Asteroid headed for earth 2029/2036

99.7 percent chance it won't happen? Sounds good to me. :)

We should work on an antimatter warhead, they say a proton of the **** could wipe out New York.

Lauch a kilo's worth at it whilst it's far away.
Uh, no...a proton of antimatter, while highly destructive, could not take out New York. Besides, would it even be called a proton? Wouldn't the subatomic units be the opposites of their matter counterparts?
 
that asteriod would get owned by some type of nuke....They prolly use anti-matter if need be. Matter can neither be created nor destroy...but it can be converted to usable energy. Plutonium somewhat converts matter but only a small percentage of it. Now anti-matter on the other is said to convert up to 100%. The U.S. has this but it would NEVER NEVER be used unless something extremely threatening to Earth was about to happen. If a piece of anti-matter the size of a golf ball could complete evaporate the United States and convert it to energy...It quiet complex. It's really scary to know that we have things like this. Gives me chills.
 
If you blow up the damn thing it will go into over 1 million smaller pieces and that could be worse, so you might as well just try and move it and if it doesn't work then at least we say we tried :D
 
Earth is f**king small people. It is tiny. The chances of an asteroid hitting it are like, whatever. If it hits we deserve to be hit by surprise. :huh:
 
that asteriod would get owned by some type of nuke....They prolly use anti-matter if need be. Matter can neither be created nor destroy...but it can be converted to usable energy. Plutonium somewhat converts matter but only a small percentage of it. Now anti-matter on the other is said to convert up to 100%. The U.S. has this but it would NEVER NEVER be used unless something extremely threatening to Earth was about to happen. If a piece of anti-matter the size of a golf ball could complete evaporate the United States and convert it to energy...It quiet complex. It's really scary to know that we have things like this. Gives me chills.

Nukes are a bad choice. Radioactive material falling into the atmosphere etc.

The best choice is to pinpoint if, IF, something is coming our way and then we try to deflect it past us, using some other technology.

Anti-matter in the US huhn? Does the UN know? Isn't that a WMD? Don't tell George.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the equation E=mc²). This is about 134 times as much energy as is obtained by nuclear fusion of the same mass of hydrogen (fusion of 1H to 4He produces about 7 MeV per nucleon, or 1.3×1015 J for 2 kg of hydrogen). This amount of energy would be released by burning 5.6 billion liters (1.5 billion US gallons) of gasoline (the combustion of one liter of gasoline in oxygen produces 3.2×107 J), or by detonating 43 million tonnes of TNT (at 4.2×106 J/kg).

Not all of that energy can be utilized by any realistic technology, because as much as 50% of energy produced in reactions between nucleons and antinucleons is carried away by neutrinos, so, for all intents and purposes, it can be considered lost.[2]
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the equation E=mc²). This is about 134 times as much energy as is obtained by nuclear fusion of the same mass of hydrogen (fusion of 1H to 4He produces about 7 MeV per nucleon, or 1.3×1015 J for 2 kg of hydrogen). This amount of energy would be released by burning 5.6 billion liters (1.5 billion US gallons) of gasoline (the combustion of one liter of gasoline in oxygen produces 3.2×107 J), or by detonating 43 million tonnes of TNT (at 4.2×106 J/kg).

Not all of that energy can be utilized by any realistic technology, because as much as 50% of energy produced in reactions between nucleons and antinucleons is carried away by neutrinos, so, for all intents and purposes, it can be considered lost.[2]

Tight kewl info...Anti-matter is really really dangerous stuff. It scares me that it actually exist on Earth. The earth could end if we screwed up. We do have it in the U.S. in a secret place that isn't known to but the President and the high powers in the military. I really dont want to know where b/c that stuff is very dangerous and I would prolly like freak if I knew where it was at.

IDK what technology would be able to deflect such a mass? Anti-matter would be my choice of action if it didn't endanger the Earth from the blast.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the equation E=mc²). This is about 134 times as much energy as is obtained by nuclear fusion of the same mass of hydrogen (fusion of 1H to 4He produces about 7 MeV per nucleon, or 1.3×1015 J for 2 kg of hydrogen). This amount of energy would be released by burning 5.6 billion liters (1.5 billion US gallons) of gasoline (the combustion of one liter of gasoline in oxygen produces 3.2×107 J), or by detonating 43 million tonnes of TNT (at 4.2×106 J/kg).

Not all of that energy can be utilized by any realistic technology, because as much as 50% of energy produced in reactions between nucleons and antinucleons is carried away by neutrinos, so, for all intents and purposes, it can be considered lost.[2]

I think antimatter will end up being what we use to power faster than light travel.
 
Well There's so little anti-matter that we have. Idk if we could use it abundantly. I think that nuclear fuel is a bit more abundant. I know that there's a unmanned small spaceship that Nasa launched a couple months ago on a mission to Pluto. This mission is supposely 18 year mission. Takes 9 years to get there and observe/collect and store it, then 9 years to return to Earth. The spacecraft is using nuclear fuel which actually get it more and more speed.
 
Well There's so little anti-matter that we have. Idk if we could use it abundantly. I think that nuclear fuel is a bit more abundant. I know that there's a unmanned small spaceship that Nasa launched a couple months ago on a mission to Pluto. This mission is supposely 18 year mission. Takes 9 years to get there and observe/collect and store it, then 9 years to return to Earth. The spacecraft is using nuclear fuel which actually get it more and more speed.

Nuclear fuel won't generate enougth to break the light barrier.

I doubt aliens will make contact until we're a faster than light culture.

We're simply too boring at the moment.
 
Nuclear fuel won't generate enougth to break the light barrier.

I doubt aliens will make contact until we're a faster than light culture.

We're simply too boring at the moment.

Well during a recent discovery on Mars in the 1990s. The Spacecraft accidentially destroyed some living alien micro-organisms that were living on the surface on the red planet. So there is evidence of life on mars, but that can only be viewed under a microscope.

As far as traveling in the galaxies beyond ours....idk if we will attain that anytime soon...if ever. Our galaxy is thought to be one of the many many many out there. It's crazy the realm of possible life outside ours. It's like we live in "SLIDERS"
 
Well during a recent discovery on Mars in the 1990s. The Spacecraft accidentially destroyed some living alien micro-organisms that were living on the surface on the red planet. So there is evidence of life on mars, but that can only be viewed under a microscope.

As far as traveling in the galaxies beyond ours....idk if we will attain that anytime soon...if ever. Our galaxy is thought to be one of the many many many out there. It's crazy the realm of possible life outside ours. It's like we live in "SLIDERS"


I think there's millions if not billions of different races in the universe.
If we turned out to be the only life filled planet out here It would be quite a waste of space.
 
yea seriously. A big waste...Idk This is kind of out there, but I view of why we will prolly not be able to get that far is b/c I believe that Those planets or dimensions could quiet possibly be where the actually "Heaven" resides...IDK It a big idea but i've heard it from other before to. IDK It would be crazy. If it were true then we will never attain to technology to reach those places b/c God wouldn't allow it. It's a kewl idea and I wish that God could come down today and answer all my "unknowns". Like : Are there real aliens that walk and talk in alien languages? Where is Heaven at? And other things. I wonder about these things at times. Eternity is also ever ever hard to grasp! I get a headacne when I try to think of life with no end....That's freaking hard to even think about! LoL
 
Time is the Issue. If we had a series of Hubble style scopes watching we could "detect" something. The energy needed would depend on the mass of the object to be moved, but a rocket could "push" the object enough to miss the earth. The biggest problem I can see is if it is a collection or group of objects, where the job becomes both more complex and dangerous.
 
I want to use this asteroid as an excuse to party and forget about doing all that 'real world' stuff like work. Hell, if we aren't gonna live forever, why stop now?
 
you guys are sooooo missing what is really going on here.... Bush, aka the devil, amde this report up... soooo, it gets people freaked out... then he increases taxes in order to increase our nuclear arsenal.... it will be called "war on interstellar objects"

if you ain't with us... your with the space rocks.....

we will then have protests outside the whitehouse saying that astriods deserve to live... that we have no right to knock this thing "off course"...

Bush will then send troops into space, and they will kidnap little asteriods.... send them to cuba... and torture them.....

then, this monster asteriod will go "missing"...... but, we will find it hiding in a crater of Jupiter.. where we will then capture it.. and ship it off to Xenu.... he will then set up a fake trial... and this asteriod will be executed with a 1000000 mile long noose......

more asteriods... teamed up with meteors. will start attacking the US... destroying skyscrappers.... the french then will state, that the US caused the asteriods aggressions towards us....

we will then summon, Bruce Willis.... and team he up with Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, and Sigorney Weaver......... they will take on France... and dscover that they are actually working for Xenu... Xenu then is found out to be John Travolta's and Tom Cruises love child....

Bush will then blow up the world, because his daddy said it was a great idea..... but before Bush does this... he will ship every rich man to the moon...
liberals will freak out... but rednecks will agree with Bush's decision.... the earth then blows up... and since Bush was to dumb to realize that the moons orbit relys on the earth gravitational pull... the moon will fly into the sun.... causing Bush to become Nuclear Man from Superman 4.....


to be continued.....
 
^ Much as it was lame, that was actually pretty amusing...
 
We need a giant catching glove.












































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Russia May Attack Asteroid That's Virtually No Threat


Russia is considering a plan to launch a spacecraft capable of moving a huge asteroid in a bid to protect Earth from an impact, but the target space rock poses virtually no threat to our planet and moving it could actually make matters worse, experts say.
American astronomer Paul Chodas, part of NASA's Near-Earth Object (NEO) Program Office, said Wednesday that claims by a top Russian space official that the asteroid Apophis would definitely crash into Earth around 2036 are inaccurate.
"That's not right," Chodas told SPACE.com. "The probability of an impact is going down

Anatoly Perminov, chief of Russia's Federal Space Agency, said today that his agency will soon hold a special meeting to discuss a potential mission to Apophis, according to Russian wire reports. Perminov spoke on the Voice of Russia radio and said experts from the United States and other nations and space agencies would be able to join the project once the details are set.
Perminov said he had heard of Apophis' threat to Earth from a scientist who had calculated that the asteroid was getting closer and would "surely collide with Earth in the 2030s," according to Russia's RIA Novosti news service.
Apophis is actually expected to fly harmlessly by Earth on April 13, 2036 and come within 18,300 miles (29,450 km) of the planet at its closest approach.
In October, Chodas and NEO office colleagues at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., announced that the odds of Apophis slamming into Earth when it swings by had dropped to a low, 1-in-250,000 chance. Those odds improved on earlier studies that predicted a 1-in-45,000 chance of an impact.
The asteroid's second near pass by Earth comes in 2068, when it has a three-in-a-million chance (or about 1-in-333,000) of endangering the planet.
Chodas told SPACE.com that Apophis will remain a top impact risk for Earth over the long term, say over the next million years. But sending a spacecraft to intentionally tweak the asteroid's orbit in the short term, when it poses little risk, carries its own dangers.
"You have the potential of increasing the impact probability with failures in the mission," Chodas said. "You could make matters worse."
An exploratory mission to study Apophis, and perhaps return a sample, could be a vital resource for any future deflection efforts, he added. Knowing the composition of an asteroid would likely play a large part in deciding exactly how to attempt to deflect its course.
Perminov did not mention the recent Apophis impact risk estimates or elaborate on exactly how a Russian spacecraft may try to move the asteroid, though he did say nuclear weapons would not play a role.
"No nuclear explosions [will be carried out], everything [will be done] on the basis of the laws of physics," RIA Novosti quoted Perminov as saying. Past studies have weighed using everything from nuclear weapons and spacecraft's gravity to rocket engines, robotic swarms and old-fashioned paint to protect Earth from space rocks.
Don Yeomans, head of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office, told SPACE.com that Russia's interest in tackling potentially threatening asteroids in general is a good sign.
"While Apophis is almost certainly not a problem, I am encouraged that the Russian science community is willing to study the various deflection options that would be available in the event of a future Earth threatening encounter by an asteroid," Yeomans said in an e-mail. "We haven't found one yet but it does make sense to study deflection options in advance."
Apophis has been a poster child of sorts for the risk near-Earth objects pose to life on our planet because of the back-and-forth over when it could strike.
"Its orbit nearly intersects the Earth's orbit," Chodas said.
At one time, early projections gave Apophis an alarming 1-in-37 chance of crashing into Earth, sparking public fears of an imminent disaster. That's about a 2.7 percent chance of an impact somewhere on Earth. Better observations of Apophis since then have allowed astronomers to refine their projections of its trajectory and quell hysteria over its hazard to Earth.
Apophis is about 900 feet (270 meters) long and larger than two football fields overall. The asteroid is massive enough to create significant devastation to a region if it ever did strike Earth. But it is not large enough to create a global catastrophe, NASA scientists have said.
Tracking Apophis has been challenging because of its orbit, which lies within the orbit of Earth with the space rock hard to spot at times. The asteroid is expected to come back within observation range of Earth (about 9 million miles) in late 2012 and early 2013.
"The additional optical and radar data taken then will almost certainly remove any possibility of an Earth collision in April 2036," Yeomans said. "To my mind it would make sense to wait until 2013, refine the orbit and in the very unlikely event that the impact probability increases, then begin planning possible deflection options."
Still, Russian space officials apparently consider Apophis a significant threat to life on Earth despite the low odds of an impact.
"People's lives are at stake. We should pay several hundred million dollars and design a system that would prevent a collision, rather than sit and wait for it to happen and kill hundreds of thousands of people," Perminov said, according to RIA Novosti
 
lol watch their meddling put it on a direct course.
 
It would be ironic if they actually pushed this thing even closer to earth.
 
http://men.msn.com/articlepm.aspx?cp-documentid=1628365&GT1=8991

The Asteroid Threat is Out There
More than 100,000 asteroids hurtle past our planet. But only one--that we know of--may hit us in the next 30 years.


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Friday the 13th of April 2029 could be a very unlucky day for planet Earth. At 4:36 am Greenwich Mean Time, a 25-million-ton, 820-ft.-wide asteroid called 99942 Apophis will slice across the orbit of the moon and barrel toward Earth at more than 28,000 mph. The huge pockmarked rock, two-thirds the size of Devils Tower in Wyoming, will pack the energy of 65,000 Hiroshima bombs -- enough to wipe out a small country or kick up an 800-ft. tsunami.
On this day, however, Apophis is not expected to live up to its namesake, the ancient Egyptian god of darkness and destruction. Scientists are 99.7 percent certain it will pass at a distance of 18,800 to 20,800 miles. In astronomical terms, 20,000 miles is a mere stone's throw, shorter than a round-trip flight from New York to Melbourne, Australia, and well inside the orbits of Earth's many geosynchronous communications satellites. For a couple of hours after dusk, people in Europe, Africa and western Asia will see what looks like a medium-bright star creeping westward through the constellation of Cancer, making Apophis the first asteroid in human history to be clearly visible to the naked eye. And then it will be gone, having vanished into the dark vastness of space. We will have dodged a cosmic bullet.
Maybe. Scientists calculate that if Apophis passes at a distance of exactly 18,893 miles, it will go through a "gravitational keyhole." This small region in space -- only about a half mile wide, or twice the diameter of the asteroid itself -- is where Earth's gravity would perturb Apophis in just the wrong way, causing it to enter an orbit seven-sixths as long as Earth's. In other words, the planet will be squarely in the crosshairs for a potentially catastrophic asteroid impact precisely seven years later, on April 13, 2036.
Radar and optical tracking during Apophis's fly-by last summer put the odds of the asteroid passing through the keyhole at about 45,000-to-1. "People have a hard time reasoning with low-probability/high-consequence risks," says Michael DeKay of the Center for Risk Perception and Communication at Carnegie Mellon University. "Some people say, 'Why bother, it's not really going to happen.' But others say that when the potential consequences are so serious, even a tiny risk is unacceptable."
Former astronaut Rusty Schweickart, now 71, knows a thing or two about objects flying through space, having been one himself during a spacewalk on the Apollo 9 mission in 1969. Through the B612 Foundation, which he co-founded in 2001, Schweickart has been prodding NASA to do something about Apophis -- and soon. "We need to act," he says. "If we blow this, it'll be criminal."
If the dice do land the wrong way in 2029, Apophis would have to be deflected by some 5000 miles to miss the Earth in 2036. Hollywood notwithstanding, that's a feat far beyond any current human technology. The fanciful mission in the 1998 movie Armageddon -- to drill a hole more than 800 ft. into an asteroid and detonate a nuclear bomb inside it -- is about as technically feasible as time travel. In reality, after April 13, 2029, there would be little we could do but plot the precise impact point and start evacuating people.
According to projections, an Apophis impact would occur somewhere along a curving 30-mile-wide swath stretching across Russia, the Pacific Ocean, Central America and on into the Atlantic. Managua, Nicaragua; San José, Costa Rica; and Caracas, Venezuela, all would be in line for near-direct hits and complete destruction. The most likely target, though, is several thousand miles off the West Coast, where Apophis would create a 5-mile-wide, 9000-ft.-deep "crater" in the water. The collapse of that transient water crater would trigger tsunamis that would hammer California with an hour-long fusillade of 50-ft. waves.
BUT DON'T EVACUATE just yet. Although we can't force Apophis to miss the Earth after 2029, we have the technology to nudge it slightly off course well before then, causing it to miss the keyhole in the first place. According to NASA, a simple 1-ton "kinetic energy impactor" spacecraft thumping into Apophis at 5000 mph would do the trick. We already have a template for such a mission: NASA's Deep Impact space probe -- named after another 1998 cosmic-collision movie -- slammed into the comet Tempel 1 in 2005 to gather data about the composition of its surface. Alternatively, an ion-drive-powered "gravity tractor" spacecraft could hover above Apophis and use its own tiny gravity to gently pull the asteroid off course.
In 2005, Schweickart urged NASA administrator Michael Griffin to start planning a mission to land a radio transponder on Apophis. Tracking data from the device would almost certainly confirm that the asteroid won't hit the keyhole in 2029, allowing everyone on Earth to breathe a collective sigh of relief. But if it didn't, there still would be time to design and launch a deflection mission, a project that Schweickart estimates could take as long as 12 years. It would need to be completed by about 2026 to allow enough time for a spacecraft's tiny nudge to take effect.
NASA, however, is taking a wait-and-see attitude. An analysis by Steven Chesley of the Near Earth Object program at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., concludes that we can safely sit tight until 2013. That's when Apophis swings by Earth in prime position for tracking by the 1000-ft.-dia. radio telescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico. This data could also rule out a keyhole hit in 2029. But if it doesn't, the transponder mission and, if necessary, a last-resort deflection mission could still be launched in time, according to Chesley. "There's no rush right now," he says. "But if it's still serious by 2014, we need to start designing real missions."
IN 1998, CONGRESS mandated NASA to find and track near-Earth asteroids at least 1 kilometer in diameter. The resulting Spaceguard Survey has detected, at last count, about 75 percent of the 1100 estimated to be out there. (Although Apophis was nearly 2500 ft. short of the size criterion, it was found serendipitously during the search process.) Thankfully, none of the giants so far discovered is a threat to Earth. "But any one of those couple of hundred we haven't found yet could be headed toward us right now," says former astronaut Tom Jones, an asteroid-search consultant for NASA and a Popular Mechanics editorial adviser. The space agency plans to expand Spaceguard to include asteroids down to 140 meters in diameter -- less than half the size of Apophis, but still big enough to do serious damage. It has already detected more than 4000 of these; NASA estimates approximately 100,000 exist.
Predicting asteroid orbits can be a messy business, as the history of tracking Apophis in its 323-day orbit demonstrates. Astronomers at Arizona's Kitt Peak National Observatory discovered the asteroid in June 2004. It was six months before additional sightings -- many made by amateurs using backyard telescopes -- triggered alarm bells at JPL, home to the Sentry asteroid-impact monitoring system, a computer that predicts the orbits of near-Earth asteroids based on astronomical observations. Sentry's impact predictions then grew more ominous by the day. On Dec. 27, 2004, the odds of a 2029 impact reached 2.7 percent -- a figure that stirred great excitement in the small world of asteroid chasers. Apophis vaulted to an unprecedented rating of 4 on the Torino Impact Hazard Scale, a 10-step, color-coded index of asteroid and comet threat levels.
But the commotion was short-lived. When previously overlooked observations were fed into the computer, it spit out reassuring news: Apophis would not hit the Earth in 2029 after all, though it wouldn't miss by much. Oh, and there was one other thing: that troublesome keyhole.
The small size of the gravitational keyhole -- just 2000 ft. in diameter -- is both a blessing and a curse. On the one hand, it wouldn't take much to nudge Apophis outside it. Calculations suggest that if we change Apophis's velocity by a mere 0.0001 mph--about 31 in. per day--in three years its orbit would be deflected by more than a mile, a piddling amount, but enough to miss the keyhole. That's easily within the capabilities of a gravity tractor or kinetic energy impactor. On the other hand, with a target so minuscule, predicting precisely where Apophis will pass in relation to the keyhole becomes, well, a hit-or-miss proposition. Current orbit projections for 2029 have a margin of error -- orbital scientists call it the error ellipse -- of about 2000 miles. As data rolls in, the error ellipse will shrink considerably. But if the keyhole stubbornly stays within it, NASA may have to reduce the ellipse to a mile or less before it knows for sure whether Apophis will hit the bull's-eye. Otherwise, a mission risks inadvertently nudging Apophis into the keyhole instead of away from it.
Can we predict Apophis's orbit to the submile level far enough in advance to launch a deflection mission? That level of forecasting accuracy would require, in addition to a transponder, a vastly more complex orbital calculation model than the one used today. It would have to include calculations for such minute effects as solar radiation, relativity and the gravitational pulls of small nearby asteroids, none of which are fully accounted for in the current model.
And then there's the wild card of asteroid orbital calculations: the Yarkovsky Effect. This small but steady force occurs when an asteroid radiates more heat from one side than the other. As an asteroid rotates away from the sun, the heat that has accumulated on its surface is shed into space, giving it a slight push in the other direction. An asteroid called 6489 Golevka, twice the size of Apophis, has been pushed about 10 miles off course by this effect in the past 15 years. How Apophis will be influenced over the next 23 years is anybody's guess. At the moment we have no clue about its spin direction or axis, or even its shape -- all necessary parameters for estimating the effect.
IF APOPHIS IS INDEED headed for the gravitational keyhole, ground observations won't be able to confirm it until at least 2021. By that time, it may be too late to do anything about it. Considering what's at stake -- Chesley estimates that an Apophis-size asteroid impact would cost $400 billion in infrastructure damage alone -- it seems prudent to start taking steps to deal with Apophis long before we know whether those steps will eventually prove necessary. When do we start? Or, alternatively, at what point do we just cross our fingers and hope it misses? When the odds are 10-to-1 against it? A thousand-to-1? A million?
When NASA does discover a potentially threatening asteroid like Apophis, it has no mandate to decide whether, when or how to take action. "We're not in the mitigation business," Chesley says. A workshop to discuss general asteroid-defense options last June was NASA's first official baby step in that direction.
If NASA eventually does get the nod -- and more important, the budget -- from Congress, the obvious first move would be a reconnaissance mission to Apophis. Schweickart estimates that "even gold-plated at JPL," a transponder-equipped gravity tractor could be launched for $250 million. Ironically, that's almost precisely the cost of making the cosmic-collision movies Armageddon and Deep Impact. If Hollywood can pony up a quarter of a billion in the name of defending our planet, why can't Congress?



There's no need to fear. By then, I will have super powers and will be able to catch it and stop it.
 
so when should I start stocking up on bottled water, toilet paper, and ramen?
 
In October, Chodas and NEO office colleagues at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., announced that the odds of Apophis slamming into Earth when it swings by had dropped to a low, 1-in-250,000 chance. Those odds improved on earlier studies that predicted a 1-in-45,000 chance of an impact.

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"Never tell me the odds!"
 
Considering we're all supposedly going to die in 2012, this little setback doesn't really matter.
 

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