Anyone else done with Marvel?

[kainedamo]

The piss poor ending of Secret Invasion, leading into yet another "big event". The destruction of Spider-Man. Garth Ennis leaving The Punisher. The upcoming cancellation of Spider-Girl.

I mean, are there any good books left at Marvel that don't require buying about 3 other books just to get the full story?

What the hell's the point anymore? I stopped buying Marvel at the end of SI. Except Spider-Girl. Anyone else with me?

 

[Doc Destruction]

I collect VERY little Marvel now. Maybe 4-5 books.

But then, my whole pull list has shrunk quite a bit. Just not as violently as Marvel's.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

On the contrary, i'm extremely excited about the upcoming year with Marvel..

Maybe i'm easy to please, but i think the company has been on a roll since Civil War, i LOVED Secret Invasion, and i can't WAIT to get into Dark Reign.

I think it's a GREAT time to be a Marvel fan.

 

[elswick1979]

Eh, you won't be missed. Big events titles like SI and the 400 monthly Avengers are here because people buy them, Spider-girl is going away because people don't, it's just that simple. For every person that didn't like the ending of Si, there are 5 that did, for every person that decides not to read marvel or dc anymore there are 3 16-year olds that just got their first paycheck and went to their LCBS for the first time and bought a hand full of books, despite what most people think marvel doesn't produce books with you in mind, the produce books to make money,and when their is a 100,000 copies of SI#8 ordered and only 4 copies of SPider-girl guess what guy you lose.

 

[yenaled]

I really hate Marvel's rolling events but they have a huge number of good ongoings.

Thor, Captain America, Iron Fist, Captain Britain, Nova, Guardians of the Galaxy, Hercules.

Plus I'm excited for Mighty Avengers with Slott.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I generally just ignore what I don't like. All of the series yen just mentioned are great, so I focus on those. Sure, they might get canceled at any time because they're not top sellers (except Thor, on the off chance a new issue's come out), but I enjoy them while they last. I'm also really looking forward to Agents of Atlas, which wound up getting a really interesting concept to start out on thanks to Dark Reign. So, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the constant universe-wide shifts or the big events every year, but there are still some diamonds in the rough that you can read without getting too sucked into those things.

I'm certainly happier with Marvel than I am with DC at the moment, at least. I can't get into anything DC's doing lately.

 

[Harlekin]

As long as they keep putting out Daredevil, Captain Britain and MI-13, X-Factor and Incredible Hercules, no.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What if they keep putting out X-Factor with Stroman on art?

 

[Harlekin]

Don't make me cry, Corp.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Let's see...Secret Invasion's ending was so much better than the ending to WWH, Civil War, and House of M, and it was the first ending I've enjoyed in quite a while, and has me pumped to read the new or changing books that spin out of it. A good ending for an event should lead to some changes and excitement about other titles; and, on that account, Secret Invasion lived up to it.

Sure, it might be sad that Ennis left Punisher; but, the first new storyarc by another writer was still pretty dang good. AND, we are getting another Punisher story by Ennis with the current mini, Punisher War Zone.

The destruction of Spider-Man??!!?? How about the rebirth of Spider-Man, with some pretty dang good stories in this past year. It's been a while since I've enjoyed Spidey this much, when in past years, the best Spidey title used to be Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.

What else is cool about Marvel? I'm loving The Stand! It's bringing Stephen King's best novel to life beautifully. Sure, I'm mixed on The Dark Tower, as I think those who haven't read those books might be kind of unimpressed with what's been presented; but, The Stand is awesome.

Ultimatum, while only being two issues in, seems pretty darn good so far. The Ultimate Universe needed a jolt, and they seem to be shaking things up. Hopefully the cancellation of most of the regular series titles means something great will come later.

Other titles that are pretty good: Thor, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Captain America, Nova, Guardians of the Galaxy, Eternals, Hercules, Avengers Inititative, and Kick-Ass.

And, while I understand you might be upset about the cancellation of Spider-Girl, it doesn't bother me that much. It will probably be back in some mini-series...and, really, it has only been an ok book lately.

 

[Blader5489]

I really hate Marvel's rolling events but they have a huge number of good ongoings.

Thor, Captain America, Iron Fist, Captain Britain, Nova, Guardians of the Galaxy, Hercules.

Plus I'm excited for Mighty Avengers with Slott.

But but but....Spider-Girl!!!

 

[Franklin Richards]

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

 

[yenaled]

What if they keep putting out X-Factor with Stroman on art?

Guys been killing the title for me.

 

[kainedamo]

Are some of you actually angry that someone doesn't enjoy the same books that you do? Kinda seems like it.

I'm free to my opinion. And my opinion is SI was a crappy event with a crappy ending, and I'm done with these never ending events.

The concept was okay, it just wasn't taken advantage of to its fullest. They could have told SI related stories for a lot longer, and it would have been more satisfying as a result. As it is, it just seemed like an excuse for a huge battle and a bunch of fancy splash pages. I need more in my books. Osborn becoming the top dog came out of nowhere, it had no logical build up. And its not very original either. Osborn is a joke these days. He was much more interesting when he actually knew who Spidey was.

When they ruined Spidey with their Mephisto BS, they destroyed one of my favourite books. The guy that said he hasn't enjoyed it for years until recently, I'd have to disagree with that. JMS' run was pretty excellent in my view, and shows that the marriage does indeed work. The Mephisto thing, it was incredibly cheap and a big example of badly thought out decisions at Marvel. I really dislike it when commercial comics decide to just sweep decades of stories under the carpet. It makes following a book like that for a length of time kind of ridiculous. Spider-Man right now is very much like Smallville, or even Ultimate Spider-Man. **** that.

Spider-Girl admittedly is very hit and miss, but when its hit its one of the better kid friendly books, and it deserves more marketing and better artists placed on it from the top guys at Marvel. Spider-Girl could easily have been a bigger success. Plus, from my viewpoint, now more than ever the book follows the true continuity. Baby May alive and well, Peter and MJ together.

Captain America, Hercules, Daredevil, they're good books. But I can't be assed. Especially seeing as they usually tie into these crappy events. And I liked HoM and Civil War. The ending of Civil War brought so much potential for exciting, fresh stories across the board at Marvel. Tony Stark, the head of SHIELD, with the identities and fates of hundreds of superpowered folk in his hand, no other choice but to hunt down unregistered heroes. But the potential was wasted. Before long, the next event was already under way. The skrull invasion. And again, good concept. But too early off the back of Civil War. And SI was very poorly executed. Bendis did not have this planned all the way back from the destruction of the Avengers, thats a lot of bull.

Another thing. This red Hulk nonsense. What IS this?? And grown up people are buying it and eating it up?? God!

Anyways, if you guys enjoy it, fair enough. But its independent books for me from now on. The quality at marvel overall is gonna seriously have to improve for me to start buying again.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I still think your reaction is a bit extreme, especially since Captain America--arguably Marvel's best comic--hasn't really tied into anything in the strictest sense and most of those other tie-ins were only marginally connected to the events at best, but I do agree that the events are coming too fast and furious. There really is a lot of potential in each of the new status quos we've seen for the past few years, and it feels like we're getting shortchanged because they're gone after a year at best. I'd appreciate seeing Marvel's publishing line slow down a bit, but that's unlikely given the USA's ever-shrinking attention span.

Guys been killing the title for me.

He's off now.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Overall, I'm a lot more choosey with what I get now. I used to buy EVERY Marvel that came out every week. But I'm sick of Bendis-led events that go NOWHERE with their anticlimactic highly IMPOSSIBLE non-endings, havin' to buy 50 books just to get the story that shoulda been told in 1, and the constant desire to shake things up before the dust even settles. Yeah, some good books pop up here and there, but I ain't forkin' no $3.99 fer 22 lousy pages.

So now when I buy a book, it's based on price, content, art and if Bendis' name is nowhere on the cover. Sadly, my one refuge over at DC seems to be takin' the Marvel approach to things now. Guess now's a good a time as any to get into indies!

 

[louiebling$]

I am very much content with marvel

 

[Blader5489]

Anyways, if you guys enjoy it, fair enough. But its independent books for me from now on. The quality at marvel overall is gonna seriously have to improve for me to start buying again.

The quality is all there. But apparently, you can't be assed.

(whatever the **** that means)

Oh, and Norman's ascension to power didn't come out of nowhere. It has been building up in Thunderbolts for the last year, and he has been far from a joke of a character. But again, you can't be assed!

 

[Union Jack]

i an't get enough marvel at the mo..captains america and britain are great..i like the civil war,secret invasion and dark reign sounds great..loving avengers,incredible hercules..hulk,thor..old man logan i could keep going....

Dc is poor at the Mo..nowt much i like countdown and 52 and final crisis been dull...batman rip was garbage imo,superman has been ok i liked the brainiac arc but new krypton has not done nowt for me..
Gl isnt bad tho..
but not much is great there for me at the current time..

 

[kainedamo]

The quality is all there. But apparently, you can't be assed.

(whatever the **** that means)

Oh, and Norman's ascension to power didn't come out of nowhere. It has been building up in Thunderbolts for the last year, and he has been far from a joke of a character. But again, you can't be assed!

It's a Belfast expression. Clearly you have an issue with me having an opinion.

I can't be assed means I can't be bothered spending a fortune on books that from month to month could tie into an event I'd have no interest in or could undergo some radical change, with continuity being swept away like so much dust.

And yeah, Thunderbolts, thats exactly my point. So I had to have bought a years worth of Thunderbolts to see that Norman has been rising up? And that ontop of Amazing Spidey (3 books a month) to see whats going on with Norman there?

 

[Blader5489]

It's a Belfast expression. Clearly you have an issue with me having an opinion.

I can't be assed means I can't be bothered spending a fortune on books that from month to month could tie into an event I'd have no interest in or could undergo some radical change, with continuity being swept away like so much dust.

What I "have an issue with" is that you're *****ing that Marvel doesn't have any good books anymore, when people have listed several, many of which (like Captain America and Daredevil) don't tie into Marvel's events. And the ones that do tie-in don't rely on those events, they carve their own stories out of those events (like Hercules or Nova).

You're not being reasonable, you're just looking for excuses to stop buying Marvel.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Again, that only really excludes ASM on the continuity front and stuff like the Avengers titles on the tie-in front, since only the Avengers titles really tied in heavily into Secret Invasion in any meaningful way. The tie-ins in other titles amounted to stories that could've been told anyway but just happened to include Skrulls so they could slap "Secret Invasion" across the cover for a sales boost. Incredible Hercules had its own story that took Herc to the Skrull gods' domain and was very self-contained. Captain Britain and MI-13 dealt specifically with the Skrull invasion of the UK and Avalon, period. Guardians of the Galaxy's tie-in just saw a Skrull infiltration of the Guardians' base come to light and dealt with it in a very self-contained way. None of them fed into Secret Invasion itself or took anything else away from it beyond Skrulls as the villains of the arcs. They're still enjoyable without ever even looking at SI itself.

 

[Blader5489]

And yeah, Thunderbolts, thats exactly my point. So I had to have bought a years worth of Thunderbolts to see that Norman has been rising up? And that ontop of Amazing Spidey (3 books a month) to see whats going on with Norman there?

Thunderbolts has been amazing for the past 2 years, you should be buying it just for that.

ASM has had nothing to do with Norman's rise to power.

 

[Havok83]

I hate how Marvel relies on its big events/crossovers so much every year. After CW, I was ready to be done with the. Actually after that one, I dropped all the non-X-men books I was reading. Just couldnt keep up anymore.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Marvel makes tons of good comics, even if most of their event-line stuff is poor.