Arabic School Funded By Tax Dollars??

[Memphis Slim]

NYC group concerned about pro-Muslim potential in new school

Chad Groening
A New York City-based grassroots coalition is concerned that it has not received satisfactory answers regarding the creation of a new public school in Brooklyn to teach Arabic history, culture, and language.

The Khalil Gibran International Academy is projected to open its doors in September, but a citizens group known as the Stop the Madrassa Community Coalition says Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the NYC Department of Education have refused to address community concerns about just what will be taught in the school.
Sarah Springer, a resident of Brooklyn and a leader in the coalition, says "We have asked to see what the lessons plans are; where the textbooks are coming from; who the teachers are -- Will they be accredited? Will they have an Islamic slant in their teaching? And no answers, nothing satisfactory -- only platitudes, non-responsive answers have been given."
Springer says the woman chosen to be school’s principal has questionable connections as well. "Dhabah Almonstasser has documented ties to terrorist organizations. She was given a national award from CAIR," says the coalition leader. CAIR -- the Council on American-Islamic Relations -- is a U.S-based pro-Muslim lobbying group accused by at least one Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill of having "ties to terrorism" and "intimate links to Hamas."
Springer says Joel Klein, the school's chancellor, told her that the school will be monitored and would be closed down should there be any religious or Islamic slant to the education.
Calls for more information according to the Freedom of Information Act have not been adequately responded to, and Springer says there is no concrete information as to what the school is all about. The coalition leader says the Stop the Madrassa Community Coalition must have some answers before it decides what action it might take in regard to the school.


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Now I know most of you will say..."There goes Slim again"...."bashing Muslims...

But just think this thru before you get hyped up. Can you honestly say that this is fair or not disturbing in the least??

Word is that Clerics will be teaching some the classes. Islam is so interwoven into everything the Muslims do. How they govern....how they dress, what they eat.....how they treat each other (especially the females). There is no way that this "WON"T be a religious school. And our tax dollars will fund it!! Where are the "church and state" people?
Where's the ACLU??

 

[Ghostvirus]

Oh Snap! He is now bolding everything, but using red bold to highlight. C.D. Is evolving!

 

[04nbod]

Word is that Clerics will be teaching some the classes. Islam is so interwoven into everything the Muslims do. How they govern....how they dress, what they eat.....how they treat each other (especially the females). There is no way that this "WON"T be a religious school. And our tax dollars will fund it!!

i don't know how it works in the US but i went to a government funded catholic school that taught religious education from a catholic viewpoint. I don't think there is a problem with the same thing for muslims. Obviously in the current climate they have to be moderated closely but i have faith there are enough sane people in the muslim community in order not to make this a problem.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah, you're right Slim, you're bashing muslims again.

 

[rdh007]

This is why vouchers are evil. I don't want my tax dollars teaching any type of religion.

 

[Mr. Credible]

i heard about this a few weeks ago... it's BS.

this school can't even provide a proper list of its class list or students attending, among many other things, and everything it plans to teach could be easily taught in public school.

 

[Darthphere]

i heard about this a few weeks ago... it's BS.

this school can't even provide a proper list of its class list or students attending, among many other things, and everything it plans to teach could be easily taught in public school.

That can be said for any private school.

 

[Mr. Credible]

That can be said for any private school.

no... it can't.


private schools have qualified teachers and approved courses.


this school does not. and, if you're talking about the "everything it plans to teach could be easily taught in public school" thing, yeah, i agree... but private schools are more, um... well, whatever they are.


still, BIG difference.

 

[Carcharodon]

LMAO I love how her, "documented," tie to terrorism is that she got an award from an organization that was accused by, "at least one," leader on Capitol Hill of terrorist connections.

Gotta love it.

 

[Memphis Slim]

i don't know how it works in the US but i went to a government funded catholic school that taught religious education from a catholic viewpoint. I don't think there is a problem with the same thing for muslims. Obviously in the current climate they have to be moderated closely but i have faith there are enough sane people in the muslim community in order not to make this a problem.

But that's London...not the U.S.
The U.K. is in very precarious situation with Muslims right now because of not assimilating them into the British culture. Ever seen this book??

Londonistan
http://www.answers.com/topic/londonistanuk-jpg
Londonistan: How Britain is creating a terror state within



Londonistan: How Britain is creating a terror state within is a book by British journalist Melanie Phillips on the topic of the spread of Islamism in the United Kingdom over the past twenty years. The book is published in London by Encounter books.



Overview

The book encompasses a critique of multiculturalism, weak policing, cultural relativism, and what Phillips calls a 'victim culture'. She argues that these forces combined to create an ideal breeding ground for Islamic terrorists. She points to the centrality of London based individuals and groups to many terror plots around the world, which she argues were enabled by a semi-formal "covenant of security" between Islamists and the British authorities. Zacharias Moussaoui and shoebomber Richard Reid are two of many such examples she points to in the book.

Critical reception

Steven Emerson said the book "exposes the scandalous appeasement of militant Islam by British officials, the media, even the Church of England, capturing in extraordinary detail how British society and institutions have either ignored or actively fostered the growth of extremist groups on British soil."
In contrast, the historian William Dalrymple has been particularly critical of the book, describing it as written by someone who shows "no evidence of having spent any time in Muslim company, or of having set foot within the Muslim world".

Is this one more thing towards Creeping Sharia. There are some that are pushing to have that here in America. And it runs totally against our democratic principles. Little concessions are being maybe for this group of people.....little by little....bit by bit.

The foot baths at the Univ of Michigan for Muslim students (paid for by taxes for religious purposes?), the cab drivers being allowed to "discriminate" against patrons with seeing-eye dogs or who may have bottle of liquor with them. What is this??? All in the name of religion?

 

[Penismightier]

This is why vouchers are evil. I don't want my tax dollars teaching any type of religion.

Exactly. There is a simple solution to all of this. No state religion, nothing religious funded by the state. That's freedom of religion.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Exactly. There is a simple solution to all of this. No state religion, nothing religious funded by the state. That's freedom of religion.

word... to everyone's mother.


there is no good reason why any of my hard earned money should pay for this... or any school, for that matter, being as that i don't have children... but, that's really a different discussion.

 

[rdh007]

word... to everyone's mother.


there is no good reason why any of my hard earned money should pay for this... or any school, for that matter, being as that i don't have children... but, that's really a different discussion.

I don't have a problem making sure the people that work at McDonald's can at least read. I'm willing to pay a couple of pennies for that.

 

[Carcharodon]

I don't have a problem making sure the people that work at McDonald's can at least read. I'm willing to pay a couple of pennies for that.

Yeah, or how about doctors that know the difference between your dick and your nose.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

But that's London...not the U.S.
The U.K. is in very precarious situation with Muslims right now because of not assimilating them into the British culture. Ever seen this book??

(book with rather inflammatory cover removed for my own sake...I mean, seriously a baby with an I :heart: al qaueda beanie? that **** is silly)

you mean the book by the global warming and evolution denier who also writes from London's right wing "Daily Mail"?
man, you're just a source for unbiased views aren't you Celldog- Slim?
(wasn't that an electronica band in the 90's, the guy from the Housemartins?)

also, why are you so riled up about religion? do you finally think like me, that it has no place in education or government and should be a private matter along with favorite sports team and musical tastes?

good! common ground between you and me man! that's progress if we can see eye to eye on a issue there is hope for Israel yet!!

woo7!!!

 

[Manic]

My tax dollars aren't funding it. I live in a different state.

Still, I don't support the idea of publicly-funded religious schools. If this school releases its course information, and they're teaching religion as part of the curriculum (extra-curricular doesn't count), then I'd rather this school go private or drop the religious classes.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Islam is so interwoven into everything the Muslims do. How they govern....how they dress, what they eat.....how they treat each other (especially the females). There is no way that this "WON"T be a religious school. And our tax dollars will fund it!! Where are the "church and state" people?
Where's the ACLU??

why does Celldog make the the same arguments he uses in favor of his religion sound negative when he uses them AGAINST other religions.
is he then saying that Christianity is NOT interwoven into everything the Christians do?
How they govern? ( pro-life, anti-gay rights?)
How they dress? ( ever been to a Christian music "concert"? jeeee-sus save me!)
How they treat each other? ( LOL remember the photos of the dudes holding up bibles in front of school entrances as proof that integration was against god's will? or the fact that the KKK is a "Christian" organization, plus let us not forget how women in the US were treated at the beginning of last century, arranged marriages were common for women as young as 14 in the advanced western society)
remove the beam from thy own ....or something like that?

 

[Addendum]

There should be no such monster as publicly funded religious "schools"

 

[Mr Sparkle]

yeah, that sucks.
all religious schools should be privately funded.
and should have state sanctioned basic course layouts so that people don't come out with foolish ideas when they "graduate" from them.

 

[xwolverine2]

grammaton clerics...lol

 

[Victarion]

Get outta here, you bombing bastards!

Spoiler

If they're not blowing people up, let them be.

 

[The Question]

yeah, that sucks.
all religious schools should be privately funded.
and should have state sanctioned basic course layouts so that people don't come out with foolish ideas when they "graduate" from them.

I think private schools should be able to plan their own curriculum.

 

[Manic]

I think private schools should be able to plan their own curriculum.

Eh... I say the government should have a little say. I mean, if a private school deems it unnecessary for its students to learn algebra...

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I think private schools should be able to plan their own curriculum.

and I think the government should have equivalence tests so that when I ask someone what 2+2 equals he doesn't answer "jesus?"

 

[Sandman138]

Yeah, or how about doctors that know the difference between your dick and your nose.

That's communist talk.