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Avatar The Last Airbender (Anime or....?)

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It's tough to classify Nick's latest craze, the Asian-inspired Avatar The Last Airbender with its unique blend of beautiful fluid animation, excellent script, well-developed characters and action-packed sequences. Avatar seems to break the mold of most American cartoons in recent years by inculcating the animation style of its Japanese counterparts yet somehow remaining true to its emphasis on storyline first rather that Japan's priority on eye-pleasing art with its campy love triangles, risque comedy and somewhat over-bloodied action sequences which can drag on four three or four episodes (i.e: Naruto, Dragon Ball). Personally I find that Avatar is a successful marriage between the two styles especially since its written by two Non-Asian Americans and is animated in South Korea. What do you guys think of the show?
 
I enjoy the show animation is fantastic I do hate those dvds they make though I really want box sets.
 
The Fonz said:
I think it's boring.

As compared to....?

So far I enjoy the characters of the story, having >ahem< downloaded the entire Book 1 and latest episodes from Book 2. A lot of my friends compare Avatar to Naruto. There are some similarities in terms of the ages of the two main characters but personally I like Avatar better because its just one of those shows that you feel at ease with. The best part is that it isn't draggy, it ain't a 200+ series with no end in sight yet through excellent writing, you get an idea of the cultures and societies that make up the world of Avatar.

Toph's my fave character so far though Zuko has a special place in my heart ever since Zuko Alone
 
I found the show a little boring at the beginning as well. But thanks to the serial nature of the show, they've been able to develop some natural and organic character development, especially in regards to Zuko.

The series started to grow on me around episode 7-8, and by the end of the first season became extremly enjoyable. Even though the show takes many visual and stylistic cues from anime, I enjoy the fact that it doesn't rely so much on the kind of shortcuts anime does, which gives the show a fresh, kinetic feel to it.
 
I especially enjoy the straight-forward fight scenes. No sudden pauses or self-indulgent thought sequences that are all too common in anime. Also the fighters seem to have very accurate representations of their styles. For example Aang who is a monk has a very defensive fighting style as compared to Zuko who is definitely more aggressive with his fighting technique which is based on Northern Shaolin. Katara's fluid body movement represents Tai Chi and Earthbending's high impact blows either represent Chinese boxing, Silat, Hung Gar or a mix of the three. The fights are relatively short as compared to anime but the movements in the fights are truly something to behold, best example being the footwork shown by Aang and Zuko in the episode: Bato of The Water Tribe. Excellent stuff. Plus there are no "Secret techniques" or unstoppable hidden moves so far anyway. Keep on it guys! Its a great show even if it is more for kids
 
I'm pretty sure that the creators stated that the show is not an anime. Still pretty cool though.
 
vatar may benefit from being able to garner more discussion here than in the Misc TV section.
 
sandwraith said:
I especially enjoy the straight-forward fight scenes. No sudden pauses or self-indulgent thought sequences that are all too common in anime. Also the fighters seem to have very accurate representations of their styles. For example Aang who is a monk has a very defensive fighting style as compared to Zuko who is definitely more aggressive with his fighting technique which is based on Northern Shaolin. Katara's fluid body movement represents Tai Chi and Earthbending's high impact blows either represent Chinese boxing, Silat, Hung Gar or a mix of the three. The fights are relatively short as compared to anime but the movements in the fights are truly something to behold, best example being the footwork shown by Aang and Zuko in the episode: Bato of The Water Tribe. Excellent stuff. Plus there are no "Secret techniques" or unstoppable hidden moves so far anyway. Keep on it guys! Its a great show even if it is more for kids

The low-set stance and short, quick power thrusts of the Earthbenders definitely remind me of Hung Gar. There's definitely been a lot of work and detail put into the show.
 
Its a cross between Anime and American anitmation..its always been referred to as a "blend" of sorts by the shows creators and Nick since the begining of the show. Its rather slow at times but when it hits the action I'm always impressed.

....and I beleive they based the bending on these styles of Kung Fu

Earth Bending - Hung Gar
Water Bending - Tai Chi
Air Bending - Bagwa
Fire Bending - Northern Shaolin Kung Fu
 
deathshead2 said:
I enjoy the show animation is fantastic I do hate those dvds they make though I really want box sets.


Yea, I hated that as well...I bet once I get all the DVD's of Book 1 they'll have a Box set.:mad:

Hell, Xiaolin Showdown is getting its on DVD season box set:confused: I mean I like the show but damn why not Avatar?
 
Maybe because the season is reasonably shorter than Xiaolin Showdown. Also, XS is a WB cartoon and WB are known for making a lot of box sets: Batman, Justice League, Superfriends...etc etc. Avatar is probably Nick's first really good action series but as I said, as compared to XS season length, Avatar is much shorter. Also a difference in marketing strategies could be a reason, Nick and WB might have diff work ethics.

I'm not familiar with Bagwa, is it a variation of Shaolin or another Chinese discipline?
 
sandwraith said:
Maybe because the season is reasonably shorter than Xiaolin Showdown. Also, XS is a WB cartoon and WB are known for making a lot of box sets: Batman, Justice League, Superfriends...etc etc. Avatar is probably Nick's first really good action series but as I said, as compared to XS season length, Avatar is much shorter. Also a difference in marketing strategies could be a reason, Nick and WB might have diff work ethics.

I'm not familiar with Bagwa, is it a variation of Shaolin or another Chinese discipline?

I beleive it's a style of its own...I don't have extensive knowledge of Chinese Martial arts since I studied Japanese styles....

Bagwa uses Qigong techniques and philosophy merged with a circular style of twisting martial techniques including evasive footwork and palm changes. Open hand forms are fluid and always moving. There is little emphasis on static stance training.

Its can also be called "Circle Fighting" for example the Bagwa walk is a one of the forms taught in Bagwa. A practitioner walks in circle holding various positions and executing changes in direction through short series of movements..

On a side note, I'm very intersted in learning Bagwa in addtion to my Akido/Jujitsu but its difficult to find a place that teaches it.
 
Most Japanese styles have roots in Chinese disciplines if I'm not mistaken however I tend to note that Chinese styles tend to place a lot of emphasis on quick movements and footwork whereas Japanese styles tend to believe more in balance and calculated strikes, so they don't move as much.

I learn neither but I did have training in Silat (my country's native MA). I generally sucked at it but have always appreciated its fluid simplicity. I note that Silat is like a mix of the two theories: Fluid as Water, Solid as Rock. Low stances and Gerakkan Bunga makes it alot more difficult to master so I never really went any further than how to throw a decent punch. Out of curiousity, are there any characters in comics or otherwise that use Silat. All I know is Baraka (whom uses a style of silat which is probably fabricated). Are there any other fictional Silat masters out there?
 
The Chase just aired two nights ago and I'm quite disappointed at the lack of action though I did enjoy the episode in terms of content. Toph's presence and interaction with Iroh was enjoyable to watch and the fight between Zuko and Azula, though brief, was rather entertaining, revealing just how big the gap between them is. However the episode raises some questions when Zuko is concerned:

-In Zuko Alone and The Blue Spirit, Zuko appears to be skilled in the Dual broadswords and so far is the only Firebender to use weapons while bending. However in his fight with Azula, Zuko chose not to fight with the blades that he is proficient with, which could very well have been his edge over his sister. Why?

-Zuko's goals seems blurred. In this episode, he still seems fixated on capturing Aang in hopes of restoring his place in the Fire Nation. However in previous episodes he seems to have given up on this aim. Did he simply want to get in Azula's way?

Also, in a synopsis provided by Wiki, Toph will be absent from the cast list after the next episode leaving me to wonder why. Toph seems likable to me. I only hope this is temporary. Speaking of which, why is there such a big gap between episodes for Avatar?
 
if someone could help me-I need pics of this character.
 
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sandwraith said:
Speaking of which, why is there such a big gap between episodes for Avatar?


Cause Nick is stupid :o they do the same thing with Danny Phantom:mad: :down
 
I love this show, it's beautifully animated and has such a rich and entertaining story!
 
THE TOP 5 REASONS TO LOVE AVATAR

5. Avatar is by far one of the best genre-hybrids I've ever seen; combining the best elements of Japanese and American animation.

4. The show makes it a point NOT to involve itself with one-dimensional characters. All the characters have two sides and even the "villains" of the show have a human side.

3. The fight scenes, although brief by anime standards, are always innovative and cool. The characters rarely ever repeat moves and the unique fighting styles are always apparent even across geography and the shows two seasons.

2. The art is a testimony itself of the shows aesthetic value, fluidly blending a gorgeous pallette of colors.

1. The thing I love, more than anything, is that the show has such a great since of humor. Even in the face of impending doom the characters always have a joke to tell.
 
Quiet-Storm said:
THE TOP 5 REASONS TO LOVE AVATAR

5. Avatar is by far one of the best genre-hybrids I've ever seen; combining the best elements of Japanese and American animation.

4. The show makes it a point NOT to involve itself with one-dimensional characters. All the characters have two sides and even the "villains" of the show have a human side.

3. The fight scenes, although brief by anime standards, are always innovative and cool. The characters rarely ever repeat moves and the unique fighting styles are always apparent even across geography and the shows two seasons.

2. The art is a testimony itself of the shows aesthetic value, fluidly blending a gorgeous pallette of colors.

1. The thing I love, more than anything, is that the show has such a great since of humor. Even in the face of impending doom the characters always have a joke to tell.

Without resprting to annoying chibi character crazyness.
 
Avatar and Danny Phantom are the only reasons I look at Nickelodeon.


I miss the days of "Pete and Pete" and "Are you Afraid of the Dark?"
 
Just to let you all know avitar is now coming out in a 6 disk box set this sept. YAY.
 
Great, but I'll wait for Book Two to finish first. I really don't like the big gap between episodes but Avatar is one of those shows which is worth the wait
 
I'm impressed on how good this show is. i like it alot. hopefulley this thead can be a talkback for the episodes.
 
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