Aronofsky's "mother!" (Jennifer Lawrence, Javier Bardem)

[Kane52630]

Nicky Barkla

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[tzarinna]

I actually really enjoyed this. I'm glad I didn't listen all the negative reviews.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Deck Rickard]

This film was... strange. Aronofksy, whether he realized it or not, really tried to be David Lynch here, but the end result was more like a mashup of Zack Snyder and Rob Zombie. I was able to follow the themes and all that; Bardem is “God”, JLaw is “Mother Earth”, Harris and Pfieffer are “Adam and Eve”, etc., and most of it made sense as an allegory. But I don’t know... I think between this and the abysmal Noah, Darren should go back to more personal dramas and give up on the Biblical stuff for a while. I look at some of his early work like Pi and Requiem for a Dream and that all feels amazing compared to this, which was just an exercise in pretentiousness.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I love basically all of Aronofsky's movies, but I didn't like this. I got the symbolism, the message, etc. But, this movie was just hard to watch. Not something I will ever be in the mood to watch again.

 

[green]

I loved this film as much at home as I did in the theatre, there's a lot of things that work together really well in it. The camera work is fantastic.

 

[harlequinade]

I thought the film was a mess not worthy of all the hyperbolic praise or trashing it received. Aronofsky is a wonderful director but he is not a good writer. His best movies are the ones he didn't write.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Yeah, bouncing his ideas off another writer might have helped this. I'm buying the Blu-Ray for Pfeiffer only, as overall it just wasn't for me. I can certainly appreciate it from a technical and acting perspective, but thats about it.

 

[Deck Rickard]

One thing I will say is that this movie was a really interesting way to do a film almost entirely from one character’s perspective. The camera follows Lawrence’s every move. I think the next time some director wants to do a first person style film, they should follow Darren’s model here as opposed to the ridiculous format employed in films like Hardcore Henry and Kill Switch.

 

[harlequinade]

One thing I will say is that this movie was a really interesting way to do a film almost entirely from one character’s perspective. The camera follows Lawrence’s every move. I think the next time some director wants to do a first person style film, they should follow Darren’s model here as opposed to the ridiculous format employed in films like Hardcore Henry and Kill Switch.

Unfortunately this is not what happens, not entirely and this is what kills the film even more for me.

Spoiler

In Black Swan everything was subjective, here we are left alone with Bardem and then the new chick in the ending. It completely messes up POV/subjective thing.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Unfortunately this is not what happens, not entirely and this is what kills the film even more for me.

Spoiler

In Black Swan everything was subjective, here we are left alone with Bardem and then the new chick in the ending. It completely messes up POV/subjective thing.

I mean, you're right but that's kind of necessary to help the audience understand the ending. Otherwise, to pull off the subjective perspective in its entirety, you would have had to remove the introductory sequence entirely and the outro.

 

[harlequinade]

It made Razzie longlist in multiple categories

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Ridiculous.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can see it. I think this movie certainly strives for more than most movies that deserve a Razzie nomination, but at the same time, this movie's reputation is bad. This movie was hated by most people who saw it, so it was bound to get mentions at the Razzies as they tend to nominate the most hated movies in a given year.

 

[Kane52630]

Eh whatever, they always go after movies that made news.

 

[Naked Shia]

Such a special movie. It's one of those movies that stick with you long after you've seen it. I loved it. I will definitely watch it again.

 

[Naked Shia]

I just read the synopsis spoilers and all and I definitely think pretentious is the word to use and at some point it gets amazingly heavy handed with it.

Maybe you could watch the movie before labelling it as prententious.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I saw this movie. Yeah, it's pretentious.

 

[Naked Shia]

I saw this movie. Yeah, it's pretentious.

Why would you say it's prententious?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Why would you say it's prententious?

Because the movie thinks it is better than it is. It's clear what Aronoksy is going for and he thinks he is making, but the film ultimately the movie didn't succeed in conveying that message the way he wanted. Which would be the definition of pretentious.

pre·ten·tious
pr??ten(t)SH?s/Submit
adjective
attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

 

[Naked Shia]

Because the movie thinks it is better than it is. It's clear what Aronoksy is going for and he thinks he is making, but the film ultimately the movie didn't succeed in conveying that message the way he wanted. Which would be the definition of pretentious.

pre·ten·tious
pr??ten(t)SH?s/Submit
adjective
attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

but isn't thinking your opinion is a fact pretentious too? because it sure sounds like a pretentious thing to do.

 

[Schlosser85]

Do we really have to put a "IMO" disclaimer behind every opinion?

 

[Spider-Fan]

but isn't thinking your opinion is a fact pretentious too? because it sure sounds like a pretentious thing to do.

Film is experienced at a personal level. So my experience with the movie is my experience with the movie. It being my opinion is implied by the very nature of the film medium. I am not putting IMO in every post I make.

 

[Kane52630]

Such a special movie. It's one of those movies that stick with you long after you've seen it. I loved it. I will definitely watch it again.

 

[Naked Shia]

Have you seen the trailer for Can Evrenol's housewife?