in a movie where he's interacting with batman for the first and last time.
Joker, for me, is skinny. Doesn't care about money or that kind of power. He also doesn't fear death like Napier does at 50 years of age. That guy dreaded going into that chemical plant because he had a feeling he would be betrayed, arrested or murdered. Even in his final breath, he was petrified at falling from the helicopter.
Not how i see Joker at all.
I don't necessarilly disagree with that but I think he was about 10 years too late to be playing the joker. If he had played the joker in his one flew overs the cucko's nest to the shining period, I think his performance would defnitely be up there at least with ledgers.
50 ain't old, besides Joker isn't portrayed in the comics as being youthful. He looks about 40. Cesar Romero was even older than Nicholson when he played Joker and I never hear anybody complain that he was 'too old'.But by the time he was cast he was 50 and pudgy and sort of too used to playing himself.
Yeah, it's still cool, but the pudgy 50 year old Joker with a told origin is just not how i see the character.
Yeah, well, it's the same thing as people saying Michael Keaton wasn't tall or buff enough.Joker, for me, is skinny.
Since when did Nicholson Joker care about money and power? They were just a means to achieve his ends, just like the Heath Ledger Joker.Doesn't care about money or that kind of power.
At the chemical plant he hadn't become Joker yet.He also doesn't fear death like Napier does at 50 years of age. That guy dreaded going into that chemical plant because he had a feeling he would be betrayed, arrested or murdered. Even in his final breath, he was petrified at falling from the helicopter.
Nope every origin of the Joker shows him as a young guy, like Killing Joke, Batman Confidential and all that. Not a fifty something year old like Nicholson. In Killing Joke he even had a young wife who was preggers. Joker was never a pudgy old guy like Nicholson. Joker is a slim/skinny guy. Always has been.
We never saw Romero without the makeup.Nobody complained about Romero because he didn't look his age. Nowhere near it.
Well same thing that he had a fricken' gargoyle tied to his leg, dragging him to plunge 100 stories.Soz but that comic book panel you posted ain't Joker showing fear. "No it can't be true...and yet there it is" ain't a fearful response. Sounds like disbelief and then acceptance.
And yet, his performance was nothing like in The Shining, Cuckoo's Nest or Witches of Eastwick. This guy didn't win 3 oscars for nothing.It was Nicholson playing himself as Joker that's why he was cast because peeps though the crazy Jack performances he was doing in movies like Shining and Witches of Eastwick and Cuckoo's Nest would be right for a movie Joker.