Are "fanboys" too dangerous?

[bullets]

Fanboys also will spew the most virulent of venom over various writers and stars...case in point, Shia LaBouf...aside from the silly name I am rather neutral about him....seen his sidekick roles in I,Robot and Constantine...didn't know he was a Disney kid until my sister mentioned it....but check around some boards and to read the hate...you'd swear Shia punched their mom in the face and peed on their Star Wars sheets....

I really don't get the hate for this guy . People went nuts over his swinging with the cg i monkeys but i thought that had barely any effect on the film itself.

 

[RootBeerMaster]

You Make some intresting Points and I have to agree the fan boys can be daugerus. Gambit being in the upcoming Wolverine Movie is proof the fan boys have power since a majority of them were pissed off about him being cut from the x-men movies witch then lead to both Marvel and Fox being overwellemed with Hate mail. To me this is a good thing has long as they don't kill Gambit off and it nice to know that the geeks have some power. t: But there are other cause like what you have stated where it is bad.

Also You said that the movie people go and get college degrees witch is true but Hollwoody never seems to understand what comic book fans want and so most of the movies are made poorly and the scripts written are bad, this is also because Hollwoody want to make it more Kid friendly witch is a bad movie.

Now I have only went around saying no Robin in the Dark Knight because Nolan said in an Interview that he didn't want Robin, Catwomen, Batgirl or Pegiun in his films because they were to Campy. Now I am a fanboy who is Dieing to see a good verison of Batgirl since she got screwed over in the 90s. However Nolan did such an Awsome Job with Batman Begins and Dark Knight that if he says no Batgirl than I will go along with what ever he wants to do. Remember you the one who said the movie people know more than us fan boys. t: my way of thinking is Nolan good, Hollwoody Bad, and While I hate the Idea of the Riddler in the next movie, if that is the villian Nolan wants then I will be for it, since Nolan wants to keep his Batman Dark and Badass. t: witch is something most movie people don't understand i will be for it.

Did you know that the fox producers now want to change the Wolverine Movie to be more kid friendly and less badass. I sry i don't even care for wolverine all that much but if i go to a wolverine movie shouldn't i be expecting a bad tempered Badass? Now the directer and Hugh Jackmen were trying to make a very Badass movie. so I am asking should the fanboy stay out of it if the studio chief won't let the directer do his job? while this power may be dangerus like you say, is it nesserily Bad?

Now I will have admited I am a fan boy who doesn't know jack about making movies but I do know there are charicters i want to see and don't want to see in the movies and I have develop my bios based on information I have collected.

Also DARK KNIGHT IS BEST MOVIE EVER, just thought it need to be said. the fact it is the 2nd largest grossing movie ever makes it that cause the frist is Titanic and that movie sucked. see based my bias on facts. t: I think it depends more on how us fans use the power and the not faceing consquences like you say does leave it wide open for becoming to powerful, but i am just guessing some times the power does help give us a good movie every once in a blue moon.

Sources:
http://screenrant.com/x-men-origins-wolverine-movie-trouble-niall-3467/

well that's funny i guess the second source comes from these fourms.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=307244

 

[Zephyr Alexian]

Fanboys also will spew the most virulent of venom over various writers and stars...case in point, Shia LaBouf...aside from the silly name I am rather neutral about him....seen his sidekick roles in I,Robot and Constantine...didn't know he was a Disney kid until my sister mentioned it....but check around some boards and to read the hate...you'd swear Shia punched their mom in the face and peed on their Star Wars sheets....

I think that a lot of what's said isn't even believed by the people who say it. It's just petty bantering.

A guy can be a fan of comic books and characters in general, but as soon as you start to get as crazy about it as you would say, the World Series, people start to raise an eyebrow.

Well, that's because Ted the comic book fan is talking about fantasy in the eyes of a lot of people. Steve Brannigan (Red Sox fan) has money riding on the games, so when he goes ballistic, it's understandable. He's got a mortgage dude.

I definitely agree with you though. I sat down and explained to one of my friends why I didn't like Superman Returns. (She actually loved the film) I went down the list, and I'm an animated conversationalist by nature; she tells me that I'm "too into the specifics, and I should just enjoy the film." I say, "um, no. I'm giving you reasons why I couldn't enjoy it." I get an angry stare followed by a "Your reasons will keep you from enjoying anything." "Uh, I thought we were talking about the movie." *silence* Finally, "Your opinions speak volumes about other things." Wtf?
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Larryfilmmaker should've also set some stipulations. There are different types of fanboys. Kevin Smith fanboys, Trekkies, Star Wars Junkies, Transformer fans, DC fans, Marvel fans, Potter fanatics, etc. . . . .

You might talk to one person about say: a certain CS Lewis film adaptation. It that thread, you'll probably on see a dozen posts, mostly negative.

Then, you go to a Star Wars thread, and there's over 1,000 replies, but the thread has only been open for a week. These folks live and breath SW in a figurative way, so if I go in their and say: "you know what, George Lucas original trilogy was overrated," people are going to respond according to their view and let me know what I'm not getting or ignoring from their stance on the issue.

It depends on the subject matter and what fan interests are really invested in. Nobody blames Marvel fans for being angry about the way Fox handles their properties. Nobody blames DC fans for their disgust at Warner's decisions in some cases. Honestly, if a person want to create a film like Shazam, Aqua-man, or Namor, a certain amount of skepticism is to be expected. Today's fans have to be proven wrong. You're right about one thing: a lot of the people who are praising Ledger's performance were flaming the guy and telling Brokeback jokes when his casting was confirmed. Now we never hear any more about that. (Even if he hadn't passed, I'm sure it wouldn't have happened.)

Fanboys are like a loud Italian family from the old country. There are always shouts and bickering, but no harm is meant.

 

[Silk Spectre]

I can partially see the point of fan boys, the studios have put out some horrible, adaptations. I can understand some tweaks to the continuity, hell the continuity of most comics gets tweaked a lot. However, you have movies like Catwoman which have nothing at all to do with the actual comics. Then you have crap like Batman and Robin, that has s bad acting, a bad script, and in general was just cheesy and lame.

 

[chaseter]

All I got out of this was that he thinks Robin is awesome so that = lame

 

[knowsbleed]

You know who else thought Robin was awesome?


Spiderfreddie

 

[SurfDUI]

98% o Fanbos wouldn't bust a grape in a food fight

 

[Doctor Jones]

People have made god points. But what I don't get, we get made fun of for buying action figures or maquets, dressing up as our favorite characters from a comic/show/film. But when a meat head is shirtless, body painted, gets durnk, wears a beer drinking cap and face paint with a outrageous looking hat, they don't looked down on?! Oh, yeah, I forgot, because its. Supposedly, society thinks that its the dominant media and if you don't like it, you're either feminine, homosexual, or stupid.

 

[terry78]

People have made god points. But what I don't get, we get made fun of for buying action figures or maquets, dressing up as our favorite characters from a comic/show/film. But when a meat head is shirtless, body painted, gets durnk, wears a beer drinking cap and face paint with a outrageous looking hat, they don't looked down on?! Oh, yeah, I forgot, because its. Supposedly, society thinks that its the dominant media and if you don't like it, you're either feminine, homosexual, or stupid.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Ironically, the fanatics of sports and the fanatics of say, Magic: The Gathering are pretty much the same, except for the form of entertainment.

 

[BlackLantern]

^^Pretty much...I also think a lot, not all, but a lot of fanboys don't understand that when you are adapting something to the big screen or TV you serve a lot of masters...the studio heads want to make sure that it reaches the widest audience possible, the merchandising guys want something to sell (if applicable), and if you were to make an extremely faithful to the source material version of something, it can hurt as much as help....I once read a 'manifesto' about a guy who was protesting 'Iron Man' because he felt it should have been a period piece set in Vietnam with no less than 6 suits of armor used...

 

[SurfDUI]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Ironically, the fanatics of sports and the fanatics of say, Magic: The Gathering are pretty much the same, except for the form of entertainment.

well, Sports fanatics have the upper hand, cuase there's physical activity, achievement, specticle, gettin cut and runnin a 40, some exertion.

I don't know what Magic gathering is but it sound pretty stationary.

 

[Doctor Jones]

well, Sports fanatics have the upper hand, cuase there's physical activity, achievement, specticle, gettin cut and runnin a 40, some exertion.

I don't know what Magic gathering is but it sound pretty stationary.

Yeah, but I still think it's unfair how we're paired with them. What if, just what if, when people started saying the word 'nerd' or 'nerdy', it would wind up being sports? Seriously, someone just used the word nerdy and paired it with comics and such. But what if they used it for sports? How would it be today? Damn, that would be sweet.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Ironically, the fanatics of sports and the fanatics of say, Magic: The Gathering are pretty much the same, except for the form of entertainment.

Yeah, agreed.

"We're humans, too!"

 

[larryfilmmaker]

Yeah, agreed.

"We're humans, too!"

this statement is true MOST of the time. Have you SEEN some of the people who play Magic the Gathering at 4am in the back of the 24 hour restaraunts? Whoa.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

well, Sports fanatics have the upper hand, cuase there's physical activity,

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Depends on the sport. More than half of a baseball game is guys standing around waiting. Of course it's the eternal battle between external activities and social exercises vs Individual activities and "passive" entertainment. Stamp collecting vs bird watching. Antique car collecting vs RC Racing.

But I feel the main danger to Extreme Fanboyism is to the things they theselves are fans of. You see, change is one of the catalysts of a franchise. Some changes become the accepted norm, such as Hulk's anger element, and some get the wrong end of natural selection, like Superman Red/Blue. But the fanboy is a being that is far too often intrinsically against change. And in this internet age, the resistance can often overcome before they are done many ideas that would normally have to be judged on their execution. This can lead to stagnation in the franchises and continually retreading to previous elements of the franchise rather than adding to it.

Being a fan of something shouldn't be guarding the franchises so they remain in mint condition forever. Change is what has made some of our favorite characters what they are today, and there should be changes every once in a while.

 

[larryfilmmaker]

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Being a fan of something shouldn't be guarding the franchises so they remain in mint condition forever. Change is what has made some of our favorite characters what they are today, and there should be changes every once in a while.

perfect

 

[Doctor Jones]

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Depends on the sport. More than half of a baseball game is guys standing around waiting. Of course it's the eternal battle between external activities and social exercises vs Individual activities and "passive" entertainment. Stamp collecting vs bird watching. Antique car collecting vs RC Racing.

But I feel the main danger to Extreme Fanboyism is to the things they theselves are fans of. You see, change is one of the catalysts of a franchise. Some changes become the accepted norm, such as Hulk's anger element, and some get the wrong end of natural selection, like Superman Red/Blue. But the fanboy is a being that is far too often intrinsically against change. And in this internet age, the resistance can often overcome before they are done many ideas that would normally have to be judged on their execution. This can lead to stagnation in the franchises and continually retreading to previous elements of the franchise rather than adding to it.

Being a fan of something shouldn't be guarding the franchises so they remain in mint condition forever. Change is what has made some of our favorite characters what they are today, and there should be changes every once in a while.

Yep. Most fanboys don't like change. But in the comic world, change can be good. Especiallyif it's transferred to a medium like film.

 

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Yep. Most fanboys don't like change. But in the comic world, change can be good. Especiallyif it's transferred to a medium like film.

It all depends on the quality of the film.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Does anybody think that sometimes huge nerd gatherings like cons or message boards like this one are more often than not HARMFUL to the materials said people are a fan of to begin with?

I mean, I know that being on the internet gives a lot of angry people huge balls because they face no real consequences for their actions. That's PART of the problem. Everybody has decided that their personal opinion is just as vital and informative as the opinons of the people who write the movies, comics, or whatever. Fans literally pass around boycotts and petitions to try to change the course of a movie for God's sakes!

They said Keaton would never work as Batman. They said Ledger would never work as Joker. Now, they say Robin could never fit into the current films.

Has anybody else realized that "they" (WE) don't know **** ?!?!

Literally, thousands of geeks are greatly exaggerating the strengths and weaknesses of materials with some of the most BIAS opinions I have ever seen in my life.

People are using their free time to ***** about the colors of Superman's costume. Or how about all that "Batman Begins is the greatest movie of all time" stuff? Remember THAT?! What the hell is going on? Good movie, sure. Greatest of all time? WHAT?!?!

I wouldn't care if all of this was presented as OPINION... but it's not. It's a bunch of fans suddenly wielding way too much power for their own good. The internet, the Hype, and other fan meeting places actually hold a lot of sway over the creation of new materials. It's NOT a good thing. Know why? Because the writers/directors/producers and real experts went to college, paid their dues, LEARNED their craft, and earned their spots. Now, they have to put up with the nonstop "armchair quarterbacking" from people who love a character but truly have no idea how to really write or create something great.

I don't know. I don't mean to rant. I just browse forums and read a lot of really ridiculous stuff. All the "Batman can beat anybody", the "Superman is not allowed to have a son", the "the blue should be brighter and the red should be darker", or one "fanboy" calling somebody else a "fanboy" in a derogatory way, etc.

It's not just fans being fans anymore. It's fans being spoiled, bossy brats.

That's my honest opinion. Roast me if you will but it had to be said.

This is why you really have to disregard fanbases when they say, "this will fail, this will be great, blah blah blah."

Nobody treats his or her own word like opinions anymore- for some reason, everything a fanboy says becomes fact to said person. It's pathetic, really. Most of the people who run their mouths on forums wouldn't do so in person anyway, nor do a high percentage of them know what they are talking about.

 

[knowsbleed]

Fanboys, for all their faults... are just passionate people. They love their source material and they feel the passion to express something they hold dear to their hearts. I can't really find the fault in that. Hell, some of these directors and people in the business were fanboys at one point, and my still be to an extent.

Its the people in the industry who have no idea what they are adapting and are just after a chunk of change that I don't really respect. The material they are recreating to put on the big screen might have a solid foundation that they could draw from to make it an amazing piece of moving artwork... but sometimes they choose to ignore it completely and make something that will become easily forgotten. Meh to all that...

*adds disclaimer*... in my opinion, of course.

 

[redmarvel]

If they had any real power, they might be dangerous. As it is, I find it's a lot of fun to twist the little fan boys to my own evil ends.

 

[Doctor Jones]

All fans are the same really. We're on online on blogs on message boards. Sports fans are on their stupid and pointless Fantasy Football league all the time. Someone at my lunch table can name every single player of the Buffalo Bills. I'm serious. He told them all to me. People would say, "Wow!" But if I named, say, every single Batman villain, their real names and their origins, people would call me a loser. What the hell is that? I hate it when people compare what we like, its what we like in general. Every single person is a fan in some other shape or form. It isn't always sports. Fans are passionate. And there shoudn't even be comparison when it comes to comics or sports or movies for that matter.

 

[BlackLantern]

you shut your mouth about fantasy football....j/k....as both a comic and a sports fan it's tough to strike a balance between my comic friends and my sports friends...

 

[SurfDUI]

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Depends on the sport. More than half of a baseball game is guys standing around waiting. Of course it's the eternal battle between external activities and social exercises vs Individual activities and "passive" entertainment. Stamp collecting vs bird watching. Antique car collecting vs RC Racing.

Half a baseball game isn't the point. During an NFL challenge everybody is standing around also. There's weeks of practice and sweat behind half of those guys staning around waiting.
Antique car collecting, stamp collecting and birds are all physicall and real.

All fans are the same really. We're on online on blogs on message boards. Sports fans are on their stupid and pointless Fantasy Football league all the time. Someone at my lunch table can name every single player of the Buffalo Bills.

That dude is awesome-Bills are top dogs right now

I'm serious. He told them all to me. People would say, "Wow!" But if I named, say, every single Batman villain, their real names and their origins, people would call me a loser. What the hell is that? I hate it when people compare what we like, its what we like in general. Every single person is a fan in some other shape or form. It isn't always sports. Fans are passionate. And there shoudn't even be comparison when it comes to comics or sports or movies for that matter.

I mean Ican nearly do both-name severl Batman artists and writers AND Marshawn Lynch and Lee Evans are the truth

Thing is people still see comics as juvenile entertainment, and to a larger degree MAKE BELIEVE v. reality, now sports are real, there are over the line sports guys too, but at least the form is concrete.

you shut your mouth about fantasy football....j/k....as both a comic and a sports fan it's tough to strike a balance between my comic friends and my sports friends...

Fantasy is where I draw the line

Here's one- try strikin that balance between comics, sports and race
good luck w/ it.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Half a baseball game isn't the point. During an NFL challenge everybody is standing around also. There's weeks of practice and sweat behind half of those guys staning around waiting.
Antique car collecting, stamp collecting and birds are all physicall and real.



That dude is awesome-Bills are top dogs right now



I mean Ican nearly do both-name severl Batman artists and writers AND Marshawn Lynch and Lee Evans are the truth

Thing is people still see comics as juvenile entertainment, and to a larger degree MAKE BELIEVE v. reality, now sports are real, there are over the line sports guys too, but at least the form is concrete.



Fantasy is where I draw the line

Here's one- try strikin that balance between comics, sports and race
good luck w/ it.

This is what I don't get. People just look at the subject of it. I'm talking about being a fan in general. So what if I've seen TDK five times or watched all Indiana Jones films in one day? Sports fans can buy season tickets and go to every game on Sunday for 18 weeks. And they watch football all day. 3 hour games with alot of them every Sunday. It doesn't matter what you like, you're still being a fan. Though they're two different subjects, in general, we're the same in terms of being a fan. But of course, most people can't see that.