Age of Ultron Avengers: Age of Ultron Fan Review Thread (Spoilers) - Part 1

You can't do anything about it, I wouldn't be shocked if it's some people just doing what everyone else is doing.

I saw the film with a few other friends day of. We all left thinking it was amazing and better than the 1st. I talked to one of my friends who checks forums and just reads stuff online. And he starts talking to me about how the movie felt overstuffed and rushed. I then joked and said I bet he's gonna want a directors cut when it's out on DVD and he said yeah.

My crowd and kids all loved it and thought it a very worthy successor to the first. We can't wait for an expanded edition either. Kind of tired of the flawed film meme especially when its applied so selectively. Their overstuffed and rushed is my densely packed and exciting.
 
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Opinions differ, and everyone is entitled to one.

At least the discussions here are civilised with no crazy haters or fanatics destroying the opinions of others just because they are different to their own.
 
Really enjoyed the movie. The part which let it down wasn't script related, but them over reaching when it came to special effects. The action in Winter Soldier was better because it was more tangible, much more real. Here it was all larger then life and didn't seem to 'connect' as well. That's really my main complaint. Can't wait to watch it again at home.
 
The part which let it down wasn't script related, but them over reaching when it came to special effects. The action in Winter Soldier was better because it was more tangible, much more real. Here it was all larger then life and didn't seem to 'connect' as well.

Might have been more tangible with less Ultrons in the final battle. The first conflict with Ultron felt more real and suspenseful.
 
Opinions differ, and everyone is entitled to one.

At least the discussions here are civilized with no crazy haters or fanatics destroying the opinions of others just because they are different to their own.

That is a great thing about this thread indeed.
 
I can't understand the complaint that this film didn't lead into Civil War. At the end of the film Cap has a new team and Tony goes away. Perfect set up. The inciting incident for the civil war should be in the film Civil War. I know they were on good terms, which was surprising, and in the next film we'll see what puts them at war. I honestly (and respectfully) don't get it.
 
I can't understand the complaint that this film didn't lead into Civil War. At the end of the film Cap has a new team and Tony goes away. Perfect set up. The inciting incident for the civil war should be in the film Civil War. I know they were on good terms, which was surprising, and in the next film we'll see what puts them at war. I honestly (and respectfully) don't get it.
Bet the events in Shield will have a lot of what sets Civil War off. I mean it's technically started on the show with the registry.
 
Bet the events in Shield will have a lot of what sets Civil War off. I mean it's technically started on the show with the registry.

The film will cover it. It won't depend on people watching the TV show. It'll be similar to how AoS went alongside TWS. My point still stands, CW has been set up just fine.
 
I can't understand the complaint that this film didn't lead into Civil War. At the end of the film Cap has a new team and Tony goes away. Perfect set up. The inciting incident for the civil war should be in the film Civil War. I know they were on good terms, which was surprising, and in the next film we'll see what puts them at war. I honestly (and respectfully) don't get it.

Right there with you. On top of it, many complain that the film has too much setting up of future films while others complain it doesn't do enough to setup Civil War.
 
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Birth. Movies. Death. had a nice editorial on the characters in Age of Ultron that I enjoyed reading.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/05...-the-character-arcs-of-avengers-age-of-ultron

Thanks for this. Ended up finding one of the better all around reviews for the film from this link. Both are good reads.

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/avengers-age-of-ultron-2015

The highlight of that review is this little bit at the end..

It would be silly to position Marvel or Whedon or their fan army as underdogs. Once a niche genre, superhero films are now practically the official culture of the United States, and this entry will make a fortune no matter what anyone says about it. Still, I hope that even as people buy tickets out of habit, they'll see that there is, in fact, art happening on the screen, maybe for the first time since Marvel's march through American cinema started. "Age of Ultron" proves that a movie with stealth fighter jets, levitating cities and Hulk-on-robot fisticuffs can be as freewheeling as a no-budget indie. It's a shame to think that this film will be dog-piled for its imperfections rather than applauded for trying to prove that a seemingly inflexible genre can bend into strange and surprising shapes.
 
I can't understand the complaint that this film didn't lead into Civil War. At the end of the film Cap has a new team and Tony goes away. Perfect set up. The inciting incident for the civil war should be in the film Civil War. I know they were on good terms, which was surprising, and in the next film we'll see what puts them at war. I honestly (and respectfully) don't get it.

I'm under the assumption that it's the events in AoU that calls upon the government to step in and do something. And given that Tony is the one that started the whole mess that they'd look to find a way to use him to support their idea aka the registration act.
 
i was very excited about this movie and it delivered big time. i was never bored, it was fun to watch. the tone was good, action was great and characters were nicely developed.
at the end i went out completely satisfied wanting to see the movie again.
i also liked ultron and vision and their conversation at the end.
the only thing i dont understand, if the movie was originally over 3 hors long, why they didnt show it like that. LotR was that long in cinemas and it didnt have any problems.
 
Just got back (first week of release in China). My main thought is that while the movie excelled from moment to moment in ways that most other comic book movies simply do not, ultimately the story ended up being pretty weak, and the movie hasn't left the most positive impression on me. I'm not sure I'll bother watching it again in theatres, which surprises me considering the number of times I did the first movie.

My thoughts:

-The opening was exciting and fun, but some of the cg was iffy.
-Quicksilver's first appearance with Hawkeye was effectively tense.
-LOVED the party scene, especially Rhodey. I could watch this kinda stuff forever.
-The dialogue throughout was great (coming from someone who finds most of the dialogue in the first movie to be groan-worthy)
-Ultron's genesis and his first confrontation with Jarvis was very eerie and captivating, but unfortunately he didn't affect the characters in interesting ways. His philosophy, goals, his animosity towards Stark, etc, ultimately didn't mean much for the overall story. Tony didn't have enough character stuff going on considering the villain they're facing.
-What the Avengers are disagreeing over isn't explored enough or intertwined enough with the plot, and it's resolved by convenience.
-A lot of the character stuff (including most of the visions) felt underdeveloped and tangental to the core story instead of adding to it, so I sort of wish they just cut a lot of it out entirely.
-Iron Man vs Hulk was fun but also felt out of nowhere and sort of pointless afterward beyond Banner's individual story.
-Cap vs Ultron was awesome.
-All the performances and portrayals of characters were great actually.
-I like how the story slowed down in the middle at the farm, though I think there was one scene too many of Hawkeye and his wife.
-The stuff with Klaw and Thor's cave adventure felt pointless.
-Vision's place in the story was bizarre, and the character was too underdeveloped to deserve the lines and screen-time they give him towards the end (same problem I have with Hawkeye in the first). Sometimes he looked amazing (during action scenes and his final scene with Ultron), and other times it looked like Paul Bettany wearing a cheap costume.
-As cool as it was to have a set-piece on a flying island, it felt out of nowhere, unearned, and not really fitting for a villain who was built up as having access to the world's digital network, nuclear launch codes, etc. The overall situation of the Avengers in a city battling an army felt a bit tired too. Not paced quite as well as the first.
-All the action was really unbelievably fun though, and that just makes the whole movie worth it. Too many great moments to count.
-Quicksilver's death was great and emotional, even if it was spoiled for me.
-Sad Hulk in the jet was hilarious.
-Tony leaving felt random and underdeveloped. (Did this have to do with RDJ's contracts?)
-The final line being cut off felt out of place in a movie that revelled in its comic roots.
-Weak after credits scene.

7/10 for me.

For the record I loved the first Avengers on first couple viewings, but it quickly lost its lustre, and now I find it to be pretty unbearable, mostly because of the cutesy tone and the tv level cinematography at times. With AOU, I think it'll hold up better for me than the first, mostly because I think it avoids those gripes I have with the first.
 
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Just got back (first week of release in China). My main thought is that while the movie excelled from moment to moment in ways that most other comic book movies simply do not, ultimately the story ended up being pretty weak, and the movie hasn't left the most positive impression on me. I'm not sure I'll bother watching it again in theatres, which surprises me considering the number of times I did the first movie.

My thoughts:

-The opening was exciting and fun, but some of the cg was iffy.
-Quicksilver's first appearance with Hawkeye was effectively tense.
-LOVED the party scene, especially Rhodey. I could watch this kinda stuff forever.
-The dialogue throughout was great (coming from someone who finds most of the dialogue in the first movie to be groan-worthy)
-Ultron's genesis and his first confrontation with Jarvis was very eerie and captivating, but unfortunately he didn't affect the characters in interesting ways. His philosophy, goals, his animosity towards Stark, etc, ultimately didn't mean much for the overall story. Tony didn't have enough character stuff going on considering the villain they're facing.
-What the Avengers are disagreeing over isn't explored enough or intertwined enough with the plot, and it's resolved by convenience.
-A lot of the character stuff (including most of the visions) felt underdeveloped and tangental to the core story instead of adding to it, so I sort of wish they just cut a lot of it out entirely.
-Iron Man vs Hulk was fun but also felt out of nowhere and sort of pointless afterward beyond Banner's individual story.
-Cap vs Ultron was awesome.
-All the performances and portrayals of characters were great actually.
-I like how the story slowed down in the middle at the farm, though I think there was one scene too many of Hawkeye and his wife.
-The stuff with Klaw and Thor's cave adventure felt pointless.
-Vision's place in the story was bizarre, and the character was too underdeveloped to deserve the lines and screen-time they give him towards the end (same problem I have with Hawkeye in the first). Sometimes he looked amazing (during action scenes and his final scene with Ultron), and other times it looked like Paul Bettany wearing a cheap costume.
-As cool as it was to have a set-piece on a flying island, it felt out of nowhere, unearned, and not really fitting for a villain who was built up as having access to the world's digital network, nuclear launch codes, etc. The overall situation of the Avengers in a city battling an army felt a bit tired too. Not paced quite as well as the first.
-All the action was really fun though. Too many great moments to count.
-Quicksilver's death was great and emotional, even if it was spoiled for me.
-Sad Hulk in the jet was hilarious.
-Tony leaving felt random and underdeveloped. (Did this have to do with RDJ's contracts?)
-The final line being cut off felt out of place in a movie that revelled in its comic roots.
-Weak after credits scene.

3/5 - 3.5/5 for me.

For the record I loved the first Avengers on first couple viewings, but it quickly lost its lustre, and now I find it to be pretty unbearable, mostly because of the cutesy tone and the tv level cinematography at times. With AOU, I think it'll hold up better for me than the first, mostly because I think it mostly avoids those gripes I have with the first.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. How has AoU been received in China? Have the reviews been good?
 
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. How has AoU been received in China? Have the reviews been good?

No idea. Though a couple guys in my class who were big fans of the first movie said they found it really boring and almost fell asleep, which really surprised me. Absolutely everyone's seeing it though.
 
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I feel the need to say this in advance, since my review focuses a lot on the negatives: I do like this film. It's not a bad one, but I don't think it's great either. I think it's a casting change (Quicksilver) and a rewrite away from a great film. It's simply easier to talk about the bad for the most part as most of my good points don't lend themselves to much discussion. But I do address them in the end of it. So, despite the negativity, please don't get the impression I hate this film.

Age of Ultron's issues start popping up in the opening sequence. Though the fight is very well choreographed, it manages to weaken the ending to Winter Soldier and start a cringe-inducing running gag with "Language!" The film kicks off with The Avengers going after what is apparently the last HYDRA base, which feels like there's a film missing. The last appearance of HYDRA in Winter Soldier had them still as this massive organization where we have only glimpsed the tip of the iceberg. Here, however, we jump straight to HYDRA's last stand. It doesn't add anything to the film that this is their last stand instead of just another raid on a major HYDRA base and feels rushed to just get them out of the way for whatever they have planned going forward.

Rushed is a good description for most of the film up to the third act, really. Unfortunately, instead of feeling like a film that's just constantly moving (ex. The Dark Knight), it feels rushed. Ultron's creation, though a really good scene, is one of the worst cases of this. I'll go into that more when I talk about Ultron later though. Apparently an hour or more of the film was left on the cutting room floor and it really shows.

Steve I think this film handles well but there's not a whole lot to say. He's the moral center of the film, as he should be. Evans plays the part well, as always. The language joke was awful every time they went back to it. Seeds were planted for Civil War and I thought it felt natural, building on points from Winter Soldier in regards to innocent people dying (...yeah, right. We'll get to that later.) when people try to stop a war before it starts. I do have another issue with him and other characters, however I'm going to address that when talking about Tony.

I think this film attempted to do potentially interesting things with Stark but came up short. Rather than Ultron being a Frankenstein's Monster kind of situation, Stark simply switches him on. This, unfortunately, gives Stark much less to feel guilty about than the film tries to tell you. I think it would have been more effective, since we're ignoring Pym as his creator anyway, if Stark just created him. But I'll deal with Ultron more later, lots to say about him. There's one scene when Stark wants to turn on Vision that just left me baffled as to what was going on. Everyone just...started fighting. It was like:
Tony: "I want to turn on Vision!"
Banner: "No!"
Tony: "Yes!"
*Cap walks in*
Cap: "No!"
Hawkeye: "FIIIIIIIGHT!"
*Thor wanders in after a while*
Thor: "I'm gonna turn him on anyway!"
*Fight over*
I don't know why, it just started happening. And then it stopped. It didn't really accomplish anything, it didn't really add anything. Banner was needlessly involved even though he was opposing Stark moments seconds before. Maybe they were trying to do some kind of Civil War set up?

Thor...umm...was there. That's about it really. His side plot feels like an advertisement for future films. Scarlet Witch showed him the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and so he goes and wades in a kiddie pool looking for the trailer of Infinity War. While the cave sequence plays a role with Vision, I don't think it was necessary to be handled the way it was and felt like the film paused to advertise future films to the audience that likely will be there anyway. Going back to my point about the film doing a poor job following up on Winter Soldier, it also brushes over a plot point of Thor: The Dark World. Between films, Selvig is just suddenly back to normal with no explanation.

Hulk, despite being one of the breakout hits of the first, was just kind of there as well for the most part. The only notable thing with him is his relationship with Black Widow so I'll talk about that. It's awful. Every scene about it had me cringing. Ruffalo and Johansson have no romantic chemistry and their relationship is so far out of left field that even they didn't know it was happening. Johansson has said in interviews that she doesn't get that relationship and why it happened, if memory serves. She even convinced the Russos to give Widow a Hawkeye necklace in Winter Soldier to point to them having a relationship. And Widow wanting to run away with him was far too sudden, they've been dating for…2 days? 3 days? It felt out of character for her and much to quick regardless. Oh and so Fury somehow knew this was going to happen? ...kay. This just simply did not work on any level. There's also the distinct feeling with him of retreading old ground. He's not really pushed in any new directions.

There was a lot of controversy about Black Widow and, though I don't agree with it, I can see why. I like the idea of her not being able to have kids because of that program. It makes sense, it works fine. However, how it's phrased in that scene doesn't do it any favours with "You're not the only monster" coming right after a line about how she can't have kids. I can see how it'd lead people to think that was what was being referred to, though I really doubt that was the intent. It was simply a poorly executed delivery of that information. The flashes we got of her backstory were good, however I'm glad I watched Agent Carter prior as otherwise they feel a bit too brushed over. While they don't really take up any more or less time than the other visions, due to her lack of an origin-explaining solo film, the quick flashes feel too brief when it feels like there may be more to explore there. And though it wasn't the film's fault and I don't hold it against it, I'm not sure why Julie Delpy popped up there. She's a great actress but she has about three lines of dialogue and 5 seconds of screen time, I don't see why such a talented actress was needed for a nothing role. But back to Widow, I think she was serviceable her. Not really great but not bad. It felt like there was potential for her to be a lot better than she was. Winter Soldier did a better job with her.

Hawkeye was fun this time around, thankfully. Whereas he was a mind controlled puppet in the first with nothing to do, here he actually got things and Renner did a great job. He was funny (pretty sure his bit about shooting Quicksilver at the end there was the funniest part of the film) and his family was well handled. I can't say I'm overall fond of this element, however despite that it was well executed.

Scarlet Witch was probably my favourite character in this film. She was simply well handled, I thought, and Elizabeth Olsen did a great job. Loved her scene with Ultron Prime at the end, taking out his heart. Not too much to say about her though, I just really enjoyed her. :atp:

Quicksilver seems like he was good on paper. He got an arc, a funny moment or two. Could have been a good character. Unfortunately, they hired Aaron Taylor Johnson for the part. ATJ has the charisma of a cardboard cutout in this role, much like Godzilla.

Maybe I would have liked Vision more had he not been hyped up for me. As is though, he was fine. He was...there. That's really about it. He had a really good moment with the last Ultron drone at the end, the makeup and effects on him were good, but overall he's just fine. I don't know, maybe it's just because of all the hype for him, but he was just fine to me.

Ultron...oh god where to begin. Ultron, sadly, joins the ranks of Marvel's mediocre villains. They cast the perfect actor for him, however they don't really do anything interesting with him. The scene where Ultron turns on and is confused is pretty well handled. He's scared, trying to figure out what's going on. It was a good scene. Unfortunately, it does feel too rushed. In this scene he almost instantly jumps from a quest for peace as programmed and quickly just jumping to "must exterminate Avengers so humanity can evolve" with no progression. Later in the film, he jumps again with no progression from the previous motivation to "must cause extinction-level event so humanity can evolve." It just doesn't give you enough time to understand him. It tries to make him childish and I'll touch on what I think is the intent with that later but they do nothing with it. The film tries to imply Stark imprinted on him and that's why he shares elements of Stark's personality, however Stark doesn't even interact with him prior to him going rogue. As I said before, they should have gone with more of a Frankenstein's monster type of situation instead of Stark pretty much just hitting the on button. It tries to make this personal with Ultron but there is no relationship with him to make it as personal as it tells you this is. And to top it all off, he's just not threatening. This surprised me the most, as the trailers made him seem like he would be and they cast someone who could easily pull that off. But in the film, he's not in the slightest. He's ineffective, constantly getting beaten at every turn and he never seems like a threat to the team or the world. Even his CGI is often spotty (on the Prime form) and the lip sink off. Ultron is a massive missed opportunity.

Fury being in this was odd and yet another element that weakened the ending of Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier disbands SHIELD and Fury goes off into hiding, everyone thinking he's dead. Here he just pops back up again with a helicarrier and it really doesn't feel like what should have been universe-changing events from Winter Soldier had any lasting impact.

Speaking of the helicarrier, let's talk about the climax. The climax was well choreographed, as was most of the action, and overall enjoyable. However, it really did have a lack of stakes. Ultron is supposedly such a big threat, however it seems not a single person in the city dies. I kept an eye out after wondering about it and didn't see a single body. The Avengers seemed able to save everyone. This doesn't really lend itself to Ultron feeling like a threat. The only casualty of the battle was Quicksilver and that had no effect as the character was played by a plank of wood with a face drawn on it. I think it would have been more effective and dramatic to have had the Avengers unable to save everybody. Have civilians actually die and the Avengers unable to save them. I think that would have added to the climax, made Ultron feel more like a threat and had more drama than Quicksilver's death.

As I said I would talk about in the paragraph about Ultron, the film I think attempts some kind of family theme but doesn't manage to pull it off or say anything. I say this because Whedon often talked about how Ultron is child-like and it comes through in the film, even with references about how Stark is like his father. Combine this with the introduction of Hawkeye's family, the twins, the settling down talk during Cap's hallucination and Natasha not being able to have kids and I think there was some kind of point he wanted to make. However, nothing is said. They do nothing with this and the film has nothing else to say thematically so I assume this was what Whedon wanted to do with this film. It just, unfortunately, isn't fully realized. Or even partially realized. It just...is there kind of.

The cinematography, as with most Marvel movies, is too digital looking. Too polished and clean.

Despite all these complaints, I don't think that Age of Ultron is a bad film. It's fun. The action scenes are well choreographed, there's some good humour and certain scenes are really good (ex. Ultron's awakening, Scarlet Witch taking Ultron Prime's heart, Vision and Ultron at the end). It's just easier to talk about the flaws for the most part. My good points don't leave much to discuss really. As with the first, there are a lot of good ideas but they're rarely well executed. It's a shame, as I think the film is one or two drafts away from a great film. As is, it's a fun but greatly flawed film. 6.8/10
 
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I feel the need to say this in advance, since my review focuses a lot on the negatives: I do like this film. It's not a bad one, but I don't think it's great either. I think it's a casting change (Quicksilver) and a rewrite away from a great film. It's simply easier to talk about the bad for the most part as most of my good points don't lend themselves to much discussion. But I do address them in the end of it. So, despite the negativity, please don't get the impression I hate this film.

Age of Ultron's issues start popping up in the opening sequence. Though the fight is very well choreographed, it manages to weaken the ending to Winter Soldier and start a cringe-inducing running gag with "Language!" The film kicks off with The Avengers going after what is apparently the last HYDRA base, which feels like there's a film missing. The last appearance of HYDRA in Winter Soldier had them still as this massive organization where we have only glimpsed the tip of the iceberg. Here, however, we jump straight to HYDRA's last stand. It doesn't add anything to the film that this is their last stand instead of just another raid on a major HYDRA base and feels rushed to just get them out of the way for whatever they have planned going forward.

Rushed is a good description for most of the film up to the third act, really. Unfortunately, instead of feeling like a film that's just constantly moving (ex. The Dark Knight), it feels rushed. Ultron's creation, though a really good scene, is one of the worst cases of this. I'll go into that more when I talk about Ultron later though. Apparently an hour or more of the film was left on the cutting room floor and it really shows.

Steve I think this film handles well but there's not a whole lot to say. He's the moral center of the film, as he should be. Evans plays the part well, as always. The language joke was awful every time they went back to it. Seeds were planted for Civil War and I thought it felt natural, building on points from Winter Soldier in regards to innocent people dying (...yeah, right. We'll get to that later.) when people try to stop a war before it starts. I do have another issue with him and other characters, however I'm going to address that when talking about Tony.

I think this film attempted to do potentially interesting things with Stark but came up short. Rather than Ultron being a Frankenstein's Monster kind of situation, Stark simply switches him on. This, unfortunately, gives Stark much less to feel guilty about than the film tries to tell you. I think it would have been more effective, since we're ignoring Pym as his creator anyway, if Stark just created him. But I'll deal with Ultron more later, lots to say about him. There's one scene when Stark wants to turn on Vision that just left me baffled as to what was going on. Everyone just...started fighting. It was like:
Tony: "I want to turn on Vision!"
Banner: "No!"
Tony: "Yes!"
*Cap walks in*
Cap: "No!"
Hawkeye: "FIIIIIIIGHT!"
*Thor wanders in after a while*
Thor: "I'm gonna turn him on anyway!"
*Fight over*
I don't know why, it just started happening. And then it stopped. It didn't really accomplish anything, it didn't really add anything. Banner was needlessly involved even though he was opposing Stark moments seconds before. Maybe they were trying to do some kind of Civil War set up?

Thor...umm...was there. That's about it really. His side plot feels like an advertisement for future films. Scarlet Witch showed him the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and so he goes and wades in a kiddie pool looking for the trailer of Infinity War. While the cave sequence plays a role with Vision, I don't think it was necessary to be handled the way it was and felt like the film paused to advertise future films to the audience that likely will be there anyway. Going back to my point about the film doing a poor job following up on Winter Soldier, it also brushes over a plot point of Thor: The Dark World. Between films, Selvig is just suddenly back to normal with no explanation.

Hulk, despite being one of the breakout hits of the first, was just kind of there as well for the most part. The only notable thing with him is his relationship with Black Widow so I'll talk about that. It's awful. Every scene about it had me cringing. Ruffalo and Johansson have no romantic chemistry and their relationship is so far out of left field that even they didn't know it was happening. Johansson has said in interviews that she doesn't get that relationship and why it happened, if memory serves. She even convinced the Russos to give Widow a Hawkeye necklace in Winter Soldier to point to them having a relationship. And Widow wanting to run away with him was far too sudden, they've been dating for…2 days? 3 days? It felt out of character for her and much to quick regardless. Oh and so Fury somehow knew this was going to happen? ...kay. This just simply did not work on any level. There's also the distinct feeling with him of retreading old ground. He's not really pushed in any new directions.

There was a lot of controversy about Black Widow and, though I don't agree with it, I can see why. I like the idea of her not being able to have kids because of that program. It makes sense, it works fine. However, how it's phrased in that scene doesn't do it any favours with "You're not the only monster" coming right after a line about how she can't have kids. I can see how it'd lead people to think that was what was being referred to, though I really doubt that was the intent. It was simply a poorly executed delivery of that information. The flashes we got of her backstory were good, however I'm glad I watched Agent Carter prior as otherwise they feel a bit too brushed over. While they don't really take up any more or less time than the other visions, due to her lack of an origin-explaining solo film, the quick flashes feel too brief when it feels like there may be more to explore there. And though it wasn't the film's fault and I don't hold it against it, I'm not sure why Julie Delpy popped up there. She's a great actress but she has about three lines of dialogue and 5 seconds of screen time, I don't see why such a talented actress was needed for a nothing role. But back to Widow, I think she was serviceable her. Not really great but not bad. It felt like there was potential for her to be a lot better than she was. Winter Soldier did a better job with her.

Hawkeye was fun this time around, thankfully. Whereas he was a mind controlled puppet in the first with nothing to do, here he actually got things and Renner did a great job. He was funny (pretty sure his bit about shooting Quicksilver at the end there was the funniest part of the film) and his family was well handled. I can't say I'm overall fond of this element, however despite that it was well executed.

Scarlet Witch was probably my favourite character in this film. She was simply well handled, I thought, and Elizabeth Olsen did a great job. Loved her scene with Ultron Prime at the end, taking out his heart. Not too much to say about her though, I just really enjoyed her. :atp:

Quicksilver seems like he was good on paper. He got an arc, a funny moment or two. Could have been a good character. Unfortunately, they hired Aaron Taylor Johnson for the part. ATJ has the charisma of a cardboard cutout in this role, much like Godzilla.

Maybe I would have liked Vision more had he not been hyped up for me. As is though, he was fine. He was...there. That's really about it. He had a really good moment with the last Ultron drone at the end, the makeup and effects on him were good, but overall he's just fine. I don't know, maybe it's just because of all the hype for him, but he was just fine to me.

Ultron...oh god where to begin. Ultron, sadly, joins the ranks of Marvel's mediocre villains. They cast the perfect actor for him, however they don't really do anything interesting with him. The scene where Ultron turns on and is confused is pretty well handled. He's scared, trying to figure out what's going on. It was a good scene. Unfortunately, it does feel too rushed. In this scene he almost instantly jumps from a quest for peace as programmed and quickly just jumping to "must exterminate Avengers so humanity can evolve" with no progression. Later in the film, he jumps again with no progression from the previous motivation to "must cause extinction-level event so humanity can evolve." It just doesn't give you enough time to understand him. It tries to make him childish and I'll touch on what I think is the intent with that later but they do nothing with it. The film tries to imply Stark imprinted on him and that's why he shares elements of Stark's personality, however Stark doesn't even interact with him prior to him going rogue. As I said before, they should have gone with more of a Frankenstein's monster type of situation instead of Stark pretty much just hitting the on button. It tries to make this personal with Ultron but there is no relationship with him to make it as personal as it tells you this is. And to top it all off, he's just not threatening. This surprised me the most, as the trailers made him seem like he would be and they cast someone who could easily pull that off. But in the film, he's not in the slightest. He's ineffective, constantly getting beaten at every turn and he never seems like a threat to the team or the world. Even his CGI is often spotty (on the Prime form) and the lip sink off. Ultron is a massive missed opportunity.

Fury being in this was odd and yet another element that weakened the ending of Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier disbands SHIELD and Fury goes off into hiding, everyone thinking he's dead. Here he just pops back up again with a helicarrier and it really doesn't feel like what should have been universe-changing events from Winter Soldier had any lasting impact.

Speaking of the helicarrier, let's talk about the climax. The climax was well choreographed, as was most of the action, and overall enjoyable. However, it really did have a lack of stakes. Ultron is supposedly such a big threat, however it seems not a single person in the city dies. I kept an eye out after wondering about it and didn't see a single body. The Avengers seemed able to save everyone. This doesn't really lend itself to Ultron feeling like a threat. The only casualty of the battle was Quicksilver and that had no effect as the character was played by a plank of wood with a face drawn on it. I think it would have been more effective and dramatic to have had the Avengers unable to save everybody. Have civilians actually die and the Avengers unable to save them. I think that would have added to the climax, made Ultron feel more like a threat and had more drama than Quicksilver's death.

As I said I would talk about in the paragraph about Ultron, the film I think attempts some kind of family theme but doesn't manage to pull it off or say anything. I say this because Whedon often talked about how Ultron is child-like and it comes through in the film, even with references about how Stark is like his father. Combine this with the introduction of Hawkeye's family, the twins, the settling down talk during Cap's hallucination and Natasha not being able to have kids and I think there was some kind of point he wanted to make. However, nothing is said. They do nothing with this and the film has nothing else to say thematically so I assume this was what Whedon wanted to do with this film. It just, unfortunately, isn't fully realized. Or even partially realized. It just...is there kind of.

The cinematography, as with most Marvel movies, is too digital looking. Too polished and clean.

Despite all these complaints, I don't think that Age of Ultron is a bad film. It's fun. The action scenes are well choreographed, there's some good humour and certain scenes are really good (ex. Ultron's awakening, Scarlet Witch taking Ultron Prime's heart, Vision and Ultron at the end). It's just easier to talk about the flaws for the most part. My good points don't leave much to discuss really. As with the first, there are a lot of good ideas but they're rarely well executed. It's a shame, as I think the film is one or two drafts away from a great film. As is, it's a fun but greatly flawed film. 6.8/10

Excellent review, thank you. I really liked the movie, but I agree with almost all of your criticisms. Like you, I think AoU could have been brilliant with a rewrite or two and sharper filmmaking. The potential for greatness was there.
 
i was wondering one thing if thanos is going to collect all the stones in the future movies, wouldn't that include the stone on visions head, so you guys think vision is gonna get destroyed in the process or what exactly might happen?
 
There's theories that once the stone/gem is removed Vision will revert to Ultron rinse/repeat.
 
I feel the need to say this in advance, since my review focuses a lot on the negatives: I do like this film. It's not a bad one, but I don't think it's great either. I think it's a casting change (Quicksilver) and a rewrite away from a great film. It's simply easier to talk about the bad for the most part as most of my good points don't lend themselves to much discussion. But I do address them in the end of it. So, despite the negativity, please don't get the impression I hate this film.

Age of Ultron's issues start popping up in the opening sequence. Though the fight is very well choreographed, it manages to weaken the ending to Winter Soldier and start a cringe-inducing running gag with "Language!" The film kicks off with The Avengers going after what is apparently the last HYDRA base, which feels like there's a film missing. The last appearance of HYDRA in Winter Soldier had them still as this massive organization where we have only glimpsed the tip of the iceberg. Here, however, we jump straight to HYDRA's last stand. It doesn't add anything to the film that this is their last stand instead of just another raid on a major HYDRA base and feels rushed to just get them out of the way for whatever they have planned going forward.

Rushed is a good description for most of the film up to the third act, really. Unfortunately, instead of feeling like a film that's just constantly moving (ex. The Dark Knight), it feels rushed. Ultron's creation, though a really good scene, is one of the worst cases of this. I'll go into that more when I talk about Ultron later though. Apparently an hour or more of the film was left on the cutting room floor and it really shows.

Steve I think this film handles well but there's not a whole lot to say. He's the moral center of the film, as he should be. Evans plays the part well, as always. The language joke was awful every time they went back to it. Seeds were planted for Civil War and I thought it felt natural, building on points from Winter Soldier in regards to innocent people dying (...yeah, right. We'll get to that later.) when people try to stop a war before it starts. I do have another issue with him and other characters, however I'm going to address that when talking about Tony.

I think this film attempted to do potentially interesting things with Stark but came up short. Rather than Ultron being a Frankenstein's Monster kind of situation, Stark simply switches him on. This, unfortunately, gives Stark much less to feel guilty about than the film tries to tell you. I think it would have been more effective, since we're ignoring Pym as his creator anyway, if Stark just created him. But I'll deal with Ultron more later, lots to say about him. There's one scene when Stark wants to turn on Vision that just left me baffled as to what was going on. Everyone just...started fighting. It was like:
Tony: "I want to turn on Vision!"
Banner: "No!"
Tony: "Yes!"
*Cap walks in*
Cap: "No!"
Hawkeye: "FIIIIIIIGHT!"
*Thor wanders in after a while*
Thor: "I'm gonna turn him on anyway!"
*Fight over*
I don't know why, it just started happening. And then it stopped. It didn't really accomplish anything, it didn't really add anything. Banner was needlessly involved even though he was opposing Stark moments seconds before. Maybe they were trying to do some kind of Civil War set up?

Thor...umm...was there. That's about it really. His side plot feels like an advertisement for future films. Scarlet Witch showed him the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and so he goes and wades in a kiddie pool looking for the trailer of Infinity War. While the cave sequence plays a role with Vision, I don't think it was necessary to be handled the way it was and felt like the film paused to advertise future films to the audience that likely will be there anyway. Going back to my point about the film doing a poor job following up on Winter Soldier, it also brushes over a plot point of Thor: The Dark World. Between films, Selvig is just suddenly back to normal with no explanation.

Hulk, despite being one of the breakout hits of the first, was just kind of there as well for the most part. The only notable thing with him is his relationship with Black Widow so I'll talk about that. It's awful. Every scene about it had me cringing. Ruffalo and Johansson have no romantic chemistry and their relationship is so far out of left field that even they didn't know it was happening. Johansson has said in interviews that she doesn't get that relationship and why it happened, if memory serves. She even convinced the Russos to give Widow a Hawkeye necklace in Winter Soldier to point to them having a relationship. And Widow wanting to run away with him was far too sudden, they've been dating for…2 days? 3 days? It felt out of character for her and much to quick regardless. Oh and so Fury somehow knew this was going to happen? ...kay. This just simply did not work on any level. There's also the distinct feeling with him of retreading old ground. He's not really pushed in any new directions.

There was a lot of controversy about Black Widow and, though I don't agree with it, I can see why. I like the idea of her not being able to have kids because of that program. It makes sense, it works fine. However, how it's phrased in that scene doesn't do it any favours with "You're not the only monster" coming right after a line about how she can't have kids. I can see how it'd lead people to think that was what was being referred to, though I really doubt that was the intent. It was simply a poorly executed delivery of that information. The flashes we got of her backstory were good, however I'm glad I watched Agent Carter prior as otherwise they feel a bit too brushed over. While they don't really take up any more or less time than the other visions, due to her lack of an origin-explaining solo film, the quick flashes feel too brief when it feels like there may be more to explore there. And though it wasn't the film's fault and I don't hold it against it, I'm not sure why Julie Delpy popped up there. She's a great actress but she has about three lines of dialogue and 5 seconds of screen time, I don't see why such a talented actress was needed for a nothing role. But back to Widow, I think she was serviceable her. Not really great but not bad. It felt like there was potential for her to be a lot better than she was. Winter Soldier did a better job with her.

Hawkeye was fun this time around, thankfully. Whereas he was a mind controlled puppet in the first with nothing to do, here he actually got things and Renner did a great job. He was funny (pretty sure his bit about shooting Quicksilver at the end there was the funniest part of the film) and his family was well handled. I can't say I'm overall fond of this element, however despite that it was well executed.

Scarlet Witch was probably my favourite character in this film. She was simply well handled, I thought, and Elizabeth Olsen did a great job. Loved her scene with Ultron Prime at the end, taking out his heart. Not too much to say about her though, I just really enjoyed her. :atp:

Quicksilver seems like he was good on paper. He got an arc, a funny moment or two. Could have been a good character. Unfortunately, they hired Aaron Taylor Johnson for the part. ATJ has the charisma of a cardboard cutout in this role, much like Godzilla.

Maybe I would have liked Vision more had he not been hyped up for me. As is though, he was fine. He was...there. That's really about it. He had a really good moment with the last Ultron drone at the end, the makeup and effects on him were good, but overall he's just fine. I don't know, maybe it's just because of all the hype for him, but he was just fine to me.

Ultron...oh god where to begin. Ultron, sadly, joins the ranks of Marvel's mediocre villains. They cast the perfect actor for him, however they don't really do anything interesting with him. The scene where Ultron turns on and is confused is pretty well handled. He's scared, trying to figure out what's going on. It was a good scene. Unfortunately, it does feel too rushed. In this scene he almost instantly jumps from a quest for peace as programmed and quickly just jumping to "must exterminate Avengers so humanity can evolve" with no progression. Later in the film, he jumps again with no progression from the previous motivation to "must cause extinction-level event so humanity can evolve." It just doesn't give you enough time to understand him. It tries to make him childish and I'll touch on what I think is the intent with that later but they do nothing with it. The film tries to imply Stark imprinted on him and that's why he shares elements of Stark's personality, however Stark doesn't even interact with him prior to him going rogue. As I said before, they should have gone with more of a Frankenstein's monster type of situation instead of Stark pretty much just hitting the on button. It tries to make this personal with Ultron but there is no relationship with him to make it as personal as it tells you this is. And to top it all off, he's just not threatening. This surprised me the most, as the trailers made him seem like he would be and they cast someone who could easily pull that off. But in the film, he's not in the slightest. He's ineffective, constantly getting beaten at every turn and he never seems like a threat to the team or the world. Even his CGI is often spotty (on the Prime form) and the lip sink off. Ultron is a massive missed opportunity.

Fury being in this was odd and yet another element that weakened the ending of Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier disbands SHIELD and Fury goes off into hiding, everyone thinking he's dead. Here he just pops back up again with a helicarrier and it really doesn't feel like what should have been universe-changing events from Winter Soldier had any lasting impact.

Speaking of the helicarrier, let's talk about the climax. The climax was well choreographed, as was most of the action, and overall enjoyable. However, it really did have a lack of stakes. Ultron is supposedly such a big threat, however it seems not a single person in the city dies. I kept an eye out after wondering about it and didn't see a single body. The Avengers seemed able to save everyone. This doesn't really lend itself to Ultron feeling like a threat. The only casualty of the battle was Quicksilver and that had no effect as the character was played by a plank of wood with a face drawn on it. I think it would have been more effective and dramatic to have had the Avengers unable to save everybody. Have civilians actually die and the Avengers unable to save them. I think that would have added to the climax, made Ultron feel more like a threat and had more drama than Quicksilver's death.

As I said I would talk about in the paragraph about Ultron, the film I think attempts some kind of family theme but doesn't manage to pull it off or say anything. I say this because Whedon often talked about how Ultron is child-like and it comes through in the film, even with references about how Stark is like his father. Combine this with the introduction of Hawkeye's family, the twins, the settling down talk during Cap's hallucination and Natasha not being able to have kids and I think there was some kind of point he wanted to make. However, nothing is said. They do nothing with this and the film has nothing else to say thematically so I assume this was what Whedon wanted to do with this film. It just, unfortunately, isn't fully realized. Or even partially realized. It just...is there kind of.

The cinematography, as with most Marvel movies, is too digital looking. Too polished and clean.

Despite all these complaints, I don't think that Age of Ultron is a bad film. It's fun. The action scenes are well choreographed, there's some good humour and certain scenes are really good (ex. Ultron's awakening, Scarlet Witch taking Ultron Prime's heart, Vision and Ultron at the end). It's just easier to talk about the flaws for the most part. My good points don't leave much to discuss really. As with the first, there are a lot of good ideas but they're rarely well executed. It's a shame, as I think the film is one or two drafts away from a great film. As is, it's a fun but greatly flawed film. 6.8/10

Agree with you completely. Thanks for posting such a well-written and intelligent review.
 
I feel the need to say this in advance, since my review focuses a lot on the negatives: I do like this film. It's not a bad one, but I don't think it's great either. I think it's a casting change (Quicksilver) and a rewrite away from a great film. It's simply easier to talk about the bad for the most part as most of my good points don't lend themselves to much discussion. But I do address them in the end of it. So, despite the negativity, please don't get the impression I hate this film.

Age of Ultron's issues start popping up in the opening sequence. Though the fight is very well choreographed, it manages to weaken the ending to Winter Soldier and start a cringe-inducing running gag with "Language!" The film kicks off with The Avengers going after what is apparently the last HYDRA base, which feels like there's a film missing. The last appearance of HYDRA in Winter Soldier had them still as this massive organization where we have only glimpsed the tip of the iceberg. Here, however, we jump straight to HYDRA's last stand. It doesn't add anything to the film that this is their last stand instead of just another raid on a major HYDRA base and feels rushed to just get them out of the way for whatever they have planned going forward.

Rushed is a good description for most of the film up to the third act, really. Unfortunately, instead of feeling like a film that's just constantly moving (ex. The Dark Knight), it feels rushed. Ultron's creation, though a really good scene, is one of the worst cases of this. I'll go into that more when I talk about Ultron later though. Apparently an hour or more of the film was left on the cutting room floor and it really shows.

Steve I think this film handles well but there's not a whole lot to say. He's the moral center of the film, as he should be. Evans plays the part well, as always. The language joke was awful every time they went back to it. Seeds were planted for Civil War and I thought it felt natural, building on points from Winter Soldier in regards to innocent people dying (...yeah, right. We'll get to that later.) when people try to stop a war before it starts. I do have another issue with him and other characters, however I'm going to address that when talking about Tony.

I think this film attempted to do potentially interesting things with Stark but came up short. Rather than Ultron being a Frankenstein's Monster kind of situation, Stark simply switches him on. This, unfortunately, gives Stark much less to feel guilty about than the film tries to tell you. I think it would have been more effective, since we're ignoring Pym as his creator anyway, if Stark just created him. But I'll deal with Ultron more later, lots to say about him. There's one scene when Stark wants to turn on Vision that just left me baffled as to what was going on. Everyone just...started fighting. It was like:
Tony: "I want to turn on Vision!"
Banner: "No!"
Tony: "Yes!"
*Cap walks in*
Cap: "No!"
Hawkeye: "FIIIIIIIGHT!"
*Thor wanders in after a while*
Thor: "I'm gonna turn him on anyway!"
*Fight over*
I don't know why, it just started happening. And then it stopped. It didn't really accomplish anything, it didn't really add anything. Banner was needlessly involved even though he was opposing Stark moments seconds before. Maybe they were trying to do some kind of Civil War set up?

Thor...umm...was there. That's about it really. His side plot feels like an advertisement for future films. Scarlet Witch showed him the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and so he goes and wades in a kiddie pool looking for the trailer of Infinity War. While the cave sequence plays a role with Vision, I don't think it was necessary to be handled the way it was and felt like the film paused to advertise future films to the audience that likely will be there anyway. Going back to my point about the film doing a poor job following up on Winter Soldier, it also brushes over a plot point of Thor: The Dark World. Between films, Selvig is just suddenly back to normal with no explanation.

Hulk, despite being one of the breakout hits of the first, was just kind of there as well for the most part. The only notable thing with him is his relationship with Black Widow so I'll talk about that. It's awful. Every scene about it had me cringing. Ruffalo and Johansson have no romantic chemistry and their relationship is so far out of left field that even they didn't know it was happening. Johansson has said in interviews that she doesn't get that relationship and why it happened, if memory serves. She even convinced the Russos to give Widow a Hawkeye necklace in Winter Soldier to point to them having a relationship. And Widow wanting to run away with him was far too sudden, they've been dating for…2 days? 3 days? It felt out of character for her and much to quick regardless. Oh and so Fury somehow knew this was going to happen? ...kay. This just simply did not work on any level. There's also the distinct feeling with him of retreading old ground. He's not really pushed in any new directions.

There was a lot of controversy about Black Widow and, though I don't agree with it, I can see why. I like the idea of her not being able to have kids because of that program. It makes sense, it works fine. However, how it's phrased in that scene doesn't do it any favours with "You're not the only monster" coming right after a line about how she can't have kids. I can see how it'd lead people to think that was what was being referred to, though I really doubt that was the intent. It was simply a poorly executed delivery of that information. The flashes we got of her backstory were good, however I'm glad I watched Agent Carter prior as otherwise they feel a bit too brushed over. While they don't really take up any more or less time than the other visions, due to her lack of an origin-explaining solo film, the quick flashes feel too brief when it feels like there may be more to explore there. And though it wasn't the film's fault and I don't hold it against it, I'm not sure why Julie Delpy popped up there. She's a great actress but she has about three lines of dialogue and 5 seconds of screen time, I don't see why such a talented actress was needed for a nothing role. But back to Widow, I think she was serviceable her. Not really great but not bad. It felt like there was potential for her to be a lot better than she was. Winter Soldier did a better job with her.

Hawkeye was fun this time around, thankfully. Whereas he was a mind controlled puppet in the first with nothing to do, here he actually got things and Renner did a great job. He was funny (pretty sure his bit about shooting Quicksilver at the end there was the funniest part of the film) and his family was well handled. I can't say I'm overall fond of this element, however despite that it was well executed.

Scarlet Witch was probably my favourite character in this film. She was simply well handled, I thought, and Elizabeth Olsen did a great job. Loved her scene with Ultron Prime at the end, taking out his heart. Not too much to say about her though, I just really enjoyed her. :atp:

Quicksilver seems like he was good on paper. He got an arc, a funny moment or two. Could have been a good character. Unfortunately, they hired Aaron Taylor Johnson for the part. ATJ has the charisma of a cardboard cutout in this role, much like Godzilla.

Maybe I would have liked Vision more had he not been hyped up for me. As is though, he was fine. He was...there. That's really about it. He had a really good moment with the last Ultron drone at the end, the makeup and effects on him were good, but overall he's just fine. I don't know, maybe it's just because of all the hype for him, but he was just fine to me.

Ultron...oh god where to begin. Ultron, sadly, joins the ranks of Marvel's mediocre villains. They cast the perfect actor for him, however they don't really do anything interesting with him. The scene where Ultron turns on and is confused is pretty well handled. He's scared, trying to figure out what's going on. It was a good scene. Unfortunately, it does feel too rushed. In this scene he almost instantly jumps from a quest for peace as programmed and quickly just jumping to "must exterminate Avengers so humanity can evolve" with no progression. Later in the film, he jumps again with no progression from the previous motivation to "must cause extinction-level event so humanity can evolve." It just doesn't give you enough time to understand him. It tries to make him childish and I'll touch on what I think is the intent with that later but they do nothing with it. The film tries to imply Stark imprinted on him and that's why he shares elements of Stark's personality, however Stark doesn't even interact with him prior to him going rogue. As I said before, they should have gone with more of a Frankenstein's monster type of situation instead of Stark pretty much just hitting the on button. It tries to make this personal with Ultron but there is no relationship with him to make it as personal as it tells you this is. And to top it all off, he's just not threatening. This surprised me the most, as the trailers made him seem like he would be and they cast someone who could easily pull that off. But in the film, he's not in the slightest. He's ineffective, constantly getting beaten at every turn and he never seems like a threat to the team or the world. Even his CGI is often spotty (on the Prime form) and the lip sink off. Ultron is a massive missed opportunity.

Fury being in this was odd and yet another element that weakened the ending of Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier disbands SHIELD and Fury goes off into hiding, everyone thinking he's dead. Here he just pops back up again with a helicarrier and it really doesn't feel like what should have been universe-changing events from Winter Soldier had any lasting impact.

Speaking of the helicarrier, let's talk about the climax. The climax was well choreographed, as was most of the action, and overall enjoyable. However, it really did have a lack of stakes. Ultron is supposedly such a big threat, however it seems not a single person in the city dies. I kept an eye out after wondering about it and didn't see a single body. The Avengers seemed able to save everyone. This doesn't really lend itself to Ultron feeling like a threat. The only casualty of the battle was Quicksilver and that had no effect as the character was played by a plank of wood with a face drawn on it. I think it would have been more effective and dramatic to have had the Avengers unable to save everybody. Have civilians actually die and the Avengers unable to save them. I think that would have added to the climax, made Ultron feel more like a threat and had more drama than Quicksilver's death.

As I said I would talk about in the paragraph about Ultron, the film I think attempts some kind of family theme but doesn't manage to pull it off or say anything. I say this because Whedon often talked about how Ultron is child-like and it comes through in the film, even with references about how Stark is like his father. Combine this with the introduction of Hawkeye's family, the twins, the settling down talk during Cap's hallucination and Natasha not being able to have kids and I think there was some kind of point he wanted to make. However, nothing is said. They do nothing with this and the film has nothing else to say thematically so I assume this was what Whedon wanted to do with this film. It just, unfortunately, isn't fully realized. Or even partially realized. It just...is there kind of.

The cinematography, as with most Marvel movies, is too digital looking. Too polished and clean.

Despite all these complaints, I don't think that Age of Ultron is a bad film. It's fun. The action scenes are well choreographed, there's some good humour and certain scenes are really good (ex. Ultron's awakening, Scarlet Witch taking Ultron Prime's heart, Vision and Ultron at the end). It's just easier to talk about the flaws for the most part. My good points don't leave much to discuss really. As with the first, there are a lot of good ideas but they're rarely well executed. It's a shame, as I think the film is one or two drafts away from a great film. As is, it's a fun but greatly flawed film. 6.8/10

Great review, I gave the movie a higher rating than you, but I totally agree with all of your criticisms as they are in line with mine. And like you, there was stuff I liked, but not enough to gush about it really. Such a missed opportunity, especially in regards to Ultron.
 

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