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...why Superman's suit and cape doesn't get damaged that much? What would your explaination be?
 
bosef982 said:
...why Superman's suit and cape doesn't get damaged that much? What would your explaination be?

It is was created using a form of kryptonian fabric that can't be damaged. I would have Lois say it when she was talking to Richard:

Lois: So besides Kryptonite he is invulnerable. The suit is as well,
made from some sort of Kryptonian fabric.
 
Showtime029 said:
It is was created using a form of kryptonian fabric that can't be damaged. I would have Lois say it when she was talking to Richard:

Lois: So besides Kryptonite he is invulnerable. The suit is as well,
made from some sort of Kryptonian fabric.

so does the fabric act the same as supes, when he becomes exposed to kryptonite? Cause Lex luthor is able to stab him through it. And if the suit couldnt be damaged doesnt that kind of take away from the fact that supes is invulnerable himself? Just a question
 
bosef982 said:
...why Superman's suit and cape doesn't get damaged that much? What would your explaination be?

superman has an "aura" that surrounds his whole body that keeps him invulnerable, kinda like a forcefield constantly turned on. anything within a certain distance (millimeters, i'm sure) of his skin is then covered under this aura. therefore, the only thing that would get damaged would be his cape since it flutters way beyond the aura.

i don't think the suit is kryptonian...and if it's as "indestructible" as everyone claims, how did martha sew it together into a suit? i'm pretty sure the suit wasn't ready-made for supes by jor-el...

it would make sense that the suit is earth-based, and superman's aura is what keeps it from getting damaged. of course, exposure to kryptonite would reduce the power of his aura and would allow for things to penetrate it, which is how he is able to get stabbed by lex towards the end.

i don't even know if the movie will address this issue. but i sure hope the suit isn't kryptonian. the design, maybe...but definitely not the material.
 
dabilee01 has it right about the aura part. A lot of instances, Supes would damage his cap a lot but his suit would remain unscathed. Once on him, the suit is practically indestructible. Any force that would damage the suit would have to break his aura and would inflict pain to Supes.

However, reading the prequel comic 'Ma Kent' you'll find out the suit was Kryptonian in make. Baby Kal-el was apparently 'wrapped in' the suit while in his spaceship.

I think it would be unnecessary for the suit to have resistant abilities on its own. His aura is more than enough. Besides. Damage to the suit would dramatically show what powerful force caused that damage. It would make it a big deal if Supes got his jammies torn up because it would be as close to a scar as Supes can get.
 
DvilDog said:
so does the fabric act the same as supes, when he becomes exposed to kryptonite? Cause Lex luthor is able to stab him through it. And if the suit couldnt be damaged doesnt that kind of take away from the fact that supes is invulnerable himself? Just a question

Since it is kryptonian fabric and a type of technology it is almost alive. Kryptonite could weaken the material as well but once the exposure is over it regenerates juts like Superman. That would be my theory.
 
bosef982 said:
...why Superman's suit and cape doesn't get damaged that much? What would your explaination be?

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Singer say that they DO have a suit that was torn that Brandon would be in for a scene in the movie....
 
scorn said:
dabilee01 has it right about the aura part. A lot of instances, Supes would damage his cap a lot but his suit would remain unscathed. Once on him, the suit is practically indestructible. Any force that would damage the suit would have to break his aura and would inflict pain to Supes.

However, reading the prequel comic 'Ma Kent' you'll find out the suit was Kryptonian in make. Baby Kal-el was apparently 'wrapped in' the suit while in his spaceship.

I think it would be unnecessary for the suit to have resistant abilities on its own. His aura is more than enough. Besides. Damage to the suit would dramatically show what powerful force caused that damage. It would make it a big deal if Supes got his jammies torn up because it would be as close to a scar as Supes can get.

scorn, you're right. for some reason i kept thinking that the kryptonian material was invulnerable as well.

i take back what i said. it doesn't matter if the material is kryptonian, so long as it's not invulnerable.
 
Showtime029 said:
Since it is kryptonian fabric and a type of technology it is almost alive. Kryptonite could weaken the material as well but once the exposure is over it regenerates juts like Superman. That would be my theory.

:venom: Superman with the Venom suit! haha
 
dabilee01 said:
superman has an "aura" that surrounds his whole body that keeps him invulnerable, kinda like a forcefield constantly turned on. anything within a certain distance (millimeters, i'm sure) of his skin is then covered under this aura. therefore, the only thing that would get damaged would be his cape since it flutters way beyond the aura.

i don't think the suit is kryptonian...and if it's as "indestructible" as everyone claims, how did martha sew it together into a suit? i'm pretty sure the suit wasn't ready-made for supes by jor-el...

it would make sense that the suit is earth-based, and superman's aura is what keeps it from getting damaged. of course, exposure to kryptonite would reduce the power of his aura and would allow for things to penetrate it, which is how he is able to get stabbed by lex towards the end.

i don't even know if the movie will address this issue. but i sure hope the suit isn't kryptonian. the design, maybe...but definitely not the material.
there's no"Aura" they dropped that in the comics years ago. in the movies, the suit is kryptonian.
 
Doesnt' the Flash ahve an Aura? Or did that get dropped during the Ininite Crisis?
 
What is this aura people are talking about? Superman is invulnerable on a molecular level. It has nothing to do with an invisible aura.

Also, in Superman the Movie, you can clearly see the fabric in with baby Kal-El, and also it is mentioned in the comics that the suit is Kryptonian.
 
The Aura explanation was given during the Reign of the Supermen arc. They were explaining to Superboy, the clone of Superman, that they had duplicated the aura as well as they could, but that it wasn't exact because of their lack of knowledge of Kryptonian biology. That's why Superboy had tactile telekinesis. For example, bullets didn't bounce off of him. He, in essence, moved them off of him as soon as they touched him. Same with flying. He was pushing against the earth, and since it was too big for him to move, he moved in the opposite direction that he was pushing. Okay, sorry. Got off subject there.
 
Shamik said:
The Aura explanation was given during the Reign of the Supermen arc. They were explaining to Superboy, the clone of Superman, that they had duplicated the aura as well as they could, but that it wasn't exact because of their lack of knowledge of Kryptonian biology. That's why Superboy had tactile telekinesis. For example, bullets didn't bounce off of him. He, in essence, moved them off of him as soon as they touched him. Same with flying. He was pushing against the earth, and since it was too big for him to move, he moved in the opposite direction that he was pushing. Okay, sorry. Got off subject there.

I guess that that is just a comic writers intepretation in one comic arc. However, it certainly isn't the movie interpretation, and definately not the original interpretation of his power.
 
Yeah he has that denser molecular structure but he also has a 'bioelectric aura'. I think his molecular structure does well to explain his super strength and speed, but his aura explains his invulnerability which is actually on the molecular level as well.

JamalYIgle, they didn't drop the aura to my knowledge. In fact, it's still mentioned in All Star Superman.

Here's a quote from a book I have:

"Superman's invulnerability is the result of an invisible aura that covers his entire body. This force field, generated by his solar-irradiated cells, makes his skin nearly impenetrable."

In All Star Superman, Superman develops the power to manipulate and extend his bioelectric aura making him three times stronger. Really cool.
 
actually (not the movies have to concern themselves with current comicdom continuity(ie organic webs and vampire strength minus weaknesses--batmans origins))

but superman is invulnerable on a molecular level(note his hair in superman IV)

also the bio electric field which is believed to be the source of his flight also personifies itself as a very thin layer(maybe 3 milimetres) of protective energy over his flesh(hair included)
hence his suit is also bullet proof whereas his cape isn't

now the recent (in continuity) series titled Superman BirthRight has his little ship and the blanket fabric provided by his father as being made of a material that is very advanced and as dense as his own molecular structure...

he using his heatvision help his mother make a suit out of it
(i wouln't think a radioactive rock would affect it thus so imo that's bull ****)


my take..
it's just fabric and his arua protects it...and his cape can have bullet holes and be torn...it's very dramtic.
 
Marvin said:
my take..
it's just fabric and his arua protects it...and his cape can have bullet holes and be torn...it's very dramtic.


But the suit definately is Kryptonian, that's a fact. So I think that implies the suit has it's own power.
 
matthooper said:
But the suit definately is Kryptonian, that's a fact. So I think that implies the suit has it's own power.

I don't know how you can imply that. It's fabric and in no sense has living cells so the Sun can't really do much to make it stronger. Not everything Kryptonian is super. haha.
 
scorn said:
Yeah he has that denser molecular structure but he also has a 'bioelectric aura'. I think his molecular structure does well to explain his super strength and speed, but his aura explains his invulnerability which is actually on the molecular level as well.

JamalYIgle, they didn't drop the aura to my knowledge. In fact, it's still mentioned in All Star Superman.

Here's a quote from a book I have:

"Superman's invulnerability is the result of an invisible aura that covers his entire body. This force field, generated by his solar-irradiated cells, makes his skin nearly impenetrable."

In All Star Superman, Superman develops the power to manipulate and extend his bioelectric aura making him three times stronger. Really cool.
No Offense Scorn, but I work for DC. I think I'd know. All Star Superman is different from the main books. No Aura.
or to get specific form the DC encylopedia:

His Kryptonian physiology absorbs immense energy form Earth's yellow sun, enabling him to fly at incredible speeds, and endowing him with Superstrength, Invulnerability(His only weeknesses are green Kryptonite and magic)Ultra acute hearing, freezing breath, immense lung capacity and a range of vision including X ray vision(He can see through anything except lead0 and heat vision.
 
matthooper said:
But the suit definately is Kryptonian, that's a fact. So I think that implies the suit has it's own power.

if it was a kryptonian glass of water, would it be able to fly?

if it was a krytonian pencil would it have heat vision?


I'll admit that the fabric may or may not be normal...but it doesn't have living cells that soak up solar radiation and make it invulnerable...

logistically, it's a plot weakness.
it's redundant!
why make superman invulnerable at all if all he needs his supersuit?
 
I always hated that aura thing anyways.......it seemed so stupid to me, ya know? I mean.....he's just ****in strong. That's it......no more explaining needed.

Scorn, ALL STAR SUPERMAN is out of continuity......so in many ways......that book doesn't count for much in the Superman mythos.

I'm wondering this though.....the suit is made of Kryptonian fabric....where'd he get the fabric from? The Fortress?
 
I think giving him a supersuit isn't exactly a plot weakness, but a tool for Superman.

I mean, if his costume would get ripped for anything, running through fire...getting hit with bullets......that stuff......his costume would be ripped more than half the time. Making the fabric stronger would only mean that his costume can handle the abuse Superman can withstand....and that's a good idea.

I think making the suit stronger, and explaining why it doesn't get ripped all the time with the crap Superman goes through.....I think that's what led to the whole "aura" thing.
 
scorn said:
I don't know how you can imply that. It's fabric and in no sense has living cells so the Sun can't really do much to make it stronger. Not everything Kryptonian is super. haha.

In Superboy The Spectacular #1 the suit was not made yet and Pa Kent was shooting the fabric and trying to destroy it (just to see how strong it was). It survived a fire on it's own. Only Clark could burn the thread with his heat vision. It was impervious to everything.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
I'm wondering this though.....the suit is made of Kryptonian fabric....where'd he get the fabric from? The Fortress?

It was with him in the spaceship when he was a baby. He was wrapped in it by his Kryptonian parents before they sent him to earth. You can see it in the comics as well as the Superman : The Movie.
 

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